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posix4e
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.10 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: posix4e on 10/12/2006 22:48:13
How eve is different from real life.
1) In real life traitors happen, if they get caught, well in this country we hang them. In EVE their is nothing you can do really.
2) In real life you have more queues that someone is a traitor. Visual contact, get a beer withem, etc.
3) People act like psycos online.
This is not to say BOB shouldn't use spies and traitors. It is part of them game. But frankly the use of them at the levels that bob is using them is disturbing. TS spies sure, go for it. Corp spies, that is fine. But clearing hangers, wallet raiding and offlineing towers is beyond out of char. It should make people in this game want to target BOB.
The real issue is that ASCN does not have as strict of rules of recruitment. BOB is taking advantage of those rules because they can. But IMO winning a war this way detracts from the game play, and in that sense out of game it should motivate anyone who is reading this thread to target BOB.
Now here is the point where BOB can't make a rational argument against what I just said, so I will preemempt their ASCN is a bunch of loggofski doing, logon trap making, lag making cowards. It is strict ASCN policy not to do these things. We do cntl+q when we are lagged out, and that's it. I am sure people on both sides cntl+q there pod away if they have expensive clones(Although if you do that in my fleet and i here about it, you wont be happy). I wont even talk about lag making, because BOB admits that they use that part of the game mechanics to there advantage.
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posix4e
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.10 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: posix4e on 10/12/2006 23:58:48
Uhm i am sorry if i came off as complaining. I was merely trying to make the game more fun. I suppose that you are right this game is about space e-peen hax0r fun.
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posix4e
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:25:00 -
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Ok I will try to make my point again, as I wasn't clear.
1) If someone offered you say one thousand dollars (in isk) to burn you eve char, and get a new one, would you do it? No one would know.
2) People online are crazy. Especially young kids
3) Spies and Traitors are part of Eve
4) The purpose of this game for many people is to have fun
5) When you offline towers and clear out corp assets to win a war, what you have done is no more part of the game mechanics then loggofski's/login traps/ etc.. All things not violation of EULA but considered not proper gaming, and frowned upon. In fact BOB has even said this is bad gaming.
Sorry for not being clear.
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posix4e
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.11 00:49:00 -
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I have class and honor. That doesn't mean I wont use spies or traitors. That would be missing the point of what I am saying.
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posix4e
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.11 01:12:00 -
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First off thanks to the constructive post people, namely
Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
I am willing to keep my mind open to the idea that this type of game play should be tolerated by the eve community. In the sense that loggoffski's/ logon traps, etc are not.
TSYND knows quite well about corp thieves, and I am aware of those corps. Thankyou for the useful reference. The problem is not so much the money, I think it is the tactical advantage of gaining foot holds with spies.
1) ASCN didn't have a recent invitee steal from them so all of your recruitment during wartime bad stuff doesn't apply to this thread. It is a seperate point. However, I would like to point out the effects of recruitment during wartime for my corp
a) We have no additional threat due to spies(we know how far we are already owned)
b) We have become stronger as a corp
c) I have hung out with cool people from all over the world, that I would not have if we didn't recruit them.
2) On RL friends. I don't think an alliance like ASCN would have ever done anything interesting if this were the requirements. BTW I would not be able to join any corp as none of my RL friends play eve. Probably no one over 30 would play eve. Does that sound like a good idea, lets limit eve 0.0 to 1% of its current popultion. Bob would say so, but that is because they think that would be a funny comment. Not because they really thought about the future of this game.
3) This type of game play does not add to the game in general. Spies and traitors are cool, until it completely ruins any chance for a decent large war. Frankly if this accepted how many ALliances would believe that there POS managers could wistand me offerening them 2000 dollar bribes and new high sp chars?
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