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Cividari
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:20:00 -
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Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.

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Cividari
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Abyssal Angel
Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
How about losing one of the shield extenders and 1 of the RCU for a med or large repper?
Whats the point in being able to take on 1 ship if you are left with zero armor? It might not matter if you are close to home, but if you have to travel alot afterwards, any gatecamp will have it that much easier then.
That aside I like a hp ultra boosted Domi :)
I think I had to fit both RCUs before I even got through fitting the highslots. But i agree it could use some repairing power of its own. But when solo you can just dock and trow on a repair and when camping there is bound to be someone you are camping with to have a remote rep/repair drone.

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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mandy Crow
Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
were you high when you came up with that setup?
Whats wrong with it?

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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jaybird Edited by: Jaybird on 08/12/2006 12:25:01 Originally by: Cividari -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
Even in this day and age we have people advocating the shield and armor tanking setups.... Yay, go with that setup, and spend alotta time in 0.0. In fact, use all faction and T2 gear, the more expensive the better preferably. I hate crap loot.
Guess im bound to get flamed for such a setup, would be nice to get some constructive critisms though. Generaly the reason why you dont fit both armor and shield tank is that both require cap, so when the first tank runs out you are out of cap so the second one dies as fast. But with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.

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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ Forgetting RSD II's? 
RSD? Must have forgotten about it so hard that I dont even know what it is 

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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 08/12/2006 13:01:27 ôBut with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.ö Why fit a tank that tanks say 50dps on shields and 0dps on amour when you can make one that takes 300dps on shields and has just as many hitpoints as a mixed tank? Due to splitting your tank between amour and shield you will get into a situation where someone breaks the shield tank, then breaks the amour tank while if you focus on 1 method only they might not break the tank. Say someone does 300dps you shield tanks dies over time then the amour tank dies. Now focus on shield tanking only and instead of dieing you live.
Well, lets say the enemy instead does 1000 dps. Then your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists. That means I would survive 1min vs a full neutron gankathron at optimal range with optimal skills and optimal tracking, is there any chance he will have cap to keep shooting that long?
I respect you and your passive tank setups alot Pottsey but I dont think I could personly use such setups since your cap recharge gets so heavily nerfed.

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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:28:00 -
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[qoute]Also, tons of HP's are pointless with no resits[/qoute]
As I said, this setups LOWEST resist across sheild/armor/hull is expl on armor at around 45%. We are looking at an average of probably somewere around 60% reists. And ofcourse no setup can end all, but its my goal to find a setup that can end as much as possible 

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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ôThen your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists.ö Unless my memory is playing tricks on me a pure shield tanks has a lot more then 60k effective hitpoints. But I cannot test right now as at work.
Just remembered something, I did the setup on quickfit so it is without the Hp boost. I cant check the exact stats since I dont actualy own any domi and the comp im on atm doesnt have quickfit.

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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jaybird Well, If it works, what are you here for? Try it in game and tell us all about it when it pwns or dies in 10 seconds. Theres no point in proving yourself in the forums, you can't PVP here.
Letting others know that it works ofcourse! Since I dont actualy own any domi I cant pvp with it and the chances I get at 1vs1 pvp are very few. The OP asked for NOS domi setups so I just opened up quickfit and tried to work out some original setup instead of the boring NOS EW TANK setups.

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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:39:00 -
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New setup: 3 Heavy NOS 3 Medium Neut
1 20km scram 2 Extenders 2 Invuls
4 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 1 DCU
Pre kali stats: Shields: 10k shields 54%, 81%, 72%, 63% Armor: 23k armor 80%, 53%, 66%, 66% Hull: 6.6k hull 54% all
Less draining and more tank then last setup.

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Posted - 2006.12.09 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ômy setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists.ö I just logged in and got 28340 shield hitpoints not factoring in resistance overall more then 60k total hitpoints best of all 74HP/s and 48cap/sec.
May I ask what your setup is? I just managed to get on sisi to test a full shield HP setup but with 7 t2 PDUs and 3 named shield extenders I only got 19k shield HP and the resistances sucks since ive only got one slot left for a hardener. Admittably my shield skills sucks (Shield Managment lvl 2 \o/) but that cant possibly make a 10k shield HP differance.

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Posted - 2006.12.09 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 09/12/2006 09:22:21 I have max shield skills all at lvl 5 with implants and a full set of T2 modules. I left 2 slots free for resistance as the only invul fields I have are better then T2 so I didnÆt think it was fair to use them. The 10k diffrance is mostly due to T2 modules over named and the skills.
EDIT: http://www.dissonance-corp.com/screenshots/25k.JPG No Damage controle didnt have one in the local star base and didnt feel like flying around so there is an extra PDS T2 fitted. EDIT2: No rigs fitted.
Ah ok, so your mediums are 3 extenders and 2 invuls? That means no scrambler? :(

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Posted - 2006.12.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Cividari New setup: 3 Heavy NOS 3 Medium Neut
1 20km scram 2 Extenders 2 Invuls
4 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 1 DCU
Pre kali stats: Shields: 10k shields 54%, 81%, 72%, 63% Armor: 23k armor 80%, 53%, 66%, 66% Hull: 6.6k hull 54% all
Less draining and more tank then last setup.
You should be getting more armor and shield
with 2 plates, you should allready get 20 k armor.
domi's hull is 7.8 k big
shield no idea.
As said I only used quickfit so the stats are pre-kali HP boost.

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