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Cyril Nethrad Yawm ad-Din 8	Posted - 2015.08.13 07:26:08 - [61] - Quote Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent.
Tiberious Thessalonia Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 2460	Posted - 2015.08.13 07:31:33 - [62] - Quote Getting away from the frankly stupid image... I think it's a bit much to say that the republic is crumbling. The Empire didn't crumble when we were on the back foot. The Republic didn't crumble when we won the entire warzone. One system is a start in this fight but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Tiberious Thessalonia Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 2460	Posted - 2015.08.13 07:32:21 - [63] - Quote Oh, and #NoMedal
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 981	Posted - 2015.08.13 07:53:01 - [64] - Quote Cyril Nethrad wrote: Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent. No, you answered to me. You leveled your initial bit of ironicly holier-than-thou venom at a Matari Goon? Seriously? Someone who doesn't believe in slavery, and whose organization has thrown its support behind Maximilian Singularity's campaign to end slavery in the Empire by any means necessary? What's next, lecturing Mizhara on why she should support the Republic?
Lord Kailethre Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 217	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:05:47 - [65] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent. No, you answered to me. You leveled your initial bit of ironicly holier-than-thou venom at a Matari Goon? Seriously? Someone who doesn't believe in slavery, and whose organization has thrown its support behind Maximilian Singularity's campaign to end slavery in the Empire by any means necessary? What's next, lecturing Mizhara on why she should support the Republic? You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters.
Cyril Nethrad Yawm ad-Din 8	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:08:35 - [66] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent. No, you answered to me. You leveled your initial bit of ironicly holier-than-thou venom at a Matari Goon? Seriously? Someone who doesn't believe in slavery, and whose organization has thrown its support behind Maximilian Singularity's campaign to end slavery in the Empire by any means necessary? What's next, lecturing Mizhara on why she should support the Republic? Okay, granted! I shouldn't have answered to anyone directly. I apologize for pointing at you, Miss Arrendis. I was angry and that was a bad move. But this doesn't change the fact that this thread is full of slaver bigotry - I just picked the wrong example to make my point.
Cyril Nethrad Yawm ad-Din 8	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:10:55 - [67] - Quote Lord Kailethre wrote: You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters. Maybe you should at least try to debate with me before telling everybody it would be a waste of time?
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 981	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:14:27 - [68] - Quote Cyril Nethrad wrote: Okay, granted! I shouldn't have answered to anyone directly. I apologize for pointing at you, Miss Arrendis. I was angry and that was a bad move. But this doesn't change the fact that this thread is full of slaver bigotry - I just picked the wrong example to make my point. Apology accepted. And every thread's full of all sorts of horrible bigotry... except the stuff against those free-drone-love Gallente, that's not too bad.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1296	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:31:08 - [69] - Quote Cyril Nethrad wrote: Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent. It works both ways then, no ? I am pretty sure some Matari just defended this... thing... under the guise of parody. Disgusting pigs.
Lord Kailethre Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 217	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:50:17 - [70] - Quote Cyril Nethrad wrote: Lord Kailethre wrote: You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters. Maybe you should at least try to debate with me before telling everybody it would be a waste of time? No offence, but all the posts on the IGS are a waste of time. Some just happen to be more amusing than others.
Cyril Nethrad Yawm ad-Din 8	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:52:23 - [71] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Satja Askariin wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Arrendis wrote: This is in incredibly poor taste, especially considering the subject objects to having her image used this way, and has not given her permission for her likeness to be reproduced. Isn't it a nice feeling getting completely objectified by someone else without being asked for permission? I'd hate it, too! And now think about slavery... Because clearly the best way to make a meaningful point about the nature of slavery is to objectify a respectable woman who was herself a slave and does not practice the institution, not being of sufficient rank to personally own slaves herself. That's not what I said and as you can see I did not answer to Miss Kernher. What I wanted to point out is the double moral standards of those bigots in this thread, who do not oppose slavery when it's about my people, but are outraged about someone "of their chosen kind" to be objectified without consent. It works both ways then, no ? I am pretty sure some Matari just defended this... thing... under the guise of satire. Disgusting pigs. You're right, but that doesn't make it any better and can in no way be an excuse for anything!
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 589	Posted - 2015.08.13 08:56:18 - [72] - Quote Lord Kailethre wrote: Cyril Nethrad wrote: Lord Kailethre wrote: You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters. Maybe you should at least try to debate with me before telling everybody it would be a waste of time? No offence, but all the posts on the IGS are a waste of time. Some just happen to be more amusing than others. I come here to find something to snark at. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 982	Posted - 2015.08.13 09:16:29 - [73] - Quote Lord Kailethre wrote: You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters. I debate with the Goblin. I am sadly lacking in frugality with my letters.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 589	Posted - 2015.08.13 09:31:20 - [74] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Lord Kailethre wrote: You can't debate with fanatics, either of the religious or the freedumbs variety. Don't waste your letters. I debate with the Goblin. I am sadly lacking in frugality with my letters. By Pator, why do you torture yourself so? Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 982	Posted - 2015.08.13 10:27:35 - [75] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: By Pator, why do you torture yourself so? Because I hate myself, and clearly wish to destroy my brain.
Natheniel Mostly Sober Dead Terrorists 39	Posted - 2015.08.13 14:24:11 - [76] - Quote I cant believe this has gone up, its a total invasion of privacy! Her image should not be used in such a manner, truly you are a reprehensible man. prints out full body copy on good paper and posts it up on his CQ in sis Honestly, what makes you wish to do such a thing to her? All you do is destroy her image! "Life is as a storm, one must be prepared for the hardship and scorn. But with in this is a light, one for which we must fight. For hope is our weapon and our dreams are our shield. When fully armed we can not be felled from the field."
Tyrel Toov Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 538	Posted - 2015.08.13 14:33:26 - [77] - Quote Meh, I've seen better. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
m1thr0s 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:10:09 - [78] - Quote Wow you people are way too pinched! Anyways the clones are the property of the Amarr Empire anyways, so no pirating was committed. I doubt Samira Kernher is nearly as self-obsessed as you all are making her out to be. Man is not to find truth in spirit alone, God did become Man so there is nothing horrible about the body in it's natural form, the only thing that has changed in time is beliefs during the long separation, with the truth being restored to the Amarr. Baseliner bodies are sacred and unchanged since the time of the unity. I don't know where all of this shame creeps into things as God ordered us Amarr to be proud and mighty, and at one time all of man was like the Amarr. And since the models are all clones it's not violating any sensibilities of depicting sacred flesh, it's just like painting a picture of an inanimate object. As well, the primacy of the divine is often overlooked in these discussions. The cultural affections of the Amarrian people are far too often taken as divine law and no good can come of that. War as a tool of the reclamation is superior to appeasing liberal sensibilities. And I ask you, do you all think you have the same rights as a naturally born citizen of the Empire? The Theology Council may tolerate us but that does not mean we are governed by the same rights a naturally born citizen is. We are just clones designed to serve the Empire, weapons of God. I didn't choose the subject matter, the person, the system we took, and I did not create the poster, did you all consider that? Recruitment is up 12% this week!
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 5618	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:15:33 - [79] - Quote This entire thread is a depressing exercise in the tasteless, the vile and the thoughtless. Dreadful. Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all. Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus. Andreus Ixiris > ... Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 329	Posted - 2015.08.13 20:11:17 - [80] - Quote m1thr0s wrote: I doubt Samira Kernher is nearly as self-obsessed as you all are making her out to be. Lt. Kernher herself registered a protest, you know. Quote: Man is not to find truth in spirit alone, God did become Man so there is nothing horrible about the body in it's natural form, the only thing that has changed in time is beliefs during the long separation, with the truth being restored to the Amarr. Baseliner bodies are sacred and unchanged since the time of the unity. I don't know where all of this shame creeps into things as God ordered us Amarr to be proud and mighty, and at one time all of man was like the Amarr. And since the models are all clones it's not violating any sensibilities of depicting sacred flesh, it's just like painting a picture of an inanimate object. What a bizzare heresy! Lord Admiral of PIE inc. \| -áRecruitment Information \| Public Forum \| Neocom channel: "PIE Public" \| Amarr Victor!
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1029	Posted - 2015.08.13 20:19:13 - [81] - Quote I suppose this whole thing has garnered far more attention than it deserves by now. Capsuleers will be capsuleers, and the pitfalls of celebrity and 'free speech' are illustrated for all to see. That said, well done on Tararan, with Lamaa falling earlier today. I would ask that anyone planning on celebrating refrain from debauchery, but I think I can already smell the alcohol and overpriced and overused hookers from here. Such is life in the 24th Imperial Crusade, where classless mercenaries try to act like they have some virtue, and the faithful grin and bear the nonsense in favor of the lives we solemnly protect.
m1thr0s 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.13 20:24:34 - [82] - Quote Gaven Lok'ri wrote: m1thr0s wrote: I doubt Samira Kernher is nearly as self-obsessed as you all are making her out to be. Lt. Kernher herself registered a protest, you know. Quote: Man is not to find truth in spirit alone, God did become Man so there is nothing horrible about the body in it's natural form, the only thing that has changed in time is beliefs during the long separation, with the truth being restored to the Amarr. Baseliner bodies are sacred and unchanged since the time of the unity. I don't know where all of this shame creeps into things as God ordered us Amarr to be proud and mighty, and at one time all of man was like the Amarr. And since the models are all clones it's not violating any sensibilities of depicting sacred flesh, it's just like painting a picture of an inanimate object. What a bizzare heresy! That's primary school level theology, you know. Triangle descending from the circle and all of that. That's us, and all of them. The mind has to be saved, not the body, for the unaltered body is already acceptable in the eyes of the Lord. The idea that God created two kinds of men is the heresy! The division or, the dark came from man and the procession of civilization. The idea that we can become more like God through the flesh is the heresy, and is a capsuleer conspiracy in Amarr to overthrow the true religion!
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 330	Posted - 2015.08.13 20:40:33 - [83] - Quote I do not want to know what Primary School you went to if you believe God became Man. Edit: Actually, I take that back. I do want to know, all of the teachers need to be referred to the Inquisition. Lord Admiral of PIE inc. \| -áRecruitment Information \| Public Forum \| Neocom channel: "PIE Public" \| Amarr Victor!
Spyra Gryra Tash-Murkon Scrap and Salvage 11	Posted - 2015.08.13 20:51:20 - [84] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: I think I can already smell the alcohol and overpriced and overused hookers from here. Now that really is disgusting.
Tyrel Toov Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 539	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:00:45 - [85] - Quote Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Quote: Man is not to find truth in spirit alone, God did become Man so there is nothing horrible about the body in it's natural form, the only thing that has changed in time is beliefs during the long separation, with the truth being restored to the Amarr. Baseliner bodies are sacred and unchanged since the time of the unity. I don't know where all of this shame creeps into things as God ordered us Amarr to be proud and mighty, and at one time all of man was like the Amarr. And since the models are all clones it's not violating any sensibilities of depicting sacred flesh, it's just like painting a picture of an inanimate object. What a bizzare heresy! Meh, I've seen better...... I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
m1thr0s 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:19:18 - [86] - Quote I don't need to tell you anything about my school, this is common knowledge. It's the first essential premise you learn about the circle and the extended triangle, the symbol of the state of Man before the great darkness which he brought upon himself. God may become and create from himself without diminishing himself. Furthermore, and this is for the infidels in the audience, the Atash Amarr or sacred central flame, the supreme flame, is the symbol of God's perfect ability to purify without becoming contaminated himself, unlike water, that filth the Blooders worship! "The first men, yes. Unbroken circle, God become man" - Theology Professor Nusi It is that great symbol which unites all of mankind in a common purpose, despite whatever circumstance they find themselves in. They are all our bros. I don't recognize the religious authority of capsuleers, and this is exactly why. Next you'll be telling me I should be taking a blood bath or that we should be reconstructing the Eve "Gate" to return to God, as if baby birds need to return to the nest after learning to fly. It is your tongue whom the Inquisition should burn out! Clone!
Maria Daphiti PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 69	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:29:03 - [87] - Quote m1thr0s wrote: It is that great symbol which unites all of mankind in a common purpose, despite whatever circumstance they find themselves in. They are all our bros. No, not all. For example, Nauplius is not my "Bro".
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 332	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:31:47 - [88] - Quote So you are taking a symbol that means God and Man were at one point in history unified and understanding that as God becoming man. So it is a simple misunderstanding of an overly simplistic metaphorical description of a symbol rather than a true heresy, that is less dire than what I was thinking you meant. It doesn't make the rest of your rational for immoral and lewd behaivor any less absurd, of course. Nor does it limit the offense you have done to Lt. Kernher through publication of this trash. Lord Admiral of PIE inc. \| -áRecruitment Information \| Public Forum \| Neocom channel: "PIE Public" \| Amarr Victor!
m1thr0s 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:35:53 - [89] - Quote Maria Daphiti wrote: m1thr0s wrote: It is that great symbol which unites all of mankind in a common purpose, despite whatever circumstance they find themselves in. They are all our bros. No, not all. For example, Nauplius is not my "Bro". Yes he is! He is your fallen brother! You have a duty to reclaim him!
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1030	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:38:44 - [90] - Quote I can't even.

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