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Hinterwaeldler Eve guardians Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:36:00 - [31] The stuff drops like candy. I got 4 charred micro circuits from a single npc frig ... Originally by: Jet Collins Since you have brought this to the top and i won't get on eve for a few more hours now can people that do get in game tell me a few things. Are missions droping more materials now? Are the materials being droped perporsional to materials need to buld the rigs? Ie are more circuits being droped now? Thanks.
Raven DeBlade Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:57:00 - [32] veterans that have played the game for almost 4 years SHOULD have and edge vs newer players, why would we even bother to stay if that was not so? and tbh Veterans need MORE of that, it should be dangerous indeed to go up against a Veteran player. 40, 45, 50 or even 60M SP should count. End of story. "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
Queen Hades	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Hinterwaeldler The stuff drops like candy. I got 4 charred micro circuits from a single npc frig ... Sounds reasonable to me. One of my best friends in the game is really looking forward to producing them, he even learned to use two additional production lines before the 28th of November. Now he will be able to use them, and I will get myself a rig. CCP 4tw again. \o/
Dolly Parton Amarr 5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:10:00 - [34] Originally by: Oveur There are improvements to Salvaging coming in the patch next week, which affects the commonality of Rigs. rofl so noobs are glorified garbage men now. i ♥ it * Any comments made are mine and mine alone! *
Zolofine Obsidian Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:12:00 - [35] Seems like everyone assumes old players are rich... i wonder why that is? Some of us do not actually play this game 24/7 and have a limited tollerance to threadmilling. There is enough 'elitist' stuff in this game. There is cosmos loot, faction loot, officer loot, faction ships, TONS of things that allow you to get a clear advantage over others if your wallet allows it. Now why should rigs be another part of that? Some of us are getting kind of bored with the same old stuff and rigs/salvaging are a fresh breeze in that area. Now you're going to tell me it's just another mindnumbing threadmilling process which is about as exciting as mining, or just plain out of reach because you haven't been threadmilling the last few years? I find that notion to be rather disappointing. Which brings me to an interesting question. Howmany of the rich guys in EVE actually pvp with expensive loot/rigs/implants? I'd venture to say it's only a limited few who are either incredibly ballsy, or incredibly rich. Or you know, there are the guys who use it to run missions... err yah great, let's build a ship that cannot possibly be destroyed in the role it's doing, which is exactly the idea cause it's worth billions... errr BORING
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Raven DeBlade veterans that have played the game for almost 4 years SHOULD have and edge vs newer players, why would we even bother to stay if that was not so? and tbh Veterans need MORE of that, it should be dangerous indeed to go up against a Veteran player. 40, 45, 50 or even 60M SP should count. End of story. Practice, experience, anywhere from 5 to 50% more effectiveness in any given field, and the ability to use all kinds of high-end T2 ** isn't enough for you? Cry me a river. Rigs for everyone! ---------------------------- Originally by:** Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Mechanikus Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:18:00 - [37] I'm not really sure what your complaint is other then the fact that it has taken time to actually train the skills, I have only been playing this game for two weeks and I can already salvage ships, I have lots of components, and I'm just waiting for all the skills to go ding so I can make and use some of this stuff. It really wasn't that hard, unless your just lazy.
Oleg K77	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:39:00 - [38] Originally by: Karon Wodens Personally I'm hoping to see rigs at about 10-20% of that price... 10 to 50 million. This might actually cause frig owners to eventually buy the damned things. I expect rigs cost 1 to 5 mils (T1 of course)
Manfred Doomhammer Caldari ShadowTec Inc. Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 20:56:00 - [39] Originally by: Oleg K77 Originally by: Karon Wodens Personally I'm hoping to see rigs at about 10-20% of that price... 10 to 50 million. This might actually cause frig owners to eventually buy the damned things. I expect rigs cost 1 to 5 mils (T1 of course) doubt thats ever going to happen, cause to make a profit at that price, salvage components would have to be sold at some 3-6k / unit.. and at that price i probably shoot the looted wreacks before staying there and salvaging it.... ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:23:00 - [40] Originally by: Raven DeBlade veterans that have played the game for almost 4 years SHOULD have and edge vs newer players, why would we even bother to stay if that was not so? and tbh Veterans need MORE of that, it should be dangerous indeed to go up against a Veteran player. 40, 45, 50 or even 60M SP should count. End of story. Typical MMORPG player attitude ... i am pathetic at life, but i shot mindless bots for 4 years, so i deserve to win against everyone who only shot mindless bots for 2 years. Rigs for 10m or less, pvp loot only. Old looting system in missions.

Vil'Hem Rekrap	Posted - 2006.12.15 23:03:00 - [41] I'm one of the ones that believes prices will drop once they become more common.... ...but... I also see nothing wrong with the fact that players who've taken the time to bank some ISK can afford high priced items. A few other points to note and an option for you: 1. Rigs are meant to be rigs. Another item in the database for people to play with and stick on their ships. 2. Eve implemented rigs and created the system used to create them and use them. They didn't define prices. Players did. 3. Supply and demand is a pretty normal part of most economies. If there's high demand and low supply, prices go up. It'd be great if this weren't so, but it's a perfectly normal feature in the game of life, so seeing it in an MMO shouldn't be surprising. 4. Some other people that wanted rigs, instead of *****ing for 30 minutes in a thread, went out and farmed a little more ISK to one day get them. Self sufficient people do that when they see an obstacle. It's a good example to learn from. And finally, an option for you. Make rigs yourself and sell them cheaply. If you don't have the skills, train them. If you don't have the equipment, buy it or build it. Once you start selling rigs at a low price, other people will have to follow suit or you'll be stealing their business assuming you can keep the production going. Since this is an important issue to you, though, I'm sure you'll put in the time necessary to start taking steps toward correcting it. Then you'll be part of the solution and people will cheer and remember your name for weeks. Or you could just keep whining about it.
Vil'Hem Rekrap	Posted - 2006.12.15 23:08:00 - [42] Originally by: Mechanikus I'm not really sure what your complaint is other then the fact that it has taken time to actually train the skills, I have only been playing this game for two weeks and I can already salvage ships, I have lots of components, and I'm just waiting for all the skills to go ding so I can make and use some of this stuff. It really wasn't that hard, unless your just lazy. See? Here's one of those self-sufficient people I mentioned in my previous post...so now we both know it's possible.
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.12.15 23:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Vil'Hem Rekrap 4. Some other people that wanted rigs, instead of *****ing for 30 minutes in a thread, went out and farmed a little more ISK to one day get them. Self sufficient people do that when they see an obstacle. It's a good example to learn from. ... Or you could just keep whining about it. Maybe you dont realize that you are playing eve online. The game where you can farm ISK with 3-8 accounts and still have enough time and attention left to whine on the forums ...


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