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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:28:58 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Bronson hides behind pre-arranged pvp. I think you're an idiot....but you have my vote for csm lol. Didn't read any of these post as it's long winded noob bs, but I thought I'd share my 2 cents.
oh look its eve's elite undock camper
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada.
608
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:34:16 -
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Lan Wang wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:Bronson hides behind pre-arranged pvp. I think you're an idiot....but you have my vote for csm lol. Didn't read any of these post as it's long winded noob bs, but I thought I'd share my 2 cents. oh look its eve's elite undock camper
Oh look, it's a forum troll and noob. The best undock camper this game has ever seen....far past elite. Number 1 of all time kills in amarr. Check zkillboard today and be jelly.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
14406
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:40:27 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote: It would just save suspect baiters the trouble of having to acquire a flag every 15 minutes.
It'd do so much more than that. It would make it not futile to undock in things that aren't cheap glass cannons.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2465
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:48:03 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Bronson hides behind pre-arranged pvp. I think you're an idiot....but you have my vote for csm lol. Didn't read any of these post as it's long winded noob bs, but I thought I'd share my 2 cents. Thanks for your vote, but I do way more than Thunderdome. 
Check out my corp's killboard sometime. We're small, so it's not all that impressive, but it's a good mix of hisec and losec activity.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1495
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Posted - 2015.09.10 11:55:19 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Lan Wang wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:Bronson hides behind pre-arranged pvp. I think you're an idiot....but you have my vote for csm lol. Didn't read any of these post as it's long winded noob bs, but I thought I'd share my 2 cents. oh look its eve's elite undock camper Oh look, it's a forum troll and noob. The best undock camper this game has ever seen....far past elite. Number 1 of all time kills in amarr. Check zkillboard today and be jelly.
yeah the best because everyone else who tries realises how much of a crappy noobish way to play a game it is :) yeah noob but atleast i dont hang around an undock killing frigs and pods to pad a killboard, maybe try risking something sometime :)
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada.
608
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Posted - 2015.09.10 12:03:59 -
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Don't get mad, get better.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
5327
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Posted - 2015.09.10 13:39:13 -
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punkgirl wrote:I agree with a lot and disagree with a lot also.
I get the feeling you are coming from a pvp background.
Like it or not PVE is a large part of the game and if I couldn't do level 4 missions in hi sec there would be no reason to play I couldn't generate ISk t
It is not possible to run missions in a hostile system without support.
I still like the idea suggested a while back of having npc corp only open for a period of say x amount of months after that the player is auto ejected into NO CORP. and in no corp you would be freely attacakble with out concord police intervention thus forcing you to form a corp or join one.
Something does need doing about npc rookie corp immunity (also let me block them)
Back those ideas and I'll support you to hell and back
I've run L4s in a busy system where anyone could shoot me at any time (cheap killright available).
You most certainly CAN run level 4 missions around dangerous other players without capacity to escalate.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2465
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Posted - 2015.09.10 13:42:33 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Don't get mad, get better.  . This will be my last post on this mega thread of rubbish. Thanks for stopping by, and I appreciate your support.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1497
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Posted - 2015.09.10 13:42:34 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It is not possible to run missions in a hostile system without support.
i run missions in nullsec solo perfectly fine without any support
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2465
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Posted - 2015.09.10 13:51:23 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It is not possible to run missions in a hostile system without support. i run missions in nullsec solo perfectly fine without any support I think you crossed your quotes there....
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1500
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Posted - 2015.09.10 13:58:36 -
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ah yes but i liked doing it because code :) amended 
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2467
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Posted - 2015.09.10 14:09:25 -
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punkgirl wrote:I agree with a lot and disagree with a lot also.
I get the feeling you are coming from a pvp background.
Like it or not PVE is a large part of the game and if I couldn't do level 4 missions in hi sec there would be no reason to play I couldn't generate ISk t
It is not possible to run missions in a hostile system without support.
I still like the idea suggested a while back of having npc corp only open for a period of say x amount of months after that the player is auto ejected into NO CORP. and in no corp you would be freely attacakble with out concord police intervention thus forcing you to form a corp or join one.
Something does need doing about npc rookie corp immunity (also let me block them)
Back those ideas and I'll support you to hell and back
I do primarily PvP now, but I come from a PvE background (several years doing nothing but missions and mining), and I still run missions, pop rats, and do industry to pay for said PvP. I understand that there is a very large core of hisec players who will likely never voluntarily leave hisec, or shoot at another player, and I want to leave New Eden somewhere where they can still do that. I just don't think that they should be able to earn as much while doing it as other hisec residents who are taking more risks.
I think players should still be able to run level 4 missions in hisec, even in 1.0 and 0.9 systems. I just think that doing level 4s in 0.5s and 0.6s should pay more. Risk vs reward.
I used to like the idea of limiting NPC corp membership, but a few folks pointed out to me that if I really support EvE as a sandbox, that means being open to all styles of play, including living permanently in an NPC corp. Keeping with the risk vs. reward theme, since they operate with a higher degree of safety, I feel that members of player corps should be offered more rewards for leaving said safety.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3291
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Posted - 2015.09.10 14:09:42 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote: That's still a ton of alts. And really my point was that for CODE/goons to claim that highsec bears would outnumber them by tens of thousands when there are only 20-30k players on at a time in the entire game is disingenuous at best.
Because the math changes where players you don't like are concerned? Seeing as you want to narrow this to just the players who are online at a given time, we're still vastly outnumbered. Refute that. 
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3196
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Posted - 2015.09.10 18:41:28 -
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But seriously, kill faction navies and facpo. All they do is interfere with pvp situations in which either one or both parties have decided they are either okay with everyone being able to shoot them, or with being straight up at war with another group of players. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada.
608
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Posted - 2015.09.10 19:17:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:But seriously, kill faction navies and facpo. All they do is interfere with pvp situations in which either one or both parties have decided they are either okay with everyone being able to shoot them, or with being straight up at war with another group of players.
I disagree and think you are an idiot. You've been spewing garbage on these forums for years and I think it's time for you to stop embarrassing yourself. Get a life my child.
Edit : last post on this moronic thread, I promise this time. Don't forget also that Thunderdomes are for Tina Turner wannabes.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.10 19:21:09 -
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im actually starting to like holeysheet he really is a lil b!tch 
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2468
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Posted - 2015.09.10 19:25:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:But seriously, kill faction navies and facpo. All they do is interfere with pvp situations in which either one or both parties have decided they are either okay with everyone being able to shoot them, or with being straight up at war with another group of players. I disagree and think you are an idiot. You've been spewing garbage on these forums for years and I think it's time for you to stop embarrassing yourself. Get a life my child. Edit : last post on this moronic thread, I promise this time. Don't forget also that Thunderdomes are for Tina Turner wannabes. I thought you were done here?
HoleySheet1 wrote:Don't get mad, get better.  . This will be my last post on this mega thread of rubbish. I won't hold it against you though. Blame it on the mai tais.
Since you've decided to again grace us with your presence, I'm curious: why exactly do you think that removing FacPo and FacNav is a bad idea beyond thinking that Vimsy is an idiot?
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2469
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Posted - 2015.09.10 19:27:46 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Don't forget also that Thunderdomes are for Tina Turner wannabes. Does that mean that Amarr is only for Empress wannabes? I think you'd look quite fetching in a gown.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
5329
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Posted - 2015.09.11 00:54:35 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote: I think players should still be able to run level 4 missions in hisec, even in 1.0 and 0.9 systems. I just think that doing level 4s in 0.5s and 0.6s should pay more. Risk vs reward.
Just on this - the increased risk of running them in 0.5 and 0.6 is actually pretty minimal. The real danger isn't getting ganked in the mission pocket, it's getting ganked in transit between systems.
So for instance, for a mission given in Vylade (0.8) that sends you to Du Annes (2j away, 0.6), the danger is being shot on the Balle side of the Vylade-Balle gate (Balle is 0.5).
On the flip side, some systems with high positive truesec are quite dangerous to mission in. Dodixie (0.9) comes to mind.
I actually think the correlation between truesec and danger in highsec missioning is quite small.
Now if storyline missions had their rewards buffed but usually occurred in lowsec...
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2470
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Posted - 2015.09.11 01:46:23 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Now if storyline missions had their rewards buffed but usually occurred in lowsec... Ehhh, at this point I'm not about moving existing hisec content to losec.
And I hear what you're saying about relative system safety, but I'm becoming more and more a fan of simple changes, not complex ones. Implementing some algorithm that actually calculate relative risk would be complicated. EDIT: Plus, strictly speaking, Dodixe, is dangerous due to player activity since it is a trade hub, not so much game mechanics.
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Zihao
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
59
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Posted - 2015.09.11 02:11:31 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote: Implementing some algorithm that actually calculate relative risk would be complicated. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but... isn't that exactly what the NPC corp tax rate dynamic you are proposing does? It would have to: calculate the relative risk, assign this a cost, implement a graduated tax rate to compensate?
[bullhorn] Hay Hay, Ho Ho! Those NPC Corps Gotta Go! [/bullhorn] |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2472
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Posted - 2015.09.11 02:49:04 -
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Zihao wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote: Implementing some algorithm that actually calculate relative risk would be complicated. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but... isn't that exactly what the NPC corp tax rate dynamic you are proposing does? It would have to: calculate the relative risk, assign this a cost, implement a graduated tax rate to compensate? [bullhorn] Hay Hay, Ho Ho! Those NPC Corps Gotta Go! [/bullhorn] Go check the OP. I eliminated it.
The people spoke and I listened.
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Zihao
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
59
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Posted - 2015.09.11 05:26:08 -
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Yeah, but the other proposal is just the same principle inverted. Now you're putting a positive risk calculation mechanic in to compensate for being a part of the war system rather than circumventing it.
IMHO your platform of simple reforms is both worthwhile and admirable; however, I think a good deal of said reforms are ineffectual in the face of such simple work-arounds. |

Nighthawk The Assassin
Endurance
1
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:08:10 -
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Nothing but a thread with
"destroy all npc corps, force every one to pvp, make high sec more kill newb friendly"
WTS Clue |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
3303
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:16:20 -
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Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Nothing but a thread with
"destroy all npc corps, force every one to pvp, make high sec more kill newb friendly"
WTS Clue
Your reading comprehension is appalling.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2517
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:18:01 -
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Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Nothing but a thread with
"destroy all npc corps, force every one to pvp, make high sec more kill newb friendly"
WTS Clue "Make Player Corps more profitable, force those who want highest profits to risk more, make more hisec more risk vs. reward friendly"
Fixed that for you.
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Nighthawk The Assassin
Endurance
1
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:38:41 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Nothing but a thread with
"destroy all npc corps, force every one to pvp, make high sec more kill newb friendly"
WTS Clue "Make Player Corps more profitable, force those who want highest profits to risk more, make more hisec more risk vs. reward friendly" Fixed that for you.
"move players out of npc corps into dangerous areas so i can kill them easier"
There, fixed it for you. It's the same ****, u want power, you want CSM and anyone can see thru this rubbish
If u had ur way
Lvl 4's would be in low sec only Kernite/Omber - 0.4 only and below No sentry guns No war dec fee's
You're a pvp pilot, you're not fit to be on the CSM.
Political Science Major here bro, don't even try it.
You want new players to be killed easier than it is at present because you, like EVERY OTHER EMPIRE PVP PILOT are a 100% coward.
Thanks :) |

Nighthawk The Assassin
Endurance
1
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:45:20 -
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Oh and don't spout about "Risk Vs reward"
Because PvP pilots spout this rubbish every time you try to nerf PvE harder and harder
Let's take away your links in high sec, they have to be on field and suspect "No, that's forced game play, you can't do that" - Hmm seem's Risk Vs Reward if u ask me, you risk a t3 to boost to get loot i.e the rewards on your kill.
Funny how these things work isn't it?
You want PvE nerfed, you want NPC corps kicking players out.
How dare you tell me, a paying customer, how to play this game, who the hell do you think you are? You don't have the right, you never did.
So how about if you want PvP like the old days
Remove capitals Remove JB's Remove Entosis
But no, you don't dare do that, then holding regions and null pvp would become super hard, you'd actually have to work to hold regions.
Here's an idea, keep your nose out of high sec and stick it back in null, stop trying to force NEW PLAYERS how to play the game i.e play it how you want them to play it, when you pay for their accounts, then you can spout rubbish, until then
STFU N GTFO because you're full of it |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2003
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:47:20 -
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Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Nothing but a thread with
"destroy all npc corps, force every one to pvp, make high sec more kill newb friendly"
WTS Clue "Make Player Corps more profitable, force those who want highest profits to risk more, make more hisec more risk vs. reward friendly" Fixed that for you. "move players out of npc corps into dangerous areas so i can kill them easier" There, fixed it for you. It's the same ****, u want power, you want CSM and anyone can see thru this rubbish If u had ur way Lvl 4's would be in low sec only Kernite/Omber - 0.4 only and below No sentry guns No war dec fee's You're a pvp pilot, you're not fit to be on the CSM. Political Science Major here bro, don't even try it. You want new players to be killed easier than it is at present because you, like EVERY OTHER EMPIRE PVP PILOT are a 100% coward. Thanks :) Did you use 'bro' and ':)' and liberal use of 'Caps Lock' in any of your papers?
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2003
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Posted - 2015.09.14 23:50:19 -
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Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:Oh and don't spout about "Risk Vs reward"
Because PvP pilots spout this rubbish every time you try to nerf PvE harder and harder
Let's take away your links in high sec, they have to be on field and suspect "No, that's forced game play, you can't do that" - Hmm seem's Risk Vs Reward if u ask me, you risk a t3 to boost to get loot i.e the rewards on your kill.
Funny how these things work isn't it?
You want PvE nerfed, you want NPC corps kicking players out.
How dare you tell me, a paying customer, how to play this game, who the hell do you think you are? You don't have the right, you never did.
So how about if you want PvP like the old days
Remove capitals Remove JB's Remove Entosis
But no, you don't dare do that, then holding regions and null pvp would become super hard, you'd actually have to work to hold regions.
Here's an idea, keep your nose out of high sec and stick it back in null, stop trying to force NEW PLAYERS how to play the game i.e play it how you want them to play it, when you pay for their accounts, then you can spout rubbish, until then
STFU N GTFO because you're full of it Such anger, Much opinion, Many misunderstandings, Wow
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