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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 18:10:25
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'Lord Zap' (m0o):
My advice is Curse Alliance stand up for yourselves, you have as much right as anyone to claim a region. All the other alliances harbour pirate groups so I dont envisage any problems with m0o/Sinister etc being part of the curse alliance. Long live CA!
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Hardin:
Are you saying that m0o and Sinister are still pirate groups Lord Zap?
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'Lord Zap' (m0o):
The CA dont have any choice in the matter, m0o has thought of Curse region as home for a long time. Luckily, we have come to an agreement the details of which I will not explain to you.
So is this just 'Lord Zap' mouthing off... or have they really come to a 'secret deal' with CA to allow them to use CA as a base for their pirating?
If it isn't then someone in CA should certainly gag Lord Zap! Or maybe they 'have no choice in the matter'?
If it is then of course there is always 'denyability'! 
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semp
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:57:00 -
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"So is this just 'Lord Zap' mouthing off... or have they really come to a 'secret deal' with CA to allow pirating again?"
CA dont need to come to any deal with these guys, they have, do and will continue to support pirating.
I myself am please to see m0o back, more Pirates for us to shoot at.
Semp
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 13:16:34
Oh!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this? 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:12:00 -
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We all know that these corporations are currently building up fleets to mather more in combat and can rebuild losses faster, maybe their planning for a large invasion on one of the known alliances like Stain or Fountain. My idea about pirate corporations joining Curse is that they get a safe harbour to build up fleets and mine in peace so that they can once return to grief... erhm pirating.
In exchange for that harbour they have to be good guys for a while... Not a bad deal for curse, or maybe it is.. In the end? Pirates are known for backstabbing their alliance. Space Invaders killed some, i was witness of the incident where a crusaders member was shot down due to Biomass because they grab my corps. (lol).
We will see, time will tell. As long as it gives me battles to fight, and reasons to die for (in the game). 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this?
Glad to know this... I can therefore discount everything this 'Lord Zap' says then as he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Is that right?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:28:00
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this?
Glad to know this... I can therefore discount everything this 'Lord Zap' says then as he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Is that right?
Wish I knew for sure, but that's what the grapevine says. It would be nice to get some kind of official confirmation.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 21/11/2003 14:09:30
m0o is currently a member of CA, we are PvP'ers, griefers if you will.
We never killed for the money, mainly for the sport, we really dont care why we kill as long as we can and being in CA means we get lots and lots of people to hurt ¼_¼
However this does not mean a return to previous ways and we are abiding by all CA rules and regulations like little angels of niceness. 
Zap's comments about other alliances harbouring pirates are perfectly justified, the pirate corp Bloody Hands has now setup home inside Stain, with the full knowledge all the main Stain corps. However not all Stain corps seem to be happy about this as some wont even sell ships to Bloody Hands. Can anyone say hypocrit?
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:07:00 -
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MMM yes....bloody hands. Killed one of those nubs last night. thanks for the skadi and phased moun dampeor!!!
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:15:00 -
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Yawn,
This post is like all the other million and one CA are pirates posts.
ZZzzzz
m0o are being nice boys and girls in Curse.
You guys need to make up a template for your posts. will save you all time.
Mercenary | The Azath |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:41:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:48:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
Fair enough, my eyes tend to glaze over when i see CA and pirates in a thread
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:51:00 -
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I don't see why this would surprise anyone. The Curse Alliance was built by mostly pirates and Muppets that want to bask in their pirate freinds kewl guy glory. The CA continue to support piracy and pirates and deny it to everyone so their non-pirates continue to support them. I could go on and on about it but that pretty much sums it up.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:11:00 -
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Rev stated it nicely in another thread
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Following discussions with the CA council, m0o has decided to join the CA. While we remain a part of the CA we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council. If and when we decide to start removing the scum of the empire from the space lanes again, we will notify and then depart CA space.
So basically they build up forces again, and then someday.. if and when ofcourse they deceide that curse is a bit too boring they will go back at it.
I think its nice of the CA to help them back on their feet, I mean its not like its suprising anyone.. ;)
The Chronicles of Xanadu |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:12:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
Fair enough, my eyes tend to glaze over when i see CA and pirates in a thread
Your not the only one 
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:37:00 -
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the pirate corp Bloody Hands has now setup home inside Stain, with the full knowledge all the main Stain corps.
This just isn't true folks.
Stavros, while I congratulate you for your attempts to catch the unwary and grief in and around Stain (love the guys who bring it to ya) the SA does not support, aid or in any way accept pirate corps such as Bloody Hands in Stain. If I run into one of these guys down there, I'm going to take his ship from him if I can. As would anyone else from EV.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:54:00 -
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To the nice man from everlasting vendetta, if you notice in my post I only said that all corps in stain had knowledge of Bloody Hands present. I even went so far as to say that not all stain corps were happy about it, I guess u guys fall into this catergory.
However I have seen Bloody Hands mining alongside stormguard elite and other stain corps, who seem to have no problems with this apparent U-turn in stain policies.
I can give u the locations of where they mine etc if you wish to purge your region of their presence. Maybe u want to encourage them to remove the *STAIN ALLIANCE MEMBERS* tag from their corp description.
There.. and all without a hint of sarcasm, sometimes I amaze me :P
Staveh!!!
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKKEK
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:02:00 -
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They have the tag "Friends of Stain" which during war time is the only pass to the region we dont shoot. Any corp can grant another friends status and give them mining access to their own parts of the region.
As for them being pirates, I believe they were, as we all know that policy changes from pirate to good aligned has been done, i do not have all the details as I still ned to talk with trigger. However, I do know Trigger told them that any of them with negative security status are not to be in the region until its positive again.
Reguardless of their friends tags negative security status members in stain will be shot down and they understand this.
Civil Deity
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:06:00 -
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hey man no probs, its your region after all..
just wanted some clarification ¼_¼
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Fenring
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Fenring on 21/11/2003 16:37:09
Hmm, interresting very interresting.
Though to be perfectly honest there is very little point, from what I have seen of peoples attitudes so far on these forums, it is often more convient for people to ignore the truth, or in more cases they are lapdogs who simply say "Sir, yes Sir" whenever their puppet masters tell them something.
An example:
"We are not Pirates"
-"Sir, yes Sir!"
"There is always deniability"
-"Sir, Yes Sir!"
"We are defeating our enemies and have more ships, we just dont feel a need for them to leave the stations and fight"
-"Sir, yes Sir!"
(for those of you who didnt realise, I was taking the michael, and couldnt give much less of a damn, afterall I could have been very formal but even then it would not have done much good,
The average lapdog would ask their CEO if this is true, the CEO would then go and ask the puppet master, the puppet master would then tell him that "its all a load of rubbish" and then we get where we are now.
The Day the Mining & Non PVP corporations in CA get involved in their external affairs and diplomacy is the day when CA will not be at war with everyone on their border.
An example of that would have been the GW affair, had CA territory not been so harshly controlled and terrorized by the PvPers for their own amusement, then the GWP might have considered your offer
"The enemy to be feared is the one who wears the face of a friend"
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 17:29:00 -
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Bleh fenrding you sound like a broken record.
If you dont like members of CA, come down and play. Most of us are past the point of caring what other people think of us and our friends.
The Wildlands alliance means nothing to me since i had to get CCP to step in with some of your members RL threats on me.
PS ill be in or around XX9 in 10 mins come play 
Mercenary | The Azath |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 18:12:00
Ummmm Nirvy mate...
You know how we were earlier discussing Lord Zap and m0o and how Lord Zap was just blowing off steam with those original quotes and will not of course be pirating while a member of Curse Alliance...
Can I therefore bring to your attention his latest statement regarding piracy
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Lord Zap:
Of course m0o is a pirate organisation, we were the original pVp corp but I will not let any of our members pirate within Curse or Great Wildlands. That is what we bring to the agreement. As for stainers, venal etc they are game and would be advised to tread carefully.
Now as far as I am aware that sems to state that he views EVERYONE OUTSIDE CA and GWP as legitimate targets for his
m0o's attentions... and yes I can understand Stainer's being targets anywhere as they are at war with you but I can see no legitimate reasons for m0o as a member of CA to be attacking 'venal' and others.
I simply want to flag this up to you so that the sensible CA Corps can take the necessary internal steps to either control Lord Zap or evict him - as I believe pirating wherever it takes places is in direct contravention of your published Curse Alliance constitution!
Maybe you should start asking for references?
CURSE PIRATE HOLIDAY CAMP *Clicky*
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 18:30:00 -
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Also good to see that those "evicted" pirates like Poxie are back in CA corps now ;)
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:00:00 -
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I can definatly say that m0o are back to their old tricks after killin 1 of our Iteron mk5s that was on a deep space mining op in the Providence region.
CA dont pirate .. hah
We clearly werent the enemy and we werent in the warzone, yet they decided to carry on.
Parties involved - Ilyuen / Chromosphere / Decco.
We dont want compensation, we just want to return the favour.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:01:00 -
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I like Lord Zap an wouldn't mind fighting along side him again.
I also heard some other info which is pretty cool for CA but I'm not letting you guys know.
An poxie, I dunno, he was kicked then let back in, an then banned off TS an let back on. He's not in Sin anymore though as Raidek is ****ed at him I believe.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption
Leader of The Black Plague.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 21/11/2003 19:06:00
*shrugs*
This whole Anti CA Forum Warfare buisness bores me now, i resigned my position as the Wildlands contact for the simple reason i find politics more like work than than fun.
I just like flying around Curse blowing my enemies up, and have the occasional Curse vacation to Stain or the Wildlands.
Im sure some other CA member will reply to you more satisfactorily.
But to quote some old film, Quite frankly my dear, i dont give a damn
On a side note i realised the whole CA/SA/FA thing reminds me vaguely of a book George Orwell Wrote called Nineteen Eighty Four
Then again its friday, im tipsy already 
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:13:00 -
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Parties involved - Ilyuen / Chromosphere / Decco
hmm, Ilyuen, didn't you claim that your corp was mainly a mining corp? So that includes blowing up other miners?
Nirvy,
point is, as you say, YOU only attack your enemies.
But some of your alliance members consider everyone not in CA a target anywhere.
And you don't give a **** about it.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 21/11/2003 19:06:00
*shrugs*
This whole Anti CA Forum Warfare buisness bores me now, i resigned my position as the Wildlands contact for the simple reason i find politics more like work than than fun.
I just like flying around Curse blowing my enemies up, and have the occasional Curse vacation to Stain or the Wildlands.
Im sure some other CA member will reply to you more satisfactorily.
But to quote some old film, Quite frankly my dear, i dont give a damn
On a side note i realised the whole CA/SA/FA thing reminds me vaguely of a book George Orwell Wrote called Nineteen Eighty Four
Then again its friday, im tipsy already
Well Nirvy I admit this Forum warfare bores me aswell. I dont see a point to it. The CA are so blatantly obviously supporting piracy, and partially practicing it, that there is really no use in saying it over and over again. I guess the only reason it carries on is that a select few CA members find it necessary to repeat the same old "you have no proof" lines, to make themselves look stupid.
Although this recent event of m0o joining the CA, while pirating outside of Curse is infact yet another piece of irrefutable proof of what I have been saying all along, it isnt really anything "big" anymore since its been screaming in everyones face for ages now anyway.
Im just waiting for the day that Sarkos finally admits his "Constitution" is a big farce, so that I dont have to constantly point it out to him.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:11:00 -
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I could go on and on about it but that pretty much sums it up.
oh.. so is this a switch from your previous policy of going on and on about it? Or is this a "just for this thread" kinda thing?
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:14:00 -
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Rev stated it nicely in another thread
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Following discussions with the CA council, m0o has decided to join the CA. While we remain a part of the CA we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council. If and when we decide to start removing the scum of the empire from the space lanes again, we will notify and then depart CA space.
So basically they build up forces again, and then someday.. if and when ofcourse they deceide that curse is a bit too boring they will go back at it.
I think its nice of the CA to help them back on their feet, I mean its not like its suprising anyone.. ;)
Yay selective bolding! Let me help you out here.
we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council.
So you're pointing out what we've been saying all along and, as our four recent departees indicate, anyone who wants to go back to pirating is free to (and will) leave.
Wow. You must feel kinda silly invalidating the last, what, 6+ weeks of righteous indignation y'all have been spouting. Glad we finally agree on the facts:
- ALL CA members abide by antipiracy council rules, no matter their past
- any who wish to pirate must (and will by choice anyway) leave.
Let me know if there's anything else we can straighten out for ya!
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