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Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 17:23:00 - [1] Explain this? This guy has obviously been doing this for awhile, and he's been in ISS for some time and yet the neutral anti pirate alliance allows it to go on? Or do they encourage it? This occured in Jita to a corpmate of mine... First a link to the image in case the mods decide the image is too big and cut it out, but the image will be here for those of you who beat the mods to the post http://etlebut.openface.ca/~silver/daoc/images/Scorpion/ISSPirate.jpg
Vensa Heckler ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 17:59:00 - [2] unnecessary thread, this kind of thing should be dealt via email to the person in questions CEO. - Love is the Law, Love under Will
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:01:00 - [3] Edited by: maGz on 09/12/2006 18:01:29 Originally by: Vensa Heckler unnecessary thread, this kind of thing should be dealt via email to the person in questions CEO. Necessary thread. ISS (or at least Butter Dog) have asked for evidence of ISS pirating, OP supplied it. ____________ The Priory Killboard
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:02:00 - [4] Oh its very neccessary. It lets everyone know what kind of alliance ISS really is. The only reason you want it gone is because your ISS and have no way to refute the fact that you harbor a known pirate. The proof is in the picture, you said provide proof in earlier threads, I have now done so. I'm sorry that ISS has been shown to be a group of liars, but the people must know.
August Personage Caldari Clarf Inc	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:05:00 - [5] Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 09/12/2006 18:01:29 Originally by: Vensa Heckler unnecessary thread, this kind of thing should be dealt via email to the person in questions CEO. Necessary thread. ISS (or at least Butter Dog) have asked for evidence of ISS pirating, OP supplied it. fair enough, doesn't mean the the thread is necessary. this kind of thing should be dealt with via evemail, instead of the drama-llama-ing on the fora
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:13:00 - [6] Originally by: August Personage Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 09/12/2006 18:01:29 Originally by: Vensa Heckler unnecessary thread, this kind of thing should be dealt via email to the person in questions CEO. Necessary thread. ISS (or at least Butter Dog) have asked for evidence of ISS pirating, OP supplied it. fair enough, doesn't mean the the thread is necessary. this kind of thing should be dealt with via evemail, instead of the drama-llama-ing on the fora What is it that needs to be dealt with via evemail? To me this seems to be nothing more than someone showing what ISS is really about... Hopefully the populace will finally see the truth and act upon it! ____________ The Priory Killboard
Vensa Heckler ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Caledric Oh its very neccessary. It lets everyone know what kind of alliance ISS really is. The only reason you want it gone is because your ISS and have no way to refute the fact that you harbor a known pirate. The proof is in the picture, you said provide proof in earlier threads, I have now done so. I'm sorry that ISS has been shown to be a group of liars, but the people must know. i'm sorry to dissapoint you there but I do not equal ISS, that guy does not equal ISS, no one person equals ISS. the ISS is a group of people, you have involved two of them in this discussion, I have told no lies, and considering that the other guy hasn't said anything HE has not yet told any lies. you are quite within your rights to post whatever the hell you want to up here, i simply feel that this would be better dealt with by contacting his CEO and informing him of the actions this one person has been committing. if you want to post it up here, so be it. we are still an alliance that aims to be both neutral and anti-pirate, you have found somone within our ranks who does not aim to be either of those things. i do not see how this is groundbreaking. people break the rules, it happens all the time both in RL and in eve, you can choose to deal with it in a civilised manner and attempt to work with us to remove this person from our ranks. or you can post an oversized picture up here and call us all liers. your choice. - Love is the Law, Love under Will
Amy Wang	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:16:00 - [8] Thank you for providing us with a meaningless thread, can I have my bandwith back? Seriously, what is this pic gonna tell us at all?
Rennard Janissaries	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:44:00 - [9] Well i would like to add that Terra Firma team Corp cannot be trusted. Its not that they are pirates, but what they promise/talk and what they do are far different. I have been personally betrayed by them long ago, although then i earned enough money from other ISS to cover my losses.
Deidranna SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:27:00 - [10] bounty and negative sec status says nothing about the pilot being a pirate ... GM Eldini > Hi, behaving are we?
Eldwinn Royal Hiigaran Navy Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:28:00 - [11] Edited by: Eldwinn on 09/12/2006 19:34:04
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:55:00 - [12] Originally by: Deidranna bounty and negative sec status says nothing about the pilot being a pirate ... You must lack in reading skills and figuring out the obvious. Read the chat in the screenshot, then take a guess at what he is doing. Later if you still haven't figured it out yet, I'm sure myself or one of the other pilots who has an IQ higher then that of an asteroid will spell it out for you.
Count TaSessine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:26:00 - [13] I will see to it that the CEO of terra firma investigates this along with someone from ISS Management. Obviously, piracy is against the Charter. Chairman, ISS
Zehn Takakura Caldari terra firma team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:30:00 - [14] Yes allright i shot someone happy? Ok well maybe it was a couple of peeps (more like six heh heh) but two things first- 1) the actions of any one man do NOT reflect that of the ENTIRE (and it is vewy big) alliance, 2) I am about to leave ISS anyway so i was going out with a bang. I was having a bit of fun please get over it and, i might add i am always courtious and polite whendoing what i do; something, which cannot be said for all the threatining (and quite frankly abusive) mails i got. Good Day, Zehn Takakura. Meh
Spoony Brook terra firma team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Zehn Takakura Yes allright i shot someone happy? Ok well maybe it was a couple of peeps (more like six heh heh) but two things first- 1) the actions of any one man do NOT reflect that of the ENTIRE (and it is vewy big) alliance, 2) I am about to leave ISS anyway so i was going out with a bang. I was having a bit of fun please get over it and, i might add i am always courtious and polite whendoing what i do; something, which cannot be said for all the threatining (and quite frankly abusive) mails i got. Good Day, Zehn Takakura. and if you don't beleive that, check his title in the ss. also he got that bounty from one of his previous corpies. still don't beleive me? check in his info in about an hour, the 24 hour period after removing roles will be up.
Zehn Takakura Caldari A New Inspiration	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:34:00 - [16] oh so fweet was from your corp? If truth be told he technically stole from me soooo does that make him any better? Meh
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Zehn Takakura oh so fweet was from your corp? If truth be told he technically stole from me soooo does that make him any better? He took from a can that said Free Stuff, then you ran like a baby when you realized he wasn't a noob.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.10 01:30:00 - [18] Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:31:34 Originally by: Caledric Oh its very neccessary. It lets everyone know what kind of alliance ISS really is. The only reason you want it gone is because your ISS and have no way to refute the fact that you harbor a known pirate. The proof is in the picture, you said provide proof in earlier threads, I have now done so. I'm sorry that ISS has been shown to be a group of liars, but the people must know. Right, so because 1 person in ISS stole from a lootcan in Jita (or whatever), that makes it a pirate alliance. Grow up. Negative security status does not a pirate make. ISS can be judged by how the deal with this person - my guess is that now they know something is up they will kick him ASAP. But they are not a pirate alliance, and one tard does not make them such.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 01:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:31:34 Originally by: Caledric Oh its very neccessary. It lets everyone know what kind of alliance ISS really is. The only reason you want it gone is because your ISS and have no way to refute the fact that you harbor a known pirate. The proof is in the picture, you said provide proof in earlier threads, I have now done so. I'm sorry that ISS has been shown to be a group of liars, but the people must know. Right, so because 1 person in ISS stole from a lootcan in Jita (or whatever), that makes it a pirate alliance. Grow up. Negative security status does not a pirate make. ISS can be judged by how the deal with this person - my guess is that now they know something is up they will kick him ASAP. But they are not a pirate alliance, and one tard does not make them such. "Meaningless words. Show me some evidence. Give me an example of where ISS have INITIATED hostilities on someone who had not fired on them first. Go on, we're all waiting." K you posted that in another thread. So the guy comes back with evidence, but now it's not enough lol. "zomg you have no proof!" "here you go" "zomg i need more!" seriously you're making yourself look stupid Manlove by Zaphod Jones
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.10 04:13:00 - [20] an alt spy does not a pirate alliance make knowledge is power.... guard it well
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.10 05:08:00 - [21] Originally by: insanebe an alt spy does not a pirate alliance make thats a can of BS. there used to be 3-4 ISS members pirating in aunenen by the time the w0mbles were formed and moved in. they were trying to pirate for a week after that but we nailed them aswell as everyone else there. and im betting isk that you can see the same behaviour just about in all the lowsec areas from time to time from alot of ISS members. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.10 07:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: insanebe an alt spy does not a pirate alliance make thats a can of BS. there used to be 3-4 ISS members pirating in aunenen by the time the w0mbles were formed and moved in. they were trying to pirate for a week after that but we nailed them aswell as everyone else there. and im betting isk that you can see the same behaviour just about in all the lowsec areas from time to time from alot of ISS members. wombles lol how long ago was that thought they died years ago knowledge is power.... guard it well
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 08:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/12/2006 01:31:34 Originally by: Caledric Oh its very neccessary. It lets everyone know what kind of alliance ISS really is. The only reason you want it gone is because your ISS and have no way to refute the fact that you harbor a known pirate. The proof is in the picture, you said provide proof in earlier threads, I have now done so. I'm sorry that ISS has been shown to be a group of liars, but the people must know. Right, so because 1 person in ISS stole from a lootcan in Jita (or whatever), that makes it a pirate alliance. Grow up. Negative security status does not a pirate make. ISS can be judged by how the deal with this person - my guess is that now they know something is up they will kick him ASAP. But they are not a pirate alliance, and one tard does not make them such. God you're pathetic... You ask for evidence, then when it is supplied you tell the OP to grow up. Maybe you should stay away from GalNet a few days and grow up yourself ____________ The Priory Killboard
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 09:21:00 - [24] The unsanctioned actions of a few pilots are not indicative of alliance policy and anyone who ACTUALLY believe that should just sit back and think about what theyre saying for a moment. If a member of your corp/alliance went pirate without leaving the alliance, would that make you and your entire alliance pirates? Charter violations are the exception, not the rule. They should be reported to an official ISS management contact. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 11:22:00 - [25] Would love to post a coherent response, but I've got gates to camp. Or perhaps more seriously, every alliance gets rogue pilots occasionally. If we get told about it, we deal with it.
Zehn Takakura Caldari A New Inspiration	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:47:00 - [26] fair nuff, however i did not 'run from him like a baby'; i hate it when people twist ****, i engaged him outside the station and we had a friendly conversation about it afterwards. For once in your god forsaken life STOP hate mongering and get over yourself, this happens in EVE and, if you believe the actions of one-hell it could be 50- people represent the stance of one of the biggest alliances in EVE then you are an idiot, plain and simple. In terms of nutrality ISS are as close as its ever going to come in this game and, as such i belive they can still be called 'neutral' regardless of some small contained incident- you make it sound like there is an alliance wide conspiricy or something sheesh. Meh
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.12.12 01:02:00 - [27] A member of an alliance committing an act of aggression is not anywhere near the same thing as the alliance committing an act of aggression. ISS has what, over a thousand members? The biggest fools are the ones who think that there can't ever be a miscreant.
Exogene	Posted - 2006.12.12 09:32:00 - [28] ISS is known to pirate in low sec, there is nothing new about this...
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.12 12:54:00 - [29] Funny how people can deliver opinions like they are facts...
General Meridus ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.12 16:52:00 - [30] Oh, why God can't we ever be loved? I try sooo hard. sob Please make all the people out there like us. Please? err Sorry, lost myself for a moment. It is a requirement for all prospective pilots of the ISSN, to stand in a line and have everyone throw mud at you. Once past that, you are cleared to read the forums. Now back to my ship, it seems our onetime friends now want our stations.

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