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Posted - 2015.08.19 00:57:12 -
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As always when these threads pop up, nope.
However I would support a US server for US and Pacific players. Conn problems have always been an issue for many players in these parts. It would have been far more lucrative than making that server for China. Will they ever? Doubt it, but more likely than to ever just wipe the existing servers. Why would I doubt CCP would ever make another server? Look at the other games they have made or are making, on limited platforms for a limited player-base. If they put one in the US, it would make EVE less limiting, so won't happen no matter the 1 server marketing PR which they really abandoned when making the Chinese server.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:13:38 -
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Feawen wrote:wouldn't segregating the game make it even more dead though? isn't that an issue we deal with now?
EVE is DyingGäó ?
The server is already fractured, it's not really one server and hasn't been that way for years. A lot of US players don't play due to the distance issues, it can be really bad at times. US time zones PCU is low, it all peaks Europe time. Europe would have the same issues trying to connect to a US/Pacific server. Many in the US are well invested in the London server already, so likely PCU there would not take much of a hit, especially during the regular peak times. BTW, how come I'm getting the feeling this thread is padded with agreeing alts hehe
But yeah, some would play the server since it being a fresh server, though the years of investment on the existing server would keep most on the London server. But overall between the two servers, subscriptions would increase. But like I said, doubt they would ever do it. A wipe would never happen though, CCP could loose a lot of accounts.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:27:03 -
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Scalding Holland wrote:Another server is a terrible idea. What makes eve is that we are all together.
That's hype, especially since we are not all together. I've already mentioned this a couple times. Serenity was a terrible idea, at least for the 1 server hype. Increasing subscriptions and making money is always a good idea. But won't happen.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:48:18 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:How about: NO? Webvan wrote:However I would support a US server for US and Pacific players. Conn problems have always been an issue for many players in these parts. I love hearing Americans complain about lag. You don't know what lag is until you've played on a crappy, Outback Australian internet link. Seriously, cry me a river.
Why, you crying, bro? Don't cryyyy, bro  it'll be alright 
I've played on Aussie servers, and a lot of Aussies play on US/West Coast server, PVP too. It's why I mentioned US/Pacific. It's a hell of a lot better idea than wiping the London server, which would cause a lot of long time players to walk away from EVE for good. Usually though, these suggestion seem to come from people bored with WoW and see EVE as a game they are way behind on so want it wiped for their own enjoyment, at least until the next WoW expansion when they become less bored anyway.
edit: or maybe in this case NC getting whooped as suggested by the CODE guy +1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 03:35:09 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Webvan wrote:I've played on Aussie servers, and a lot of Aussies play on US/West Coast server, PVP too. It's why I mentioned US/Pacific. Yes, a lot of Aussies play on US based servers, mostly because we have very few dedicated games servers in Australia that aren't Counter Strike or Call of Duty. And again, we lag on those US servers horribly compared to the lag you get. We just learn to deal with it.
hmmm... I don't know about that Mr. forum alt. I use to do really well even on dial-up to AUS servers, yes haha mostly playing CS. As for lately, I played a bit of GW2 at launch (since I played GW1) which has it's server in California, and there are a ton of people playing from Australia. A couple in our guild (now deceased guild of course as is the game) and really had no big issues with the server, nothing more than the rest of us had. We'd WvW a lot, they always kept up, maybe they lied and were not really from AUS? Our Pac connections are usually OK, just like I played UO on the Pac server, lots of Australians among the rest.
As for myself, I'm not complaining if that's how you are taking it, but I know a lot of people won't deal with it, especially in a pvp setting. But for some really odd reason, CCP puts a server in China breaking their 1 server thingy, while the money would seem to be in US/Pac. I just see it as a good business move, or would have been, certainly better than a server wipe, Mr. Alt.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 05:46:42 -
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NovaCat13 wrote:Doesn't Serenity exist solely because of politics, not because CCP had no desire to keep the 1 server thing going?
And that's a good business decision somehow? Like I said, CCP seems to go out of the way to hit the small dysfunctional markets with little return on their games (e.g ps3, oculus etc). This is why it never happened, some kind of odd business logic.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:28:56 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:I always suspected the real reason behind the seperate Chinese server was to isolate the gold farming haha too true, has crossed my mind.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:46:38 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:You only reset the game... but not the players mentality/knowledge about the game.
Well that's where mass quantities of alcohol comes into use, I do it pretty often to "reset the game". See? Problem easily solved.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 21:08:28 -
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DaReaper wrote:the only way i would be ok with a rest of eve is if it was via an EVE2.
An f2p contractually exclusive to the mac for the first year with maybe someday a port to PC, PS3 or special android derivative + full VR touch sensitive suit for WiS2? nothx 
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:45:59 -
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Snowmann wrote:That would not be easy. Wouldn't even be hard, more like completely impossible. Players would rage CCP is just trying to milk money for PLEX and AUR. Big alliances would reform in minutes and just become mega powerful while everyone less organized would be vaporized. And anyway, if things changed that much so quickly as you suggest would be the only way, it likely would be awful, as other games have done historically and closed down.
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Posted - 2015.08.21 01:16:07 -
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Lugia3 wrote:The basic elements of the game, like movement, would need a total overhaul or the game would instadie. As of right now, it exists simply because so many people have invested so much time and money and can't quit.
Also, huge preexisting communities like Goons would reform right away. A full reset won't get rid of friendships and communities. It wouldn't be a true reset. Yep, as those alliances with their website membership would not be wiped. It'd take them a day to reorganize and then overwhelm. Meanwhile most corps and some alliances would be in bewilderment for weeks, or just not exist any longer.
Not sure what you mean about movement, if you mean like some people asking over the years for loop-d-loops and point to shoot, that would be broadband only and wind up dropping most players not around the London server. If it were that and a reset, I'd say CCP would be lucky to retain 10% of it's current player-base if even that. They run UDP I'm pretty sure, as most mmo's do as the best protocol for this purpose. Turning up UDP response would just be insane, maybe 200 max in a system. I don't think even tidi could compensate. DUST would probably retain more players than EVE.
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Posted - 2015.08.30 19:29:37 -
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Whitehound wrote:No.
Doing the same thing again and expecting a different outcome would be insane.
The game is a living, changing thing. If you are having regrets then do something different.
I don't think the resetters want a reset for a different outcome, I'm pretty sure they are wanting a repeat on early PLEX prices of ~200m isk so they can play for free with minimum effort. If 90% of the existing players uninstall over it, well a small price to pay for their PLEX.
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:34:04 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Look at gameloft, a mobile developer.
They design mobile games based off console games for the most part, but they have 8 asphalt games and 5 dungeon hunter games.
It seems they know how to milk games in early stages but it doesn't provide a solution for a long term game.
I bought one of their b2p mmo's before. Didn't play it much then uninstalled, mostly because of my poor internet connection back then as a mobile connection wouldn't work for their mobile game. Later reinstalled with a better connection and started playing again, but man was that community terribly toxic! I mean it was just down right nasty. Then I figured out it wasn't b2p any longer but went fully f2p. Uninstalled.
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