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Princess Nexxala
Gallente ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2006.12.08 10:35:00 -
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Just read a post on how to beat a NOS domi, hows about we post here all them NOS domi setups?
this is for solo PvP.
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Arktaos
Minmatar The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:01:00 -
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It's not excaktly hard...
Nos Ewar Tank
Drones
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:20:00 -
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Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.

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Abyssal Angel
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
How about losing one of the shield extenders and 1 of the RCU for a med or large repper?
Whats the point in being able to take on 1 ship if you are left with zero armor? It might not matter if you are close to home, but if you have to travel alot afterwards, any gatecamp will have it that much easier then.
That aside I like a hp ultra boosted Domi :)
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Mandy Crow
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
were you high when you came up with that setup?
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Abyssal Angel
Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
How about losing one of the shield extenders and 1 of the RCU for a med or large repper?
Whats the point in being able to take on 1 ship if you are left with zero armor? It might not matter if you are close to home, but if you have to travel alot afterwards, any gatecamp will have it that much easier then.
That aside I like a hp ultra boosted Domi :)
I think I had to fit both RCUs before I even got through fitting the highslots. But i agree it could use some repairing power of its own. But when solo you can just dock and trow on a repair and when camping there is bound to be someone you are camping with to have a remote rep/repair drone.

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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mandy Crow
Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
were you high when you came up with that setup?
Whats wrong with it?

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Jaybird
Gallente Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jaybird on 08/12/2006 12:25:01 Originally by: Cividari -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
Even in this day and age we have people advocating the shield and armor tanking setups.... Yay, go with that setup, and spend alotta time in 0.0. In fact, use all faction and T2 gear, the more expensive the better preferably. I hate crap loot.
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:24:00 -
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There are a couple off viable speedtank set ups but I d rather use them with a Phoon or Ishtar. Domi is painfully slow (even the Nanoversion) IMO
So I d say stick with uber armor tank (dual reps and hardening). The question is what to do with the mids and highs in Revelations... Perhaps 3xNos 2xLsmartbombs 1xsome gun, with abII scram web and 2xL Electrochem Injectors. You ll at least beat the crap out of other Domis :D (probably) Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jaybird Edited by: Jaybird on 08/12/2006 12:25:01 Originally by: Cividari -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
Even in this day and age we have people advocating the shield and armor tanking setups.... Yay, go with that setup, and spend alotta time in 0.0. In fact, use all faction and T2 gear, the more expensive the better preferably. I hate crap loot.
Guess im bound to get flamed for such a setup, would be nice to get some constructive critisms though. Generaly the reason why you dont fit both armor and shield tank is that both require cap, so when the first tank runs out you are out of cap so the second one dies as fast. But with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.

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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:36:00 -
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Forgetting RSD II's? 
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Jaybird
Gallente Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:43:00 -
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Well, I apologize for my rudeness, due to the amazing vaguness of the forums, I have a good laugh at alot of the things found on them. Its truly hard to get a good set-up off these things because everyone has a different amount of skills coupled with the fact we don't know how you fly, who your fighting, or your playing tactics. So, everyone can throw a ton of ideas and set-ups out, but who knows if they'll work.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ Forgetting RSD II's? 
RSD? Must have forgotten about it so hard that I dont even know what it is 

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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 08/12/2006 13:01:27 ôBut with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.ö Why fit a tank that tanks say 50dps on shields and 0dps on amour when you can make one that tanks 200dps on shields and has just as many hitpoints as a mixed tank? Due to splitting your tank between amour and shield you will get into a situation where someone breaks the shield tank, then breaks the amour tank while if you focus on 1 method only they might not break the tank. Say someone does 200dps you shield tanks dies over time then the amour tank dies. Now focus on shield tanking only and instead of dieing you live.
I donÆt know what the precise number is but if anyone does just enough to break your shield tank then you would have been better off without the amour modules and a better shield tank. Also at any given monument half your tanking modules are sitting about doing nothing.
Take the 2 RCUs itÆs a waste. You could fit PDS T2 and boost your shield tank while also getting more cap and more powergrid. You spent 3 slots on boosting resistance on amour and 3 slots on shield when you could spend 5 slots on shields resistance not that I would recommend that. 3 slots is enough then spend the other slots on boosting the tank.
It all comes down to if someone can break you shield tank he or she will break the amour tank. Scarp your amour tank and fit 2 or 3 PDS then shield relays or more PDS and you will more then triple the power of your tank.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 08/12/2006 13:01:27 ôBut with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.ö Why fit a tank that tanks say 50dps on shields and 0dps on amour when you can make one that takes 300dps on shields and has just as many hitpoints as a mixed tank? Due to splitting your tank between amour and shield you will get into a situation where someone breaks the shield tank, then breaks the amour tank while if you focus on 1 method only they might not break the tank. Say someone does 300dps you shield tanks dies over time then the amour tank dies. Now focus on shield tanking only and instead of dieing you live.
Well, lets say the enemy instead does 1000 dps. Then your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists. That means I would survive 1min vs a full neutron gankathron at optimal range with optimal skills and optimal tracking, is there any chance he will have cap to keep shooting that long?
I respect you and your passive tank setups alot Pottsey but I dont think I could personly use such setups since your cap recharge gets so heavily nerfed.

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Jaybird
Gallente Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 08/12/2006 13:01:27 ôBut with pasive tanks I dont see any reason not to. So please give me some constructive critism why this setup sucks so badly.ö Why fit a tank that tanks say 50dps on shields and 0dps on amour when you can make one that takes 300dps on shields and has just as many hitpoints as a mixed tank? Due to splitting your tank between amour and shield you will get into a situation where someone breaks the shield tank, then breaks the amour tank while if you focus on 1 method only they might not break the tank. Say someone does 300dps you shield tanks dies over time then the amour tank dies. Now focus on shield tanking only and instead of dieing you live.
Well, lets say the enemy instead does 1000 dps. Then your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists. That means I would survive 1min vs a full neutron gankathron at optimal range with optimal skills and optimal tracking, is there any chance he will have cap to keep shooting that long?
I respect you and your passive tank setups alot Pottsey but I dont think I could personly use such setups since your cap recharge gets so heavily nerfed.
If they do that much damage, any argument is moot, your going to die. Mixed tank or not. Ultimately, mixed tanks will fail because the modules needed to support either of them for any period of time goes in the oposite slots. Also, tons of HP's are pointless with no resits. Finally, there is no ultimate setup thats gonna work against everything. The best tank of all is playing smart and picking your fights.
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 08/12/2006 13:23:41 ôThen your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists.ö Unless my memory is playing tricks on me a pure shield tanks has a lot more then 60k effective hitpoints. But I cannot test right now as at work.
ôPottsey but I dont think I could personly use such setups since your cap recharge gets so heavily nerfed.ö Use PDS and you get tons of hitpoitns and tons of cap. There is no nerf to cap recharge only one very large boost. My Passive shield PvP setup has tones of cap and 4 cap neats which are better then Nos.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:28:00 -
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[qoute]Also, tons of HP's are pointless with no resits[/qoute]
As I said, this setups LOWEST resist across sheild/armor/hull is expl on armor at around 45%. We are looking at an average of probably somewere around 60% reists. And ofcourse no setup can end all, but its my goal to find a setup that can end as much as possible 

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Jaybird
Gallente Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:32:00 -
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Well, If it works, what are you here for? Try it in game and tell us all about it when it pwns or dies in 10 seconds. Theres no point in proving yourself in the forums, you can't PVP here.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ôThen your tank doesnt matter for much and when you reach armor/hull you die in seconds when instead my setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists.ö Unless my memory is playing tricks on me a pure shield tanks has a lot more then 60k effective hitpoints. But I cannot test right now as at work.
Just remembered something, I did the setup on quickfit so it is without the Hp boost. I cant check the exact stats since I dont actualy own any domi and the comp im on atm doesnt have quickfit.

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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jaybird Well, If it works, what are you here for? Try it in game and tell us all about it when it pwns or dies in 10 seconds. Theres no point in proving yourself in the forums, you can't PVP here.
Letting others know that it works ofcourse! Since I dont actualy own any domi I cant pvp with it and the chances I get at 1vs1 pvp are very few. The OP asked for NOS domi setups so I just opened up quickfit and tried to work out some original setup instead of the boring NOS EW TANK setups.

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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:49:00 -
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Cividari post here or mail me any setups you want checking. I will do my best to try tonight in game. Never looked at the hitpoints since the change my 60k comment was pre Kail. Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:49:00 -
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With manageable incoming the shield tank OR armor tank is much better. With a bit not manageable the same. With uber fantastic ponzwrised incoming DPS both will die at more or less the same time but with a proper tank you ll save yourself the s******s when people inspect your wreck... your choice rly... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

PeveS
The Edge Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Nexxala Just read a post on how to beat a NOS domi, hows about we post here all them NOS domi setups?
this is for solo PvP.
Max damage blastertron. I will not post the complete setup but it has 7xneutron t2 and 3x magstab. It will kill the domi before the mega is into half armor.
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Due to splitting your tank between amour and shield you will get into a situation where someone breaks the shield tank, then breaks the amour tank while if you focus on 1 method only they might not break the tank.
Thinking that your going to make a ship where your opponent cannot "break your tank" is really a false security. His setup will work much better in situations where damage incoming is far exceeding damage repaired. Before Kali, hiding behind a tank that was "unbreakable" was a good way to get killed (although the T3 battleships can all do it, especially with rigs).
-Bart
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
The only thing in your setup using cap is the invuls and they only matter for the first 1/2 of the fight, therefor, I recommend that you change at least one of the heavy nos into a neut and probably 2. And for the mediums use 1 nos, 1 neut (so the cycle times on your nos are mixed).
-Bart
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari Here is an (hopefully) original idea:
4 Heavy NOS 2 Heavy Neuts
Scram 2 Large shield extenders 2 invuls
2 1600mm plates 2 EANMs 2 RCUs 1 DCU
With the ECM nerf this might be a viable setup. It has 30k HP all with 50% or higher resists. The NOSs drain 450ish cap/12 sec and the Neuts 1200ish cap/24 sec.
Hmm... *flies away*
There, that wasn't so hard to beat, now was it? ;) ----------------------------
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Private Iron
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:49:00 -
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What I'm thinking about using for solo mission hunting piracy:
3x heavy nos, 2x med nos, 1x recon launcher 1x med cap booster, 1x sensor booster, 1x web, 1x warp disruptor, 1x mwd 1x LAR II, 3x t2 hardeners (explo, kin, therm), 1x best named dc, 1x cpu upgrade II, 1x 1600mm rt plate.
With 5x Ogres IIs, 5x berzerker IIs, 5x vespa IIs and 15x warrior IIs. I'm still thinking this setup through, but the idea is to probe and kill low sec mission runners. If only there was a cpu upgrade rig 
This is what I generally use though:
2x heavy nos, 3 med nos, 2x whatever 1x sensor booster, 1x heavy cap booster, 1x web, 1x warp disruptor, 1x target painter/whatever 2x LAR IIs, 3x t2 hardeners, 1x best named dc, 1x 1600mm rt plate.
More emphasis on the tank than the nos, but if you want you can drop the dc or one of the hardeners for an RCU II and fit another heavy nos. -----
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:19:00 -
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ômy setup has an effective 60k HP, 10k sheilds, 14k armor and 6k hull all with 50% or higher resists.ö I just logged in and got 28340 shield hitpoints not factoring in resistance overall more then 60k total hitpoints best of all 74HP/s and 48cap/sec.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 08/12/2006 17:44:59
Originally by: PeveS
Originally by: Princess Nexxala Just read a post on how to beat a NOS domi, hows about we post here all them NOS domi setups?
this is for solo PvP.
Max damage blastertron. I will not post the complete setup but it has 7xneutron t2 and 3x magstab. It will kill the domi before the mega is into half armor.
Mega has like 8k cap without mwd online... guess how long it takes properly fitted vampadomi to waste that... Now add mwd to equation. Happened to me twice now, ctded during fight with mega in vampadomi and came back looting :P -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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