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Miko Tanagi	Posted - 2003.11.20 07:57:00 - [1] I realize this might be a trivial bug for many, but can we get a word on when corporate taxes will be fixed? The taxes used to be applied, but the isk never made its way to corp wallet, now the taxes aren't taken out of member transactions of any type. This needs to be fixed soon please. [img:0a1fd45f7f]http://soreloserz.com/storage/Pics/aj.jpg[/img:0a1fd45f7f]
Miko Tanagi Amarr The Money Makers	Posted - 2003.11.20 07:57:00 - [2] I realize this might be a trivial bug for many, but can we get a word on when corporate taxes will be fixed? The taxes used to be applied, but the isk never made its way to corp wallet, now the taxes aren't taken out of member transactions of any type. This needs to be fixed soon please.
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.11.20 09:50:00 - [3] Please get this sorted. Feedback was sought from the players many moons ago, a reworking of taxation was promised - then nothing. Come on! Players gave a lot of good feedback, there was lots of discussion around this in the CSM chats - and nothing. It's just such a pain at the moment - the amount of faffing around you have to do just to pay the bills. I get enough of that running my own business, thanks. Please fix the corp taxation. As an aside, if the devs are going to solicit feedback from the players, get a good load of it, and then do nothing - no response, no time scales, no communication at all - how much feedback and help from the player base do you think you'll get next time? Just something to consider - issues being handled like this do not encourage players to continue helping CCP out. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.11.20 09:50:00 - [4] Please get this sorted. Feedback was sought from the players many moons ago, a reworking of taxation was promised - then nothing. Come on! Players gave a lot of good feedback, there was lots of discussion around this in the CSM chats - and nothing. It's just such a pain at the moment - the amount of faffing around you have to do just to pay the bills. I get enough of that running my own business, thanks. Please fix the corp taxation. As an aside, if the devs are going to solicit feedback from the players, get a good load of it, and then do nothing - no response, no time scales, no communication at all - how much feedback and help from the player base do you think you'll get next time? Just something to consider - issues being handled like this do not encourage players to continue helping CCP out. Cheers, TOM
Phersephone	Posted - 2003.11.20 10:17:00 - [5] wait for it....... tomb "i wasn't aware that was a problem..."
Phersephone Caldari POD Corp	Posted - 2003.11.20 10:17:00 - [6] wait for it....... tomb "i wasn't aware that was a problem..."
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.11.20 15:59:00 - [7] i agree, please sort the corp taxation out. ever tried gettign people to volounteer 10% of there earnings , most difficult. plz plz plz sort it. dev, gm or polaris plz respond to this thread evryone else plz support it
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.11.20 15:59:00 - [8] i agree, please sort the corp taxation out. ever tried gettign people to volounteer 10% of there earnings , most difficult. plz plz plz sort it. dev, gm or polaris plz respond to this thread evryone else plz support it
LanM	Posted - 2003.11.20 16:14:00 - [9] Edited by: LanM on 20/11/2003 16:14:59 I agree that this needs to get fixed... but it needs to be done in a way that it dosn't kill traders or people that sell items for small profits. A corp tax of 10% would efectivally kill almost all forms of trading and selling on the market right now,heck, I'll bet anything above 2% probally would. as I doubt you can find any trade route that has a better profit than 5% per item... with a 10% I would efectivally be losing money to the corp after every trade. Same with buying and selling ships. corp takes are not a trivial matter. its not so easy.
LanM	Posted - 2003.11.20 16:14:00 - [10] Edited by: LanM on 20/11/2003 16:14:59 I agree that this needs to get fixed... but it needs to be done in a way that it dosn't kill traders or people that sell items for small profits. A corp tax of 10% would efectivally kill almost all forms of trading and selling on the market right now,heck, I'll bet anything above 2% probally would. as I doubt you can find any trade route that has a better profit than 5% per item... with a 10% I would efectivally be losing money to the corp after every trade. Same with buying and selling ships. corp takes are not a trivial matter. its not so easy.
what	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:01:00 - [11] It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention.
what	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:01:00 - [12] It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention.
Luther Pendragon	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:07:00 - [13] Anythings better than now. Just put in a straight sales tax function and then dabble about trying for the 'perfect' solution later. ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! waves his hand in your face in the jedi way
Luther Pendragon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:07:00 - [14] Anythings better than now. Just put in a straight sales tax function and then dabble about trying for the 'perfect' solution later. ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! waves his hand in your face in the jedi way
Deloup Drakar	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:55:00 - [15] there is already some sort of taxation going on. look at it next time you buy or sell something on the npc market. most notable on large isk transactions
Deloup Drakar Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.11.20 18:55:00 - [16] there is already some sort of taxation going on. look at it next time you buy or sell something on the npc market. most notable on large isk transactions
Myrmex	Posted - 2003.11.20 19:21:00 - [17] its the market fee ( npc )
Myrmex Nevahefas Etarip	Posted - 2003.11.20 19:21:00 - [18] its the market fee ( npc )
Luther Pendragon	Posted - 2003.11.20 19:27:00 - [19] exactly. Just expand the npc function and put money back into the corp coffers. ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! waves his hand in your face in the jedi way
Luther Pendragon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2003.11.20 19:27:00 - [20] exactly. Just expand the npc function and put money back into the corp coffers. ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! waves his hand in your face in the jedi way
semp	Posted - 2003.11.20 21:05:00 - [21] Tax needs sorting asap Please fix this CCP Semp
semp Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2003.11.20 21:05:00 - [22] Tax needs sorting asap Please fix this CCP Semp
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:08:00 - [23] Quote: It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention. CCP got more than enough good feedback on way's players wanted it to work - several pages of good, well thought out ideas. There's already a tax level a corp can set - how about CCP just fix that, so the money goes into the corp wallet, not into thin air? There's already an NPC station tax on transactions, so there obviously is already a working tax system in game. Just expand it so that CEOs can set it themselves. They don't even need to implement all the cool stuff players came up with - just fix what's there. That taxation thread was one of the most productive and positive discussions I've seen so far on these forums - and it's sunk without trace. I'd really like to see a quick fix to the current system, as outlined above, and then the cool stuff can come in with player owned objects, where it will be needed. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:08:00 - [24] Quote: It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention. CCP got more than enough good feedback on way's players wanted it to work - several pages of good, well thought out ideas. There's already a tax level a corp can set - how about CCP just fix that, so the money goes into the corp wallet, not into thin air? There's already an NPC station tax on transactions, so there obviously is already a working tax system in game. Just expand it so that CEOs can set it themselves. They don't even need to implement all the cool stuff players came up with - just fix what's there. That taxation thread was one of the most productive and positive discussions I've seen so far on these forums - and it's sunk without trace. I'd really like to see a quick fix to the current system, as outlined above, and then the cool stuff can come in with player owned objects, where it will be needed. Cheers, TOM
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:19:00 - [25] lanM , you missed the point a bit there. the corp tax is decided by the ceo not eve if it gets implemented. the 10% was what i was taking my members but they had to manually transfer it to the corp. give us back the power to use the tax and let us decide what level we want to set it at, im sure if all ceo's discuss it with there members then it will work. i cant see why it would be so hard to sort it for trade goods. they are already planning to have all modules coded so that if a p'ker kills someone the modules have to be 'cleaned' or the police will know its stolen goods etc. why can they not code any trade good purchases when you buy them to include the buy price. when you sell it, it uses the diference between the the buy and sell price. (not sure if that could be done thou) . alternativly just make taxes payable on ore , minerals selling and npc bountys, surley that could work with not too much effort.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:19:00 - [26] lanM , you missed the point a bit there. the corp tax is decided by the ceo not eve if it gets implemented. the 10% was what i was taking my members but they had to manually transfer it to the corp. give us back the power to use the tax and let us decide what level we want to set it at, im sure if all ceo's discuss it with there members then it will work. i cant see why it would be so hard to sort it for trade goods. they are already planning to have all modules coded so that if a p'ker kills someone the modules have to be 'cleaned' or the police will know its stolen goods etc. why can they not code any trade good purchases when you buy them to include the buy price. when you sell it, it uses the diference between the the buy and sell price. (not sure if that could be done thou) . alternativly just make taxes payable on ore , minerals selling and npc bountys, surley that could work with not too much effort.
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:25:00 - [27] just a side note as well. why cant you sell stuff from the corp hangar. atm you have to move it to your personal hangar, would be a nice little feature to add, also put in a new role 'trade officer' or something like that so the ceo's can select the people who are allowed to sel lthe corp goods.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:25:00 - [28] just a side note as well. why cant you sell stuff from the corp hangar. atm you have to move it to your personal hangar, would be a nice little feature to add, also put in a new role 'trade officer' or something like that so the ceo's can select the people who are allowed to sel lthe corp goods.
Aelita	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:50:00 - [29] Nah, I see CCP lazy to implementig/fixign/bring back features. CCP simply has not enough resources and rated these points as second grade. Even people telling this is 1st grade problem for any corporation they wouldn't listen. Instead of it nerfing thins. We must rise our voices again because some problems making corporation working on less than 100 of strength. Here is list of bugs/features which corporations need most: 1. Corporation taxes. CCP implement it and leave players decide how they will use them. Traders inside of corp could be reimbursed if it hurt theirs trade profit. 2. Corporation sale/buy orders. We need it because other way there is out of control whom and for how much sell corporation goods. 3. Offices. Actually is no free offices in 0.0 systems on stations where are services like factory or laboratory. Without office on station corporate hangar doesn't exist and then corporation can't operate on such kind of stations at all. This hurt most new corporations. These points are so such important and I does rate them forefront of any other bug/fixes. I wrote about it three petitions every month three mothÆs back and every month I only getting really empty promises about it will be fixed. These things are broken more than four months. God sake start working you lazy programmers.
Aelita Minmatar CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2003.11.21 11:50:00 - [30] Nah, I see CCP lazy to implementig/fixign/bring back features. CCP simply has not enough resources and rated these points as second grade. Even people telling this is 1st grade problem for any corporation they wouldn't listen. Instead of it nerfing thins. We must rise our voices again because some problems making corporation working on less than 100 of strength. Here is list of bugs/features which corporations need most: 1. Corporation taxes. CCP implement it and leave players decide how they will use them. Traders inside of corp could be reimbursed if it hurt theirs trade profit. 2. Corporation sale/buy orders. We need it because other way there is out of control whom and for how much sell corporation goods. 3. Offices. Actually is no free offices in 0.0 systems on stations where are services like factory or laboratory. Without office on station corporate hangar doesn't exist and then corporation can't operate on such kind of stations at all. This hurt most new corporations. These points are so such important and I does rate them forefront of any other bug/fixes. I wrote about it three petitions every month three mothÆs back and every month I only getting really empty promises about it will be fixed. These things are broken more than four months. God sake start working you lazy programmers.
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.11.24 09:58:00 - [31] * BUMP * This can't be forgotten again. There are known problems that are really hampereing corporations, the players have a dearth of solutions - please fix this. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.11.24 09:58:00 - [32] * BUMP * This can't be forgotten again. There are known problems that are really hampereing corporations, the players have a dearth of solutions - please fix this. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.11.29 10:57:00 - [33] Not gonna give up on this. It needs to be fixed! Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.11.29 10:57:00 - [34] Not gonna give up on this. It needs to be fixed! Cheers, TOM
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.11.29 12:27:00 - [35] BUMP
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.11.29 12:27:00 - [36] BUMP
Jubeli	Posted - 2003.11.29 13:49:00 - [37] /sign this is a issue also why having it max to 10%? in sweden we have 30% taxes minimum.. corporations that want higher tax should have the opportunity to do that.. (speciall corps that functions as community don't want people running side ops with untaxed isk) BUMP
Jubeli Caldari Joint Espionage and Defence Industries	Posted - 2003.11.29 13:49:00 - [38] /sign this is a issue also why having it max to 10%? in sweden we have 30% taxes minimum.. corporations that want higher tax should have the opportunity to do that.. (speciall corps that functions as community don't want people running side ops with untaxed isk) BUMP
Abavus Durden	Posted - 2003.11.29 17:12:00 - [39] /sign Please give some attention to this CCP! If it's part of the tech2 patch, then give us a hint. So many weeks without this issue even being mentioned makes me sad inside. -----
Abavus Durden Caldari Pukin' Dogs D0GMA	Posted - 2003.11.29 17:12:00 - [40] /sign Please give some attention to this CCP! If it's part of the tech2 patch, then give us a hint. So many weeks without this issue even being mentioned makes me sad inside. --
Shock	Posted - 2003.11.29 21:33:00 - [41] Quote: It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention. "For every complicated problem there is always a simple solution...and it's always wrong" --- soonÖ
Shock Caldari	Posted - 2003.11.29 21:33:00 - [42] Quote: It's a lot more complex than most people think it is to come up with a simple and effective solution. It's obvious its been backburner as other things need more immediate attention. "For every complicated problem there is always a simple solution...and it's always wrong" --- soonÖ
Kesh Inehre	Posted - 2003.12.01 19:04:00 - [43] bump
Kesh Inehre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.12.01 19:04:00 - [44] bump
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.12.02 13:04:00 - [45] Bump im gonna bump this until a dev has the decentcy to reply to it. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER. We pay your wages if you hadnt worked that out yet
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.12.02 13:04:00 - [46] Bump im gonna bump this until a dev has the decentcy to reply to it. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER. We pay your wages if you hadnt worked that out yet
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.12.03 11:55:00 - [47] It's an important topic, ChaosOne, and I'm not going to let it slide either - it needs a fix, and soon. However, that probably isn't the right way to go about asking. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.12.03 11:55:00 - [48] It's an important topic, ChaosOne, and I'm not going to let it slide either - it needs a fix, and soon. However, that probably isn't the right way to go about asking. Cheers, TOM
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.12.03 12:06:00 - [49] Your quite right darth, prob not the post ive done, but months of ignoring this is quite annoying. We know theres probs with the tax, but implement it and let the corps sort out the tax level. im sure most would rather have it in there and work around it rather than it not being in there at all. thous who dont like it can set to 0.0 tax. but id just like the option.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.12.03 12:06:00 - [50] Your quite right darth, prob not the post ive done, but months of ignoring this is quite annoying. We know theres probs with the tax, but implement it and let the corps sort out the tax level. im sure most would rather have it in there and work around it rather than it not being in there at all. thous who dont like it can set to 0.0 tax. but id just like the option.
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.12.05 12:02:00 - [51] Edited by: Darth Tom on 05/12/2003 12:03:06 I am saddened to see that there is still no timeline on when this will be fixed. I was also disappointed to see Hellmar and Lekjart dodge the issue of fubar corp taxes with an almost politician like skill: Quote: <malachlite> malachlite> when will you get either corp taxes, jumpgate tolls, station tolls, or even the stocks to start working? right now its all inactive and a pain to ceos everywhere. <hellmar> a part of our move to activate a lot more of the NPC corp stanging and faction standing <hellmar> is setting the parameters for various station services to be modulated by standing <hellmar> first in line is refining and the "we take" parf of the refining window <hellmar> later we'll add docking and jumping through stargates <LeKjart> the old standing system was giving us too chaotic data, but the new standing system should be more reasonable. Please get this fixed, CCP. Cheers, TOM
Darth Tom Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.12.05 12:02:00 - [52] Edited by: Darth Tom on 05/12/2003 12:03:06 I am saddened to see that there is still no timeline on when this will be fixed. I was also disappointed to see Hellmar and Lekjart dodge the issue of fubar corp taxes with an almost politician like skill: Quote: <malachlite> malachlite> when will you get either corp taxes, jumpgate tolls, station tolls, or even the stocks to start working? right now its all inactive and a pain to ceos everywhere. <hellmar> a part of our move to activate a lot more of the NPC corp stanging and faction standing <hellmar> is setting the parameters for various station services to be modulated by standing <hellmar> first in line is refining and the "we take" parf of the refining window <hellmar> later we'll add docking and jumping through stargates <LeKjart> the old standing system was giving us too chaotic data, but the new standing system should be more reasonable. Please get this fixed, CCP. Cheers, TOM
Lorek Kelden	Posted - 2003.12.06 11:28:00 - [53] I also agree. to me it would seem to be a simple fix i do not have the ability to see what is so hard about the corporate tax if you ask me all they would have to do is turn it on. it also seems that this would help recruiting for other corps. like if they had trader corps or something. the corporate stock exchane might be a complex issue but the corporations are not really corps if they cant sell there stock for isk also i think stock is bugged i cant make more shares when i have two share holders vote and they have all the shares. when it say 100% yes then why doesn't it happen? May the Spirit of New Eden shine brightly on your path.
Lorek Kelden Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2003.12.06 11:28:00 - [54] I also agree. to me it would seem to be a simple fix i do not have the ability to see what is so hard about the corporate tax if you ask me all they would have to do is turn it on. it also seems that this would help recruiting for other corps. like if they had trader corps or something. the corporate stock exchane might be a complex issue but the corporations are not really corps if they cant sell there stock for isk also i think stock is bugged i cant make more shares when i have two share holders vote and they have all the shares. when it say 100% yes then why doesn't it happen? May the Spirit of New Eden shine brightly on your path.
PreTender	Posted - 2003.12.06 11:54:00 - [55] as CEO you have to go to sanctianable actions and accept the vote you well get the new shares then __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com
PreTender Amarr Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2003.12.06 11:54:00 - [56] as CEO you have to go to sanctianable actions and accept the vote you well get the new shares then __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com http://www.eve-wiki.net
Abavus Durden	Posted - 2003.12.07 03:05:00 - [57] Bumpity Bump Bump. -----
Abavus Durden Caldari Pukin' Dogs D0GMA	Posted - 2003.12.07 03:05:00 - [58] Bumpity Bump Bump. --
Lorek Kelden	Posted - 2003.12.07 11:30:00 - [59] Wow dont i feel stupid. May the Spirit of New Eden shine brightly on your path.
Lorek Kelden Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2003.12.07 11:30:00 - [60] Wow dont i feel stupid. May the Spirit of New Eden shine brightly on your path.
ChaosOne	Posted - 2003.12.07 23:17:00 - [61] bumpy cmon devs show us you read this stuff. reply plz
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2003.12.07 23:17:00 - [62] bumpy cmon devs show us you read this stuff. reply plz
Simon Magus Amarr Arete Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.15 02:30:00 - [63] Is this STILL broken?
Gane Green Gallente Digital Foundry	Posted - 2007.08.15 03:20:00 - [64] Necro is bad check the date. IBTL \o/
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.08.15 18:01:00 - [65] Originally by: Simon Magus Is this STILL broken? No it is not.

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