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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 18:10:25
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'Lord Zap' (m0o):
My advice is Curse Alliance stand up for yourselves, you have as much right as anyone to claim a region. All the other alliances harbour pirate groups so I dont envisage any problems with m0o/Sinister etc being part of the curse alliance. Long live CA!
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Hardin:
Are you saying that m0o and Sinister are still pirate groups Lord Zap?
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'Lord Zap' (m0o):
The CA dont have any choice in the matter, m0o has thought of Curse region as home for a long time. Luckily, we have come to an agreement the details of which I will not explain to you.
So is this just 'Lord Zap' mouthing off... or have they really come to a 'secret deal' with CA to allow them to use CA as a base for their pirating?
If it isn't then someone in CA should certainly gag Lord Zap! Or maybe they 'have no choice in the matter'?
If it is then of course there is always 'denyability'! 
CURSE PIRATE HOLIDAY CAMP *Clicky* 
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semp
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Posted - 2003.11.21 12:57:00 -
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"So is this just 'Lord Zap' mouthing off... or have they really come to a 'secret deal' with CA to allow pirating again?"
CA dont need to come to any deal with these guys, they have, do and will continue to support pirating.
I myself am please to see m0o back, more Pirates for us to shoot at.
Semp
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 13:16:34
Oh!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this? 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:12:00 -
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We all know that these corporations are currently building up fleets to mather more in combat and can rebuild losses faster, maybe their planning for a large invasion on one of the known alliances like Stain or Fountain. My idea about pirate corporations joining Curse is that they get a safe harbour to build up fleets and mine in peace so that they can once return to grief... erhm pirating.
In exchange for that harbour they have to be good guys for a while... Not a bad deal for curse, or maybe it is.. In the end? Pirates are known for backstabbing their alliance. Space Invaders killed some, i was witness of the incident where a crusaders member was shot down due to Biomass because they grab my corps. (lol).
We will see, time will tell. As long as it gives me battles to fight, and reasons to die for (in the game). 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this?
Glad to know this... I can therefore discount everything this 'Lord Zap' says then as he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Is that right?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2003.11.21 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:28:00
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2003 13:13:17
If I remember correctly Semp is a member of the Curse Coalition (CC), the guys fighting against the CA. As for Lord Zap, I heard a rumor that the account was sold and the person playing Zap now is in over his head a bit.
Will the real Lord Zap please stand up and clarify this?
Glad to know this... I can therefore discount everything this 'Lord Zap' says then as he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Is that right?
Wish I knew for sure, but that's what the grapevine says. It would be nice to get some kind of official confirmation.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 21/11/2003 14:09:30
m0o is currently a member of CA, we are PvP'ers, griefers if you will.
We never killed for the money, mainly for the sport, we really dont care why we kill as long as we can and being in CA means we get lots and lots of people to hurt ¼_¼
However this does not mean a return to previous ways and we are abiding by all CA rules and regulations like little angels of niceness. 
Zap's comments about other alliances harbouring pirates are perfectly justified, the pirate corp Bloody Hands has now setup home inside Stain, with the full knowledge all the main Stain corps. However not all Stain corps seem to be happy about this as some wont even sell ships to Bloody Hands. Can anyone say hypocrit?
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:07:00 -
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MMM yes....bloody hands. Killed one of those nubs last night. thanks for the skadi and phased moun dampeor!!!
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:15:00 -
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Yawn,
This post is like all the other million and one CA are pirates posts.
ZZzzzz
m0o are being nice boys and girls in Curse.
You guys need to make up a template for your posts. will save you all time.
Mercenary | The Azath |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:41:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:48:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
Fair enough, my eyes tend to glaze over when i see CA and pirates in a thread
Mercenary | The Azath |
Scragg
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Posted - 2003.11.21 14:51:00 -
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I don't see why this would surprise anyone. The Curse Alliance was built by mostly pirates and Muppets that want to bask in their pirate freinds kewl guy glory. The CA continue to support piracy and pirates and deny it to everyone so their non-pirates continue to support them. I could go on and on about it but that pretty much sums it up.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:11:00 -
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Rev stated it nicely in another thread
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Following discussions with the CA council, m0o has decided to join the CA. While we remain a part of the CA we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council. If and when we decide to start removing the scum of the empire from the space lanes again, we will notify and then depart CA space.
So basically they build up forces again, and then someday.. if and when ofcourse they deceide that curse is a bit too boring they will go back at it.
I think its nice of the CA to help them back on their feet, I mean its not like its suprising anyone.. ;)
The Chronicles of Xanadu |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:12:00 -
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Glad to hear from Stavros and u Nirvy that m0o is being 'nice' in CA and abiding by all your non-pirating rules...
And no thread isn't the usual - CA = Pirates thread.
It started with a question... which was 'Are you pirates or is Lord Zap just mouthing off?
It has been made clear that you are not pirates and therefore Lord Zap was we presume talking crap about the 'CA having no choice in the matter' and intimating that m0o were still pirating.
I just needed the clarification. I have no axe to grind with CA...
Fair enough, my eyes tend to glaze over when i see CA and pirates in a thread
Your not the only one 
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:37:00 -
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the pirate corp Bloody Hands has now setup home inside Stain, with the full knowledge all the main Stain corps.
This just isn't true folks.
Stavros, while I congratulate you for your attempts to catch the unwary and grief in and around Stain (love the guys who bring it to ya) the SA does not support, aid or in any way accept pirate corps such as Bloody Hands in Stain. If I run into one of these guys down there, I'm going to take his ship from him if I can. As would anyone else from EV.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 15:54:00 -
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To the nice man from everlasting vendetta, if you notice in my post I only said that all corps in stain had knowledge of Bloody Hands present. I even went so far as to say that not all stain corps were happy about it, I guess u guys fall into this catergory.
However I have seen Bloody Hands mining alongside stormguard elite and other stain corps, who seem to have no problems with this apparent U-turn in stain policies.
I can give u the locations of where they mine etc if you wish to purge your region of their presence. Maybe u want to encourage them to remove the *STAIN ALLIANCE MEMBERS* tag from their corp description.
There.. and all without a hint of sarcasm, sometimes I amaze me :P
Staveh!!!
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKKEK
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Civil Deity
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:02:00 -
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They have the tag "Friends of Stain" which during war time is the only pass to the region we dont shoot. Any corp can grant another friends status and give them mining access to their own parts of the region.
As for them being pirates, I believe they were, as we all know that policy changes from pirate to good aligned has been done, i do not have all the details as I still ned to talk with trigger. However, I do know Trigger told them that any of them with negative security status are not to be in the region until its positive again.
Reguardless of their friends tags negative security status members in stain will be shot down and they understand this.
Civil Deity
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:06:00 -
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hey man no probs, its your region after all..
just wanted some clarification ¼_¼
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Fenring
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Posted - 2003.11.21 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Fenring on 21/11/2003 16:37:09
Hmm, interresting very interresting.
Though to be perfectly honest there is very little point, from what I have seen of peoples attitudes so far on these forums, it is often more convient for people to ignore the truth, or in more cases they are lapdogs who simply say "Sir, yes Sir" whenever their puppet masters tell them something.
An example:
"We are not Pirates"
-"Sir, yes Sir!"
"There is always deniability"
-"Sir, Yes Sir!"
"We are defeating our enemies and have more ships, we just dont feel a need for them to leave the stations and fight"
-"Sir, yes Sir!"
(for those of you who didnt realise, I was taking the michael, and couldnt give much less of a damn, afterall I could have been very formal but even then it would not have done much good,
The average lapdog would ask their CEO if this is true, the CEO would then go and ask the puppet master, the puppet master would then tell him that "its all a load of rubbish" and then we get where we are now.
The Day the Mining & Non PVP corporations in CA get involved in their external affairs and diplomacy is the day when CA will not be at war with everyone on their border.
An example of that would have been the GW affair, had CA territory not been so harshly controlled and terrorized by the PvPers for their own amusement, then the GWP might have considered your offer
"The enemy to be feared is the one who wears the face of a friend"
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 17:29:00 -
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Bleh fenrding you sound like a broken record.
If you dont like members of CA, come down and play. Most of us are past the point of caring what other people think of us and our friends.
The Wildlands alliance means nothing to me since i had to get CCP to step in with some of your members RL threats on me.
PS ill be in or around XX9 in 10 mins come play 
Mercenary | The Azath |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 21/11/2003 18:12:00
Ummmm Nirvy mate...
You know how we were earlier discussing Lord Zap and m0o and how Lord Zap was just blowing off steam with those original quotes and will not of course be pirating while a member of Curse Alliance...
Can I therefore bring to your attention his latest statement regarding piracy
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Lord Zap:
Of course m0o is a pirate organisation, we were the original pVp corp but I will not let any of our members pirate within Curse or Great Wildlands. That is what we bring to the agreement. As for stainers, venal etc they are game and would be advised to tread carefully.
Now as far as I am aware that sems to state that he views EVERYONE OUTSIDE CA and GWP as legitimate targets for his
m0o's attentions... and yes I can understand Stainer's being targets anywhere as they are at war with you but I can see no legitimate reasons for m0o as a member of CA to be attacking 'venal' and others.
I simply want to flag this up to you so that the sensible CA Corps can take the necessary internal steps to either control Lord Zap or evict him - as I believe pirating wherever it takes places is in direct contravention of your published Curse Alliance constitution!
Maybe you should start asking for references?
CURSE PIRATE HOLIDAY CAMP *Clicky*
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 18:30:00 -
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Also good to see that those "evicted" pirates like Poxie are back in CA corps now ;)
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:00:00 -
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I can definatly say that m0o are back to their old tricks after killin 1 of our Iteron mk5s that was on a deep space mining op in the Providence region.
CA dont pirate .. hah
We clearly werent the enemy and we werent in the warzone, yet they decided to carry on.
Parties involved - Ilyuen / Chromosphere / Decco.
We dont want compensation, we just want to return the favour.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:01:00 -
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I like Lord Zap an wouldn't mind fighting along side him again.
I also heard some other info which is pretty cool for CA but I'm not letting you guys know.
An poxie, I dunno, he was kicked then let back in, an then banned off TS an let back on. He's not in Sin anymore though as Raidek is ****ed at him I believe.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption
Leader of The Black Plague.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 21/11/2003 19:06:00
*shrugs*
This whole Anti CA Forum Warfare buisness bores me now, i resigned my position as the Wildlands contact for the simple reason i find politics more like work than than fun.
I just like flying around Curse blowing my enemies up, and have the occasional Curse vacation to Stain or the Wildlands.
Im sure some other CA member will reply to you more satisfactorily.
But to quote some old film, Quite frankly my dear, i dont give a damn
On a side note i realised the whole CA/SA/FA thing reminds me vaguely of a book George Orwell Wrote called Nineteen Eighty Four
Then again its friday, im tipsy already 
Mercenary | The Azath |
dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:13:00 -
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Parties involved - Ilyuen / Chromosphere / Decco
hmm, Ilyuen, didn't you claim that your corp was mainly a mining corp? So that includes blowing up other miners?
Nirvy,
point is, as you say, YOU only attack your enemies.
But some of your alliance members consider everyone not in CA a target anywhere.
And you don't give a **** about it.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 21/11/2003 19:06:00
*shrugs*
This whole Anti CA Forum Warfare buisness bores me now, i resigned my position as the Wildlands contact for the simple reason i find politics more like work than than fun.
I just like flying around Curse blowing my enemies up, and have the occasional Curse vacation to Stain or the Wildlands.
Im sure some other CA member will reply to you more satisfactorily.
But to quote some old film, Quite frankly my dear, i dont give a damn
On a side note i realised the whole CA/SA/FA thing reminds me vaguely of a book George Orwell Wrote called Nineteen Eighty Four
Then again its friday, im tipsy already
Well Nirvy I admit this Forum warfare bores me aswell. I dont see a point to it. The CA are so blatantly obviously supporting piracy, and partially practicing it, that there is really no use in saying it over and over again. I guess the only reason it carries on is that a select few CA members find it necessary to repeat the same old "you have no proof" lines, to make themselves look stupid.
Although this recent event of m0o joining the CA, while pirating outside of Curse is infact yet another piece of irrefutable proof of what I have been saying all along, it isnt really anything "big" anymore since its been screaming in everyones face for ages now anyway.
Im just waiting for the day that Sarkos finally admits his "Constitution" is a big farce, so that I dont have to constantly point it out to him.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:11:00 -
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I could go on and on about it but that pretty much sums it up.
oh.. so is this a switch from your previous policy of going on and on about it? Or is this a "just for this thread" kinda thing?
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:14:00 -
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Rev stated it nicely in another thread
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Following discussions with the CA council, m0o has decided to join the CA. While we remain a part of the CA we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council. If and when we decide to start removing the scum of the empire from the space lanes again, we will notify and then depart CA space.
So basically they build up forces again, and then someday.. if and when ofcourse they deceide that curse is a bit too boring they will go back at it.
I think its nice of the CA to help them back on their feet, I mean its not like its suprising anyone.. ;)
Yay selective bolding! Let me help you out here.
we agree to refrain from pirating and follow the rules laid down by the CA council.
So you're pointing out what we've been saying all along and, as our four recent departees indicate, anyone who wants to go back to pirating is free to (and will) leave.
Wow. You must feel kinda silly invalidating the last, what, 6+ weeks of righteous indignation y'all have been spouting. Glad we finally agree on the facts:
- ALL CA members abide by antipiracy council rules, no matter their past
- any who wish to pirate must (and will by choice anyway) leave.
Let me know if there's anything else we can straighten out for ya!
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:16:00 -
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There.. and all without a hint of sarcasm, sometimes I amaze me :P
sorry man, but i think this
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Maybe u want to encourage them to remove the *STAIN ALLIANCE MEMBERS* tag from their corp description.
disqualifies you
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 21/11/2003 20:23:50
The first EV dude said:
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SA does not support, aid or in any way accept pirate corps such as Bloody Hands in Stain.
then the second EV dude said:
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They have the tag "Friends of Stain" which during war time is the only pass to the region we dont shoot. Any corp can grant another friends status and give them mining access to their own parts of the region.
Every time Scragg opens his mouth with his CAoP spin, i suggest you remind him that you are the SFoP. I'm sure you can figure out what that stands for, there's a good lad.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.21 20:50:00 -
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They have the tag "Friends of Stain" which during war time is the only pass to the region we dont shoot. Any corp can grant another friends status and give them mining access to their own parts of the region.
As for them being pirates, I believe they were, as we all know that policy changes from pirate to good aligned has been done, i do not have all the details as I still ned to talk with trigger. However, I do know Trigger told them that any of them with negative security status are not to be in the region until its positive again.
Reguardless of their friends tags negative security status members in stain will be shot down and they understand this.
What complete crap. They edited their description completly. It use to say member of stain alliance. I pointed this out to dalman a few days ago and got the typical no response. Also, I personaly witnessed more than one Bloddy Hands guy with a -9.7 sec status deep in stain.
As for the fact taht they arent pirates anymore, I laugh. You railed on the CA and claim that Sinc and Red Corsairs cant change. I guess its different when the shoe is on the other foot, ehh?
Where are the CC muppets telling Stain they need to remove the pirates from their territory? Silent, and why? Because, they are stupid hypocrites too busy licking the jack boots of the hypocrites of the south.
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.11.21 22:30:00 -
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What complete crap. They edited their description completly. It use to say member of stain alliance. I pointed this out to dalman a few days ago and got the typical no response. Also, I personaly witnessed more than one Bloddy Hands guy with a -9.7 sec status deep in stain.
actually quite a few non SA corporations started putting "Member of Stain Alliance" in their description. what can we do to stop someone from doing that other than to ask them to change it? nothing... the mistake was caught, maybe even thanks to you, and fixed.
the individual you are probably refering to is billy bob. yes, he was in stain. we actually kept him IN STATION with a 2 battleship guard detail while other elements fought with the CA. the reason? he was not supposed to be in stain at the time... simple as that.
there is no need to justify why bloody hands has been given access to our region. they are/will not be participating in any battle along side the SA, and they will not be pirating while in or near the Stain region. m0o was once given access to Stain, did they ever help us or aid us in any way? no. it is called politics gentlemen.
really the whole debate about the CA being pirates stems from one fact: they claim to no longer be pirates, yet CONTINUE pirating. i think the CA stopped pirating for a good month some people may being to change their mind about them, but the fact is their actions are speaking louder than their words at the current time.
those "special" people can continue to paint SA as pirates, but the fact is no one has tried harder to get an organized, dynamic list of corporations in EVE with a rating system next to them. most of the time questions are asked before shooting when an unknown corporation enters the area. i say most of the time because no one is perfect, mistakes do happen. that being said, anyone in a noob corp that comes into stain will be shot due to the fact that most are spies and 99% of them are flying a frigate (easily replaceable).
excuse me hardin for hijacking the thread, was not my intention. just an effort to help clear the waters a little a provide a statement on some issues from the SA point of view. with that ill get back on topic...
with the return of The Reverend (almost positive that it is really him) to m0o i do not think they would recreate m0o with Lord Zap as a member unless he too was the original owner. as far as i understand it Stavros, The Reverend and Lord Zap all know each other somewhat, whether they met before or after they started playing this game. (correct me if im wrong). so, the claim that Lord Zap isnt really him and therefore ignore him, should be considered false.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.21 22:46:00 -
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No, it wasnt Billy Bob. Looking back on my screenshots I see it was Nitro G. He had a -9.8 sec status and a 4 mil+ bounty.
I'd love to know where CA members are still pirating. Care to give details?
So in short, its ok for SA to have ex-pirates and harbor them, but you use the same thing as a tactic to smeer CA and label us pirates as a justification to continue your wars of expansion.
Where is Scrag and other CC members when you need them? I don't see them expressing their righteous indignation about Stain harboring pirates. Why? Because they are hypocrites.
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Scaramouche
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Posted - 2003.11.21 22:52:00 -
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What goes around.......
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.11.21 22:54:00 -
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No, it wasnt Billy Bob. Looking back on my screenshots I see it was Nitro G. He had a -9.8 sec status and a 4 mil+ bounty.
I'd love to know where CA members are still pirating. Care to give details?
So in short, its ok for SA to have ex-pirates and harbor them, but you use the same thing as a tactic to smeer CA and label us pirates as a justification to continue your wars of expansion.
Where is Scrag and other CC members when you need them? I don't see them expressing their righteous indignation about Stain harboring pirates. Why? Because they are hypocrites.
Ok lets start from the top...
Where are they pirating? Everywhere outside of Curse basically...
We are not "harboring" them. Get your fact straight. I said they were allowed to travel through Stain. In no way are we protecting them or giving them aid in either way. I am not going to give out the details and the background concerning the reasons for allowing them to be non-KOS in Stain, mainly because it is a moot point.
we criticize CA for BEING pirates. while i agree that allowing bloody hands to pass through Stain looks bad, it really has nothing to do with the CA. we are doing fine keeping you out of stain despite the 13 vs 42 odds.
bloody hands havent conducted pirate activity in or around Stain, so really no one has anything to fear except the pirate fleets from the Curse Alliance.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Scaramouche
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:19:00 -
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Good innit when nobody wants to listen?
What goes around......
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:35:00 -
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Actually moo didnt shoot that indy, I did. We assumes we were attacking a mining op in catch but the system you were mining was in providence, wich we didnt notice untill much to late(system before it was still catch).
Guess you can't make an omelet without breaking an egg.
Attacking us in curse was very foolish though.
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Ar'leich Grade
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Posted - 2003.11.21 23:52:00 -
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I can definatly say that m0o are back to their old tricks after killin 1 of our Iteron mk5s that was on a deep space mining op in the Providence region.
CA dont pirate .. hah
We clearly werent the enemy and we werent in the warzone, yet they decided to carry on.
Parties involved - Ilyuen / Chromosphere / Decco.
We dont want compensation, we just want to return the favour.
The CA are pirates, this situation is past the point of deniabilty.
When on the battlefield, if you try not to let others take the lead and have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, then you will not fall behind others, your mind will become fierce, and you will mainfest martial valor. Furthermore, if you are slain in battle, you should be resolved to have your corpse facing the enemy. |
Lord Morgoth
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Posted - 2003.11.22 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Morgoth on 22/11/2003 03:38:38
Do you guys have nothing better to do that pick over old issues again and again.
1. Lord Zap, The Reverend and Stavro's are all the orginal players back from the dead.
2. CA has a charter, it states who is shootable and where and who is not and where. That charter is followed by all CA members. m0o is a member of the CA. At sometime in the future m0o may not be a member, such as Everlasting Vendetta are a member of Stain, at some point in the future, they may see sense and strike out on thier own. When this happens the CA charter will no longer apply.
3. m0o is with CA, its a relationship that began well before CA began, m0o were one of the first corps to live in Curse, CA have accepted us into Curse and we have agreed to abide by its rules in return.
4. Lord Zap, like many m0o members past and present, takes roles plays a killer. Freedom of speech is something this corp prides itself on. We don't have directives stating what can and cannot be released in public. We aren't run like the majority of corps in EVE and this seems to confuse the rest of you.
5. CC are a bunch of corps that refused to join CA when CA moved into system, the only reason we hear so much about them is because they spend so much time logging off or running to stations that they need to do something to feel like being part of the game.
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semp
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Posted - 2003.11.22 11:09:00 -
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"5. CC are a bunch of corps that refused to join CA when CA moved into system, the only reason we hear so much about them is because they spend so much time logging off or running to stations that they need to do something to feel like being part of the game."
Very cute, and i hope to see you in-game very soon. Your days of livng on your reps are over...
Semp
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Sabrina Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.22 15:29:00 -
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I think m0o is great and hope they rearm quickly!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.22 20:01:00 -
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This is so funny, the Russians are comming (back) and several new corporations joins the CA. What happens, SA gets toasted.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:15:00 -
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Quote:
This is so funny, the Russians are comming (back) and several new corporations joins the CA. What happens, SA gets toasted.
And Skillz makes a post like usual.
Heh, it's 13 corps vs 42 corps.
And we deal more damage to them than they do to us.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Graffix
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Posted - 2003.11.22 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Graffix on 22/11/2003 22:38:50
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However I have seen Bloody Hands mining alongside stormguard elite and other stain corps, who seem to have no problems with this apparent U-turn in stain policies.
Bloody Hands appearance in Stain was as much as a shock to me and my corp mates as it was to many other SA corps. We were even more surprised when we found them stationed in our system. Thrown for a loop we waited until we heard more from our CEO and from Trigger and co. During that time we kept to our daily buisness, and a corp mate who had been away for a day or two was not informed on the current events and podded a Bloody Hands member she ran into. I might add Svetlanna felt quite bad afterwards once she was caught up on recent events.
We have never mined alongside Bloody Hands, but currently do share a system in which they can NPC hunt if they wish. After some time our CEO learned more about Bloody Hands and the tasks the corp has to abide by to eventually become a member of the Stain Alliance, whos tag misprint was brought to attention the 1st day we noticed them in our system. After hearing from Trigger and his reassurance of the matter, SGE has no objections to Bloody Hands current presence in Stain. As long as Trigger is happy, SGE is happy 8)
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.11.22 23:26:00 -
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Coincidentally, the status of Bloody Hands in Stain has now been changed. The need for them to enter into the Stain region is now over. SA has not made an agreement with Bloody Hands of any sort and you will no longer see them in Stain Alliance space under a white banner.
For this moment forwrd, all Bloody Hands members are KOS (kill on sight) in the Stain region and surronding areas.
Once again, the SA leadership does not expect the community to understand the circumstances behind the week of cease fire between Bloody Hands and the SA, nor do we expect anyone to accept them. This post, and those before it, was informative information so the people of New Eden could remain up to date on the situation in the Stain/Catch region.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 23/11/2003 00:19:55
Hmm, you first grant bloody hands the status of 'Friends of Stain' and then you sell them out?
Remind me of never having anything other than laser theraphy with you.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 23/11/2003 00:21:44
ok so u say CA are pirates k...
but stain accepts pirate corps for a week, lets em mine and then says that they cant disclose the reasons for it....
but thats totally cool, yeah... right... k...
Sarcasm? Whats that?
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Graffix
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:48:00 -
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It's amazing what goes on while at work. Anyhow, I get home and Bloody Hands are now KOS if not out of stain by tomorrow. I don't know the whole details, been working but I'm told they were mining where they shouldn't and among other things upset Trigger. They have already left Stain.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:26:00 -
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Oh, of course. That must be the whole reason and the only reason why they woulden't be welcome.
I'm so dumb that I diden't see that it was the only reason. I want to belive and now I'll just go and end myself (tm)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:46:00 -
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Bloody Hands was never a SA member, nor were they "friends of stain". the actual agreement was a travel pass for one week. we did not sell them out, they knew the full details.
as for mining, if that did happen (which i doubt in any serious manner) it was stopped right away. they were not there for mining at all. i can only assume they were passing time while they were in stain under the agreement.
but please keep on spinning... its enjoyable to see what u guys come up with. as i said in my last post, we arent trying to explain anything... just informing. if you cant handle that, then its your problem.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.23 10:49:00 -
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Just curious, exactly where do you go it you "travel through" stain? Does it take you to an alternate reallity where everyone is carebears and not ebil pirates?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.23 16:37:00 -
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Traveling through Stain. Yes, Reclaimer, you end up in a place where there are only mining lasers, teletubbies but the catch is that all you mine is gone. Right into some CEO's hangar that sells stuff on Ebay.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Yuen
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Posted - 2003.11.23 16:50:00 -
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Quote:
I'm so dumb
First and only intelligent thing Skillz ever said... he's back, worst than before... lool
at last one good laugh again reading his idiotic posts ;)
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.23 17:00:00 -
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Yuen, a war vote on your corporation has been issued. So watch your industrials in northen Khanid and central systems go into a trillion pieces.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.24 04:10:00 -
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Traveling through Stain. Yes, Reclaimer, you end up in a place where there are only mining lasers, teletubbies but the catch is that all you mine is gone. Right into some CEO's hangar that sells stuff on Ebay.
Yep, its Stain home to the ultimate carebears. They are 0.0 carebears, lol.
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Yuen
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Posted - 2003.11.24 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Yuen on 24/11/2003 12:39:13
Skillz, my little child, look under these lines and let us know if you can see some strange signs called LETTERS. It's the form the humankind uses to communicate in places like this one. Each little sign, combined with others, gives to the whole bunch of little signs a meaning, and this bunch is called "WORD". After, you take some WORDS and put them together to make a PHRASE, a more complicated thing that enables you to explain more difficult things. If you want we can continue this lessons in private, of course I will inform you about my fee, but you'll be free to decide to go to the public school anyway...
Now, read under this lesson, consider it your first homework:
Quote:
*Disclaimer: This post is provided by my fertile mind, it should be not my Corp point of view*
Let me know if you can understand something, so I'll be able to understand your level and prepare some personal lessons for you.
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 24/11/2003 16:26:54
I don't acknowledge your disclaimer of 'Fertilized Mind'. You and your corp are going to have to walk the talk.
Legionari Corporation gets sucked into this, because I say so and not you.
Remeber, we make the rules, not you. (tm)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:48:00 -
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Sorry, I find it hard to believe someone from M00/CA telling me Lord Zap, and Starvos are the original players. The new ebay players post completely different from how they wrote in the past. Also, Lord Zap did not waste his time explainning stupid crap to whiners.
"You know, if you say a lie 1,000 times it becomes the truth" - Bill Clinton.
Chart, rules and posts do not compare to a person's actions and reputation. Sinister, M0o et al, made their bed now they will have to sleep in it. Its time to quit lying to yourselves, it wastes too much of what little brain power the tards have left. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!
Be Proud of who you are!! The Curse Alliance of Pirates!! LONG LIVE CAP!!!
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.24 17:04:00 -
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Quote:
Sorry, I find it hard to believe someone from M00/CA telling me Lord Zap, and Starvos are the original players. The new ebay players post completely different from how they wrote in the past. Also, Lord Zap did not waste his time explainning stupid crap to whiners.
"AHHAHAHAHAHH U SUX KTHXBYE" - Stavros 2003
The 3 orginal m0o currently in game are all original members, but sadly we really couldnt care what u think k?
Actually I think maybe that we could be genetic clones, with memory transplants.. yeah so that would explain how we all talk the same on teamspeak and still have all the same msns... yeah.... OMG THEY ARE WATCHING YES ARRGHA THEY ARE WATCHING ME THE MEN IN WHITE COATS ARARARGHARGHAR! EEEEP!!!
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.24 17:27:00 -
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Indeed. Seems to be the original players.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Xen0
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Posted - 2003.11.24 18:05:00 -
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So begins, the m0o wars!!!
Xen0- Pirate against all pirates, <---don't ask me, no one informed me of this.....
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.11.25 13:34:00 -
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just a question where did ywev go??
is he comming back to
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Xen0
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Posted - 2003.11.25 16:05:00 -
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Ywev took a long leave, he will not be coming back. Tekforce has control over ywevs account now. and Tek left too, So I think stav has it now, who knows. Like it matters really.
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2003.11.25 17:07:00 -
[66]
Wasn't Stavros the guy who started that big thread about how he was quitting, or was that Zap?
Welcome back to the best game going, regardless.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.25 18:42:00 -
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Ok... Here is a complete list of all the known m0o members, what happened to them and what they are doing now... Just for you guys cos uncle Stavveh wubs u so much (in a non-ghey way of course).
j0rt = Quit and gave all his ships and equipment away although never sold his acc.
Zap = Quit never gave anything away or sold acc, is now back.
Gauss = One of the first to quit, never sold anything or gave anything away.
Rev = Has like 20million accounts, is now back with all of them.
Stavros = Took a 1.5month break, is now back.
Ywev = Left game and gave his account to the corp, Tekforce got it, rumoured to be returning sometime :P
Tekforce = Quit and sold both his and ywevs accounts to a 3rd party.
Axelay = Quit ages before anyone else and sold his account.
Err thats about it I think....
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.25 18:54:00 -
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Yuen, 23 hours to
yarr
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Yuen
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Posted - 2003.11.26 00:14:00 -
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rofl
Jokers
Jokers : Outnumbered !
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.11.26 08:17:00 -
[70]
Quote:
Ok... Here is a complete list of all the known m0o members, what happened to them and what they are doing now... Just for you guys cos uncle Stavveh wubs u so much (in a non-ghey way of course).
j0rt = Quit and gave all his ships and equipment away although never sold his acc.
Zap = Quit never gave anything away or sold acc, is now back.
Gauss = One of the first to quit, never sold anything or gave anything away.
Rev = Has like 20million accounts, is now back with all of them.
Stavros = Took a 1.5month break, is now back.
Ywev = Left game and gave his account to the corp, Tekforce got it, rumoured to be returning sometime :P
Tekforce = Quit and sold both his and ywevs accounts to a 3rd party.
Axelay = Quit ages before anyone else and sold his account.
Err thats about it I think....
ahhh thanx for clearing that up...
personaly i would want everyone back that ever played eve not just you guys.. but you tend to give it alittle more touch then any other so first hand all of you
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.11.28 17:03:00 -
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We wub you too uncle Stavveh  |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.11.29 01:21:00 -
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anally? or non penetraice?
LOLLERSKATES!
tehehh!
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.29 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 29/11/2003 02:44:50
Well we all now that CA is just a whole bunch of rats (we could also say they have low recruiting requirements), I'm just adding one or 2 little things for people not to forget that they are rats and nothing else:
1/[ 2003.11.28 23:12:42 ] Lord Zap > send me isk otherwise i will blow up your cargo container
[ 2003.11.28 23:12:56 ] Lord Zap > there is over 700 crockite in it
[ 2003.11.28 23:13:12 ] olyyy > how much?
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:18 ] Lord Zap > 1.5 mill
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:30 ] Lord Zap > and i will let you come collect your container
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:33 ] olyyy > waow o.o
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:43 ] olyyy > sure u don't wanna refine the ore yourself? :)
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:53 ] Lord Zap > no
[ 2003.11.28 23:14:59 ] Lord Zap > 30 secs and counting
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:04 ] Lord Zap > u gonna pay?
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:05 ] olyyy > well then blow it up man
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:12 ] olyyy > i don't have 1.5 M isk for u
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:16 ] Lord Zap > ok
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:21 ] Lord Zap > haha u r poor
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:38 ] olyyy > no, it's just not a good plan giving 1.5M isk to a rat
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:40 ] Lord Zap > bye bye container
[ 2003.11.28 23:15:50 ] olyyy > cya in another life container
Well personnaly i'm not working to pay rats' ships, well i mean i work only to pay mine
2/I've been having some troubles with a bunch a frigates in assah from Endless corporation (part of CA)... I was quietly mining in assah:
[ 2003.11.25 22:56:45 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Gomati)
[ 2003.11.25 22:56:45 ] (notify) Your are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled.
[ 2003.11.25 22:56:45 ] (notify) Kryton [TEC] has started trying to warp scramble you.
[ 2003.11.25 22:57:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to Kryton hits you, doing 360.0 damage.
Well in those case, you don't have much time to react 'cause you know that the 3 other people are already warping =)
5 drones appeared replacing the harvies and teached a lesson to the bad guy, thorax had a little refitting in station then came back to belt, was too far from them took a bookmark to can then went to stargate, and back to belt. Next step, 3 frigs shot down and going home in a pod. (fear the drones)
As for stain and Curse, they hate each other, so they just have to make a little war, it'll change them from spinning on forums =)
We should be carefull claiming that CA are rats, maybe we'll see Eve Marshalls launch a thread against CA and then outnumber them on forums
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.29 12:11:00 -
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So what's the virdict? Are we pirates now, or are we along the lines of the other alliances?
Everytime I read this topic, I get confused. My CO's tell me that we aren't pirates and that we'll get purged for pirating, yet the forums say that we are.
God damnit people, throw me a bone here.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.29 13:10:00 -
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FA> GIVE US 1 mil per day or die
Whats the differnce I ask?
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