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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:39:00 -
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 Originally by: The Enslaver
I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought.
I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: maGz
You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations...
The intention has been stated. I'll believe it when I see it tho.
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Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen 
Oh, I see. Should I be expecting a contract offer to hit ISS soon then?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 11/12/2006 10:40:29
Rich, I'm surprised you would even bother with all of this but IÆll reply because IÆve flown with you and respect your abilities in that regard. >3
Originally by: RichThugster
everyone seems to forget that MC is on a retainer to ISS.
Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS.
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So as soon as the pressure starts to get a little too much MC will join.
MC will get involved when my wallet flashes.
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Also selene stop all the talk about IAC hiring MC to strike ISS.
Why? IAC isn't poor. It seems to me though that the option isn't being explored due to personal issues or the perceived bias of MC on this issue.
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even if someone felt the urge to, and had the isk to, i doubt they could come up with a sufficient plan that wouldnt get a response of "sorry no plan no war, besides we have goons to kill, the plan of undocking works so well with them"
Not sure what you mean about the 'undocking' comment. As for the rest, the plan would be pretty easy. This isn't BoB / ASCN / D2, etc... It's IAC and ISS, two medium sized alliances in specific areas of space.
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Also didnt an MC or BOB member admit the war between MC and RAGOONS was a war done for BOB.
If they did then they are talking out of their ass. BoB has absolutely nothing to do with our current contract. I find it amazing that people would think BoB is even involved in this conflict with the mile-long list of others who have a vested interest in the fate of Scalding Pass and the surrounding area.
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due to it not being a paid war and also the fact that between BOB and MC alot of ppl probably have shares, stopping any big ISS assault would come first, over the harrassment of RAGOONS
Oh, we're certainly getting paid, m8.
As for the ISS shareholder question, that's a better one. Just because IAC and your alliance has chosen to walk down a certain path with regard to ISS does not mean that the rest of EVE will rally behind you. It will most likely have the opposite effect, with ISS flexing its financial muscles and calling in friends of their own.
Maybe that's what you guys want: a big fight. Well, I'm sure you'll get it. I do wonder how much of this is just pointless saber-rattling for the sake of a little 'pew-pew' and how much is serious intent to take the ISS stations. If it's mainly the former, I think everyone will have a good time for a while and all will be well. If it's the later, I think the fun factor is going to die very quickly because then it becomes a rather serious matter for several hundred (thousand?) ISS shareholders.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: RichThugster
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Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS.
Now i know either on the MC forums/eve-o forums i have seen either count or a senior member of MC say that MC is on a retainer.
I talk to Count a lot and I respect what he and ISS have tried to do. Maybe you did see something to that effect somewhere, but no such agreement exists as far as myself or the other MC CEOs know.
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I realise MC may care little about who they have to shoot, they shoot who they are paid to, but i dont honestly believe any more ISS eggwarming work will go the way of MC if the MC accepted a contract against ISS.
TBH, egg-warming sucks. Why we've never been hired to KILL an egg is beyond me. 
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With all the 'fighting' talk mynas has been doing id be surprised if there wasnt already a thread on the MC forums asking to come fight down here after the RAGOON war. Would you care to comment on that?
There wasn't a thread about it this morning when I left for work, but I'm sure there will be soon.
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Trying to make a point that MC would reject a contract against ISS. Of course i may be totally wrong, however again imho, i feel a contract wouldnt be taken.
TBH, I think that IAC is stirring the pot for rather dubious reasons, but that's my personal POV. It wouldn't stop me from taking their money tho.
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Whilst station ping-pong is sad and frustrating, taking about 72bil isks worth of assets from pretty much everyone in game would be quite an interesting feat. Whilst unlikely, i do not believe its un-achievable
Agreed.
Right now it's obvious that if ISS feels sufficiently threatened that they probably have the ISK reserves and the political connections to secure MC and any number of other defenders. On the other hand, IAC has proven in the past that they are not to be underestimated either.
All I can say right now is that I think it's going to be a very bloody Christmas for both sides of this. Hopefully someone will finance our way into it. Kill IAC and friends again or shatter the dream of ISS. It's all EVE and all deliciously dramatic IMO. 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lizza Ecktar
Originally by: Seleene
TBH, egg-warming sucks.
Unless it happens to be a FIX egg
I stand corrected!! 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Silvestri
NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time....
Since so many seem stuck on this...
The capital ships had been there for over two weeks weeks in support of UK in 9UY. So had our regular fleet.
On the night of the first strike, our cap ship pilots logged in, undocked and jumped out in less than twenty minutes. Our regular fleet met up with the FIX fleet nearly ten jumps away from the ISS stations.
There was no build up to notice because people were already used to seeing us there and on the night of the attack the ISS systems were not where we assembled.
Lastly, less than ten people in FIX and MC even knew IAC was the target until less than 30 mins before the first cyno went up. Most of our own people assumed we were hitting AXE.
ISS knew nothing.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.12.12 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
IAC knows our place, and our place is shooting ISS.
Simplicity 4TW. 
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