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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
400
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Posted - 2015.08.07 01:53:37 -
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Punch them in the nuts, repeat as necessary.
If they stayed long enough to become a bitter EVE vet this is what they are looking for in their gaming.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
961
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Posted - 2015.08.07 02:00:17 -
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Sometimes I wish I still had my original character, but then I remember what a colossal douche he was.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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lord xavier
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
85
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Posted - 2015.08.07 02:14:23 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates?
We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? 1: If CCP pretended to actually listen to the members and not the terrible CSM who do nothing but give terrible agenda based advice. 2: Get rid of the CSM or change it to a 1 nullsec, 1 low sec, 1 high sec member so they can give equal views to issues. Ideally individuals involved in PVE and PVP alliances. Then, when they are done. Get rid of them. 3: If players would undock for content and not for killboard stats, retention would go higher. Part of the issues with lower rates are these terrible changes being implemented by CCP. Though, to be completely honest. It also has to do alot with the players. Large groups are so far spread out in the game. Moving assets is a complete chore of its own. Why move to have ships destroyed when you can just sit and make isk all day on alts? Why don't people undock and make fights? I mean, OP, Brave moved to Aunsou and to be completely honest. Out of all the small fleets I have taken there you guys just play docking games for an hour before we just leave and go find someone else. You have three to FIVE times the number in system we do. Yet you do not undock. YOUR alliance is part of this inactivity bug. You are not the cause for alot or it, or even 5% of it, but you are part of the problem with never undocking and playing the game. Never trying to do fleets except when it is to take a moon or asset of some kind. Never wanting to fight. Alot of alliances are this way when we do nullsec roams. A lot of players are causing this boredom just as much as CCP is creating a ****-show of localized content with far too many systems and not enough players. |
Sister MaryElephant
Stellar Conundrum
0
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Posted - 2015.08.07 03:43:45 -
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Prior active 2006-2011.
Recently returned although kept tabs on things during the time I was otherwise occupied. Kept my original guys...never sold...never bought.
A couple observations from a non-bitter pilot:
1-The term "content creation" is simply dumb. And overused. EvE has always been a sandbox....always will be. If you are bored create your own fun and excitment. Lead by example. Quite frankly the EvE I have returned to is a more interesting place to romp around in and generally more accessible.
2-Nullsec and the new sov-mechanic associated whining is ridiculous. The big fat happy blue donut getting you down? Get out of your cage and go **** in their playpen. If all you have is blues on overview....well...thats on the individual.
3-The blather from much of the player base is offensive, selfish, and pathetic. The general tone of players has changed......it is sad to see that the rot of external influences has spread so widely....seriously you talk like that outside game to people? Yeah....thought not. I know I am not the only one who feels that way.
Fortunately I found a good crew to share the game with. And it's nice to be back in EvE generally speaking.
And not every vet is bitter.
Nor does every vet need/want something. Like anyone else if I want to play I will. If I get no enjoyment from the game itself....I will go do something else. End of story.
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RuleoftheBone
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 03:45:16 -
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^^^^Oooops....posted with an alt.
My views are the same as Sister MaryElephant |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
12180
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Posted - 2015.08.07 03:49:02 -
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RuleoftheBone wrote:^^^^Oooops....posted with an alt. My views are the same as Sister MaryElephant not paying attention in class, were ya?
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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RuleoftheBone
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 04:15:06 -
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Webvan wrote:RuleoftheBone wrote:^^^^Oooops....posted with an alt. My views are the same as Sister MaryElephant not paying attention in class, were ya?
Wow.....somebody gets the Cheech & Chong reference.
And gives away thier age
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Daerrol
Krieger Industries Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
216
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Posted - 2015.08.07 04:21:43 -
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Much of it needs player base mentality change. Undock. No really do it. take fights that you may not win. Take fights you'll probably lose. Take more fights. Don't be so depressed you lost your Atron/Vexor. If peopel spent half the time they spend docking and complaining and just used it to rat/fight, they'd never be bored and have plenty of ISK .
Nerf everything T3. All of it. Cruisers and Dessies are toxic.
PVP in your backup marauder.
Understand that bringing your linked quafed nano kiting D3 isn't going to get a fight.
Killboards, ISK efficiency, and losses are just numbers. So are kills. Anyone can whore in a titan, don't be impressed when people do it, don't be impressed when you do it.
Take a solo fight. It's not always a trap. |
Panthe3 Black
The Branded Few Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2015.08.07 05:05:15 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates?
We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive?
everyone comes back. not too worry |
Panthe3 Black
The Branded Few Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2015.08.07 05:07:05 -
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lord xavier wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Vets what would help other vets retetnion rates? Bitter vets what would help other bitter vets's retention rates?
We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive? 1: If CCP pretended to actually listen to the members and not the terrible CSM who do nothing but give terrible agenda based advice. 2: Get rid of the CSM or change it to a 1 nullsec, 1 low sec, 1 high sec member so they can give equal views to issues. Ideally individuals involved in PVE and PVP alliances. Then, when they are done. Get rid of them. 3: If players would undock for content and not for killboard stats, retention would go higher. Part of the issues with lower rates are these terrible changes being implemented by CCP. Though, to be completely honest. It also has to do alot with the players. Large groups are so far spread out in the game. Moving assets is a complete chore of its own. Why move to have ships destroyed when you can just sit and make isk all day on alts? Why don't people undock and make fights? I mean, OP, Brave moved to Aunsou and to be completely honest. Out of all the small fleets I have taken there you guys just play docking games for an hour before we just leave and go find someone else. You have three to FIVE times the number in system we do. Yet you do not undock. YOUR alliance is part of this inactivity bug. You are not the cause for alot or it, or even 5% of it, but you are part of the problem with never undocking and playing the game. Never trying to do fleets except when it is to take a moon or asset of some kind. Never wanting to fight. Alot of alliances are this way when we do nullsec roams. A lot of players are causing this boredom just as much as CCP is creating a ****-show of localized content with far too many systems and not enough players.
CSM is a huge joke and should be disbanded tbh. |
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
997
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Posted - 2015.08.07 06:04:56 -
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lord xavier wrote:1: If CCP pretended to actually listen to the members and not the terrible CSM who do nothing but give terrible agenda based advice. 2: Get rid of the CSM or change it to a 1 nullsec, 1 low sec, 1 high sec member so they can give equal views to issues. Ideally individuals involved in PVE and PVP alliances. Then, when they are done. Get rid of them. You should actually follow CSM activities sometime. As something that was born as means of PR damage control, they have pretty much no say in what CCP does, best they can do is to organize so-called "round tables" and the like. Do you know about upcoming one on jump fatigue? If not, do inform yourself and take part so that you don't blame CSM for not trying to do what's needed. Not that CCP have to listen to feedback received, mind you.
lord xavier wrote:I mean, OP, Brave moved to Aunsou and to be completely honest. Out of all the small fleets I have taken there you guys just play docking games for an hour before we just leave and go find someone else. You have three to FIVE times the number in system we do. Yet you do not undock. YOUR alliance is part of this inactivity bug. You are not the cause for alot or it, or even 5% of it, but you are part of the problem with never undocking and playing the game. Never trying to do fleets except when it is to take a moon or asset of some kind. Never wanting to fight. It's very funny that you proceed to crash blame train into Brave house even though it's alliance that allowed everyone to farm them for kills for months by undocking into fights already lost. So excuse them that they actually started to value their time and don't burn out themselves farming stuff just so that others could kill it, I suppose.
Sister MaryElephant wrote:3-The blather from much of the player base is offensive, selfish, and pathetic. The general tone of players has changed......it is sad to see that the rot of external influences has spread so widely....seriously you talk like that outside game to people? Yeah....thought not. I know I am not the only one who feels that way. Thankfully, it's mostly just EVE-O. And maybe some bitter people. Like myself sometimes
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
156
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Posted - 2015.08.07 07:56:58 -
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They simply have to change the EULA so that you may only unsubscribe when you present another player to take your place. Like in a pyramid sales scheme. This way the number of accounts would always rise and everyone would be happy. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
576
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Posted - 2015.08.07 09:05:43 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: We ALL KNOW vets are the lifeblood of this 12year old video game. We keep it alive. How can we keep our subs alive?
You could try playing the game instead of spending all day trying to come up with new stupid threads to start. Mr Epeen
Queue is good for another 15 days.. what did I miss?
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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B0RG 0VERLORD
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.08.07 09:38:42 -
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Quote:CSM is a huge joke and should be disbanded tbh.
best comment ever,
opinions only matter when they are your own
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32153
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Posted - 2015.08.07 09:59:33 -
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If you are a bittervet and happen to discover you are nonretentive, try a high fiber and protein diet. You'll be so retentive you'll have to scoop it out with a spoon.
hth
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Josef Djugashvilis
2973
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Posted - 2015.08.07 13:44:18 -
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I have been subscribed for just over eight years.
I suppose that some would consider me to be a vet, but I am deninitely not bitter.
The game changes, sometimes I like it sometimes I don't.
Such is Eve, adapt and move on.
This is not a signature.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6899
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Posted - 2015.08.07 15:55:22 -
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The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12087
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Posted - 2015.08.07 16:20:03 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there.
Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships.
Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy.
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DaReaper
Net 7
2460
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Posted - 2015.08.07 16:31:21 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:DaReaper wrote:and its a CAM thread, what did you expect i was going to pull a silver bullet out my behind so he can get the credit? HA! I kind of expected you to pinch the bridge of your nose until you looked like Owen Wilson..
yea i do that a lot when i read CAM threads. its better then slamming my head in to the desk.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2100
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Posted - 2015.08.07 16:35:47 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there. Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships. Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy.
That is the real issue with bitter vets. If they are bitter, they should of quit in the first place. Even if they play "for free", I really can't imagine myself grinding any amount of time to play a game I dislike... |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6899
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:15:14 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there. Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships. Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy.
You log in? And TEST? You are in TEST? C'mon now. And you just lectured me. I should laugh and cry at the same time.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12087
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:18:36 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there. Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships. Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy. You log in? And TEST? You are in TEST? C'mon now. And you just lectured me. I should laugh and cry at the same time.
Since I'm getting killed a lot, yes I log in, do you?
And What does TEST have to do with anything? "TEST" isn't paying for a game that it doesn't like (the community is part of the game), Herzog Wolfhammer is. Why, exactly, is that? |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12087
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:21:11 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
That is the real issue with bitter vets. If they are bitter, they should of quit in the first place. Even if they play "for free", I really can't imagine myself grinding any amount of time to play a game I dislike...
That just makes you sane lol. I actually don't think 'bitter vets' exist, it's a made up tag in a made up world.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
367
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:31:59 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there. Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships. Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy.
That is awesome. I am truly happy for you that your standards are so low.
Best description of Eve Online and why the community is the way it is
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12089
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:37:43 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:
That is awesome. I am truly happy for you that your standards are so low.
I pay for a game I like and playing with a community I like and somehow that's wrong...as said by people who don't like those things but still pay anyway?
Seriously (no internet guy Bullshit, I'm asking man to man), WTF is wrong with you people?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25532
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:40:22 -
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I had a good bittervet quote one that was then used in someone's signature, but now I can't find itGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Mag's
the united
19982
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:45:35 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:That is awesome. I am truly happy for you that your standards are so low. At least Jenn has standards.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
367
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Posted - 2015.08.07 18:59:55 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
That is awesome. I am truly happy for you that your standards are so low.
I pay for a game I like and playing with a community I like and somehow that's wrong...as said by people who don't like those things but still pay anyway? Seriously (no internet guy Bullshit, I'm asking man to man), WTF is wrong with you people?
Being that which has no alternative and that which is great are two completely different things.
So, no internet guy bullshit... what is so great about a game you yourself constantly post about the need to fix?
Best description of Eve Online and why the community is the way it is
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6902
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:00:48 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The biggest obstacle to bittervet retention is that the vets are bitter.
Find out why.
Here's a hint: all the new content and features in the world don't make up for an in-game community that has issues. Ever work at a place where the work sucked but the people were great? Or conversely, a place where the job was great but the people sucked? How did you feel when you finally left that job (for any reason)? Which one did you stay at longer? How did you feel while on either job? Much to be learned there. Good thing is that EVE has the best of both worlds, the game rocks (I generally itch to get home and get settled so i can log in) and the community is way above par (anyone who says EVE is bad has NEVER played League of Legends). EVE's community isn't for the politically correct though, it's like a biker bar with spaceships. Game and Community go hand in hand, and frankly it's dumb as hell to give a company money for making a game you don't like or that attracts a community you don't like.. The real problem is "reformer" types who, rather than F off to a game they actually like with a community that doesn't repulse them, they try to impose their own sense of things. That drives me crazy. You log in? And TEST? You are in TEST? C'mon now. And you just lectured me. I should laugh and cry at the same time. Since I'm getting killed a lot, yes I log in, do you? And What does TEST have to do with anything? "TEST" isn't paying for a game that it doesn't like (the community is part of the game), Herzog Wolfhammer is. Why, exactly, is that?
Never said I didn't like the game. I'm also immune to crappy workplaces, and people.
But most people won't play a game they don't like. And they are not here to troll like you do. It's like those #JusticeFor campaigns on social media, some kid who got killed, or a lion perhaps. Because they are gone and they won't be getting anything let alone justice.
So the people who didn't like the game and left are not "getting" anything here nor are they here to complain about it. They voted with their wallets and their feet (the kinds of votes that ever make any difference, in any topic, at any time).
Most of the bittervet complaints about the game changing are usually the self-aggrandizing "hurr durr the game is too easy now" screed from the troll or griefer made on their way out the door as to have a final say for their own sense of self importance. But the others, and I have known a lot of them, didn't say a word.
I'm still here because I like science fiction. The only time I ever threatened someone was back when a friend called me during the season opener for STTNG episode that concluded the previous season finale episode where Picard was kidnapped and assimilated by the Borg. I actually said "nobody call me between 8 and 9 PM this Saturday or I will rain unholy wrath upon you". And my phone rang and I just picked it up and said "you are going to die tonight" and hung up. I still don't know who called.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Freya Sertan
Et Liberate Vos De Deus
685
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:00:48 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
That is awesome. I am truly happy for you that your standards are so low.
I pay for a game I like and playing with a community I like and somehow that's wrong...as said by people who don't like those things but still pay anyway? Seriously (no internet guy Bullshit, I'm asking man to man), WTF is wrong with you people? Being that which has no alternative and that which is great are two completely different things. So, no internet guy bullshit... what is so great about a game you yourself constantly post about the need to fix?
How about the myriad things that DON'T need fixing? They might make it great, I dunno.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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