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Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 393	Posted - 2015.08.06 14:56:05 - [1] - Quote Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates? We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive?
Freya Sertan Et Liberate Vos De Deus 630	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:01:20 - [2] - Quote Less people like you would be a fantastic start. New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face. Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8897	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:04:05 - [3] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? You could try playing the game instead of spending all day trying to come up with new stupid threads to start. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Tyrendian Biohazard Ubiquitous Hurt The WeHurt Initiative 373	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:05:50 - [4] - Quote Something something fun per hour... My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6501	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:10:40 - [5] - Quote Freya Sertan wrote: Less people like you would be a fantastic start. /thread on the first post. You win the internet. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:34:44 - [6] - Quote One less veteran is would be amazing. Please don't let the door hit them on the way out. WE should give new players 10 million SP to apply Battleships and below are obtainable within the first 2 months of playing. Welcome to the New EVE.
DaReaper Net 7 2458	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:46:35 - [7] - Quote I will bite. I'm an 11.5 year vet. There was a htread floating around, about giving people who have been here for 10 years a gift, and possibly another at 15 and 20. I think this would be a good start for some, and here is why... In the real world, shortly after i got married and quit my crappy mobile tech job, i was unemployeed for a bit. I eventually got hired on at Geek Squad for best buy. Typical retail issues, and me being blunt irl makes me not have very good customer service skills. Anyway, the job was meh, the people i worked with were awesome. About three years into it, i was getting bored. And was thinking of changing jobs (in hind sight i should of) then one of our morning meetings, it was announced that not only would 5 year best buy employees get the best buy watch, but geek squad people of five years would get a leather jacket. At the time, i was kind super into leather jackets, and i said.. well two years huh... ya i could do that. Two years later, i had my son, my watch, and my jacket. A year later i got canned. (long story) The point is, an incentive for staying, made me decide that i could hang on a bit, because, well, what the heck. I knew a couple other people who had the same idea. So, a way that might keep some people thinking 'gods, i've been here 8 years.. wtf am i doing?!?1" migh be to give a 'if you hit 10 years you get this random but cool thing! incentive. The vet station was an interesting idea, but something more useful, like a special skin, a sword for the captains quarters, an outfit or maybe a specla ship might make a few people who might want to bounce go.. well i can wait a bit... I still have the jacket and watch so meh. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
DaReaper Net 7 2458	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:49:21 - [8] - Quote In addition, ccp should restart the recall program. Esp once they have structures out. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
DaReaper Net 7 2458	Posted - 2015.08.06 15:50:26 - [9] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: One less veteran is would be amazing. Please don't let the door hit them on the way out. WE should give new players 10 million SP to apply Battleships and below are obtainable within the first 2 months of playing. Welcome to the New EVE. you can get a bs in the first 2 months of playing now. you just won;t have the support skills or know how to fly it very well. But you can pretty easily hit BS 1, and large weapons 1 in 2 months. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Krell Kroenen The Devil's Shadow 255	Posted - 2015.08.06 16:32:32 - [10] - Quote DaReaper wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: One less veteran is would be amazing. Please don't let the door hit them on the way out. WE should give new players 10 million SP to apply Battleships and below are obtainable within the first 2 months of playing. Welcome to the New EVE. you can get a bs in the first 2 months of playing now. you just won;t have the support skills or know how to fly it very well. But you can pretty easily hit BS 1, and large weapons 1 in 2 months. Why the focus on Battleships? Outside of PVE their usefulness have been carved down to just a few niches and special case uses. This is the golden age of cruiser or smaller online.

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 25525	Posted - 2015.08.06 16:35:35 - [11] - Quote Something like this would probably provide suitable retention. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 568	Posted - 2015.08.06 16:53:47 - [12] - Quote A leather jacket space cowboy style. And two blasters in holsters hanging on the wall. Also very rusty rifter skin. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24525	Posted - 2015.08.06 16:57:43 - [13] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: A leather jacket space cowboy style. And two blasters in holsters hanging on the wall. Also very rusty rifter skin. A hat, don't forget a hat to complete the ensemble. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 985	Posted - 2015.08.06 17:05:36 - [14] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: A leather jacket space cowboy style. And two blasters in holsters hanging on the wall. Also very rusty rifter skin. A hat, don't forget a hat to complete the ensemble. And a speedo. Why does everyone always forget the speedo? There are all our dominion Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8909	Posted - 2015.08.06 17:08:30 - [15] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: A leather jacket space cowboy style. And two blasters in holsters hanging on the wall. Also very rusty rifter skin. A hat, don't forget a hat to complete the ensemble. And a speedo. Why does everyone always forget the speedo? Speedo? SPEEDO? Commando with chaps. That's the real deal! Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 340	Posted - 2015.08.06 17:15:44 - [16] - Quote Freya Sertan wrote: Less people like you would be a fantastic start. Top Answer! Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24526	Posted - 2015.08.06 17:26:14 - [17] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: A leather jacket space cowboy style. And two blasters in holsters hanging on the wall. Also very rusty rifter skin. A hat, don't forget a hat to complete the ensemble. And a speedo. Why does everyone always forget the speedo? Budgie smugglers? Eww. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Kiandoshia Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2316	Posted - 2015.08.06 19:53:04 - [18] - Quote DaReaper wrote: I will bite. I'm an 11.5 year vet. There was a htread floating around, about giving people who have been here for 10 years a gift, and possibly another at 15 and 20. I think this would be a good start for some, and here is why... In the real world, shortly after i got married and quit my crappy mobile tech job, i was unemployeed for a bit. I eventually got hired on at Geek Squad for best buy. Typical retail issues, and me being blunt irl makes me not have very good customer service skills. Anyway, the job was meh, the people i worked with were awesome. About three years into it, i was getting bored. And was thinking of changing jobs (in hind sight i should of) then one of our morning meetings, it was announced that not only would 5 year best buy employees get the best buy watch, but geek squad people of five years would get a leather jacket. At the time, i was kind super into leather jackets, and i said.. well two years huh... ya i could do that. Two years later, i had my son, my watch, and my jacket. A year later i got canned. (long story) The point is, an incentive for staying, made me decide that i could hang on a bit, because, well, what the heck. I knew a couple other people who had the same idea. So, a way that might keep some people thinking 'gods, i've been here 8 years.. wtf am i doing?!?1" migh be to give a 'if you hit 10 years you get this random but cool thing! incentive. The vet station was an interesting idea, but something more useful, like a special skin, a sword for the captains quarters, an outfit or maybe a specla ship might make a few people who might want to bounce go.. well i can wait a bit... I still have the jacket and watch so meh. Oh yay, wheee. A little gift so we'll "hang on" a bit more, as if there are no other reasons to stay!
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22652	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:00:26 - [19] - Quote If we bound all of CAM's threads into a book, it would be called the "Drama Sutra". *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
DaReaper Net 7 2458	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:08:11 - [20] - Quote Kiandoshia wrote: DaReaper wrote: I will bite. I'm an 11.5 year vet. There was a htread floating around, about giving people who have been here for 10 years a gift, and possibly another at 15 and 20. I think this would be a good start for some, and here is why... In the real world, shortly after i got married and quit my crappy mobile tech job, i was unemployeed for a bit. I eventually got hired on at Geek Squad for best buy. Typical retail issues, and me being blunt irl makes me not have very good customer service skills. Anyway, the job was meh, the people i worked with were awesome. About three years into it, i was getting bored. And was thinking of changing jobs (in hind sight i should of) then one of our morning meetings, it was announced that not only would 5 year best buy employees get the best buy watch, but geek squad people of five years would get a leather jacket. At the time, i was kind super into leather jackets, and i said.. well two years huh... ya i could do that. Two years later, i had my son, my watch, and my jacket. A year later i got canned. (long story) The point is, an incentive for staying, made me decide that i could hang on a bit, because, well, what the heck. I knew a couple other people who had the same idea. So, a way that might keep some people thinking 'gods, i've been here 8 years.. wtf am i doing?!?1" migh be to give a 'if you hit 10 years you get this random but cool thing! incentive. The vet station was an interesting idea, but something more useful, like a special skin, a sword for the captains quarters, an outfit or maybe a specla ship might make a few people who might want to bounce go.. well i can wait a bit... I still have the jacket and watch so meh. Oh yay, wheee. A little gift so we'll "hang on" a bit more, as if there are no other reasons to stay! Never said other reasons to stay, but often times people get burnt out and instead of trying to find something to make the game fun for them again, they bounce. Most return later. but if a few go 'well i'll see if i can do something else, i got another year before i get the xxx' it might push some people to try and have fun again. the question was on retention, and currently i don;t have issue shaving fun, so i cna;t make any suggestion beyond a reward. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom

Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 947	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:08:13 - [21] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates? We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? The same conditions I had when I started playing would be great. I still pay my sub, but don't play as much. The conditions were: me in college with a decent scholarship, 23 years old and not a worry in my life.
DaReaper Net 7 2458	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:09:35 - [22] - Quote Kiandoshia wrote: DaReaper wrote: I will bite. I'm an 11.5 year vet. There was a htread floating around, about giving people who have been here for 10 years a gift, and possibly another at 15 and 20. I think this would be a good start for some, and here is why... In the real world, shortly after i got married and quit my crappy mobile tech job, i was unemployeed for a bit. I eventually got hired on at Geek Squad for best buy. Typical retail issues, and me being blunt irl makes me not have very good customer service skills. Anyway, the job was meh, the people i worked with were awesome. About three years into it, i was getting bored. And was thinking of changing jobs (in hind sight i should of) then one of our morning meetings, it was announced that not only would 5 year best buy employees get the best buy watch, but geek squad people of five years would get a leather jacket. At the time, i was kind super into leather jackets, and i said.. well two years huh... ya i could do that. Two years later, i had my son, my watch, and my jacket. A year later i got canned. (long story) The point is, an incentive for staying, made me decide that i could hang on a bit, because, well, what the heck. I knew a couple other people who had the same idea. So, a way that might keep some people thinking 'gods, i've been here 8 years.. wtf am i doing?!?1" migh be to give a 'if you hit 10 years you get this random but cool thing! incentive. The vet station was an interesting idea, but something more useful, like a special skin, a sword for the captains quarters, an outfit or maybe a specla ship might make a few people who might want to bounce go.. well i can wait a bit... I still have the jacket and watch so meh. Oh yay, wheee. A little gift so we'll "hang on" a bit more, as if there are no other reasons to stay! and its a CAM thread, what did you expect i was going to pull a silver bullet out my behind so he can get the credit? HA! OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22652	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:17:06 - [23] - Quote DaReaper wrote: and its a CAM thread, what did you expect i was going to pull a silver bullet out my behind so he can get the credit? HA! I kind of expected you to pinch the bridge of your nose until you looked like Owen Wilson.. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Dave Stark 7529	Posted - 2015.08.06 20:24:51 - [24] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? You could try playing the game instead of spending all day trying to come up with new stupid threads to start. Mr Epeen gotta do something while waiting out jump fatigue!
Vortexo VonBrenner Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2077	Posted - 2015.08.06 22:58:59 - [25] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates? We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? A SPECIAL MONUMENT ONLY VETS CAN SHOOT. ITT: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2388	Posted - 2015.08.06 23:29:59 - [26] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: If we bound all of CAM's threads into a book, it would be called the "Drama Sutra". Either that or 'Fifty Shades of THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DRINK WHEN PREGNANT!' Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24529	Posted - 2015.08.06 23:53:38 - [27] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: If we bound all of CAM's threads into a book, it would be called the "Drama Sutra". Either that or 'Fifty Shades of THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DRINK WHEN PREGNANT!' Drinking before pregnancy occasionally has side effects, like pregnancy. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Market McSelling Alt Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC 366	Posted - 2015.08.07 00:08:25 - [28] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: If we bound all of CAM's threads into a book, it would be called the "Drama Sutra". Either that or 'Fifty Shades of THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DRINK WHEN PREGNANT!' Well we gotta do something to turn it around. The last patch stopped the bleeding for a couple weeks, but this week was down a bit from last and the week before likewise. So looks like you can count on a slide to start again, heading into Eve's worst time of year Oct/Nov. We are going to have to get used to player averages around 15-16k pretty soon... well, that is unless CAM biomasses and logs off the forum. Best description of Eve Online and why the community is the way it is
Webvan All Kill No Skill 12179	Posted - 2015.08.07 01:09:19 - [29] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? "We"? wait what? Date of Birth: 2015-01-07 18:29. Not saying you couldn't have been around longer, but you post like you haven't. As with most mmo's, first noted by devs back in early UO (they were very transparent actually, unlike anything today), new players on avg last 3-6 months. That's not counting the many that don't go past trial. And then not everyone that does make it to the first year vet status makes it to second year vet. And in most cases when games lose vets that go beyond even that, it's when they do radical changes to the game to make it easier, to use the system to retain those new players rather than rely on happy vets to do the work of helping to retain new players, even bringing them in by one way or another (e.g. friends, reviews, assistance etc). By and large, vets don't want the game made easier for players that are not retaining long-term nor would retain, not at the cost of turning EVE into yet another dull dumb game like all the others are or have become. EVE has already had the bad boy status of being harsh and unforgiving for a very long time (apart from WiS), and long term retention of vets are of those that prefer and adapt to the harsh and unforgiving reality of the game. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Salvos Rhoska 1221	Posted - 2015.08.07 01:16:25 - [30] - Quote DaReaper wrote: I will bite. I'm an 11.5 year vet. There was a htread floating around, about giving people who have been here for 10 years a gift, and possibly another at 15 and 20. I think this would be a good start for some, and here is why... In the real world, shortly after i got married and quit my crappy mobile tech job, i was unemployeed for a bit. I eventually got hired on at Geek Squad for best buy. Typical retail issues, and me being blunt irl makes me not have very good customer service skills. Anyway, the job was meh, the people i worked with were awesome. About three years into it, i was getting bored. And was thinking of changing jobs (in hind sight i should of) then one of our morning meetings, it was announced that not only would 5 year best buy employees get the best buy watch, but geek squad people of five years would get a leather jacket. At the time, i was kind super into leather jackets, and i said.. well two years huh... ya i could do that. Two years later, i had my son, my watch, and my jacket. A year later i got canned. (long story) The point is, an incentive for staying, made me decide that i could hang on a bit, because, well, what the heck. I knew a couple other people who had the same idea. So, a way that might keep some people thinking 'gods, i've been here 8 years.. wtf am i doing?!?1" migh be to give a 'if you hit 10 years you get this random but cool thing! incentive. The vet station was an interesting idea, but something more useful, like a special skin, a sword for the captains quarters, an outfit or maybe a specla ship might make a few people who might want to bounce go.. well i can wait a bit... I still have the jacket and watch so meh. Do we have EVE copy pasta yet? We do now. ------------



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