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Cpl Felix
Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:33:00 -
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aight ya, i might get flamed for this,but i realllly think it should get its 7th turret back or get more PG/CPU cuase otherwise its just an overpriced piece of crap for solo PVP, cuase Drake's got those missiles bays, and can be effectively be used as a solo PVP ship, i think that the hurricane either needs the 7th turret, or needs more powergride or CPU, do SOMETHING to imporve it, i feel like its underpowered for a ship in its class
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Jongo Fett
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jongo Fett on 12/12/2006 21:34:34 have u seen how overpowered it is...ive seen the vagacane in action and its a evil beast
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Epidemis
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:35:00 -
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Giving it a 7th turret slot will simply make it up to par with the other ship, a major no-no.
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Comrade Ivan
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:35:00 -
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no actually i havent, i mean if u have T2 guns then its more or less good, otherwise its not that great goin against a drake or something
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John117MGS
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:36:00 -
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sure if the harbinger can have its 8th turret back to restore its symmetry. 
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Cpl Felix
Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:39:00 -
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ok well look, drake 7missile turrets, if u put 7 T2 heavy launchers, vs T2 artys on a hurricane, drake takes the win anyday...its just no comparison
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Agnar Koladrov
Gallente Hurricane Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Agnar Koladrov on 12/12/2006 21:44:13 I`d rather have a base speed increase and a mass decrease, as those are both the same as on the Cyclone. PS all tier2 BC show this, which is rediculous. ________________________________________________
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Darpz on 12/12/2006 21:54:18 lets see:
6xDual 180 IIs 2xAssualt Lanuchers MWD Web Disrupter Injector 2xMAR 1600mm plate 2xEAN 1xGyro.
yeah your right it needs a boost 
the Hurricane is supposed to be a Rupture on Steriods and it fits that roll well
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Infinitynexus
Astrodynamic Innovations
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:52:00 -
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Yea the hurricane is a friggin beast :)
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:54:00 -
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Yeah, exactly, Darpz. It's an amazing ship. OP - get some missile skills. _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.12 21:54:00 -
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Hurricane is definitely not underpowered compared to the other BC. It doesn't work too well as an artillery platform, just put on autocannons and a solid tank, it works better at solo pvp than a drake (puts out more damage and tanks better).
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.12.12 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 12/12/2006 22:05:20 All the t2 BC's are beasts, they dont need any buffs at all. To be honest i think they did a very good job with them.
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d'hofren
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cpl Felix ok well look, drake 7missile turrets, if u put 7 T2 heavy launchers, vs T2 artys on a hurricane, drake takes the win anyday...its just no comparison
Anything beats arty in a one on one fight. Go back to autocannon setups for solo work or gang with drake pilots, fit arty and steal all the kill mails as the drakes missiles lazily wander over to the target.
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:34:00 -
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well if you look at the ship by ship drake gets all 7 msl hards and gal get not just 7 gun hards w/ sigifigant drone bay.
so, would i like 7 turrets hards on my hurricane? of course i would. But does it NEED it? I think any one that has actually used this ship in pvp would say no, it seems to be doing its job just fine.
honesty ftl, but hey. maybe they will reward my honesty on this ship by improving the one that really does need looked at: Maelstrom
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:35:00 -
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Only the Myrmidon is allowed to be uber, sorry.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Imhotep Khem
Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:16:00 -
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It has more practical uses as an armor tanker, but its no better than the Cyclone. Its supposed to be Tier 2... ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

eaglerare
GalacTECH Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.12.14 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cpl Felix aight ya, i might get flamed for this,but i realllly think it should get its 7th turret back or get more PG/CPU cuase otherwise its just an overpriced piece of crap for solo PVP, cuase Drake's got those missiles bays, and can be effectively be used as a solo PVP ship, i think that the hurricane either needs the 7th turret, or needs more powergride or CPU, do SOMETHING to imporve it, i feel like its underpowered for a ship in its class
I disagree, even with 6 I find it a pwnmobile and one of the best ships in the game. Its almost the power of a hac for medium charge.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Bamar Hurricane is definitely not underpowered compared to the other BC. It doesn't work too well as an artillery platform, just put on autocannons and a solid tank, it works better at solo pvp than a drake (puts out more damage and tanks better).
hmm with 720 II sensor boosters, tracking computers, rcu and Gyros is quiet insane, 6x720II deals quiet a good alpha strike against cruisers or Frigs, so u can take it as a arti platform but then but 720 II on it and forget the tank :)
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Nicholai Pestot
Gallente Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:09:00 -
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Boost the hurricane? But its got two damage bonuses already.
Oh hang on, its out damaged by the myrm.
Well, never mind, it can have a dual-rep tank and just out last its opposition.
Oh, wait, the myrm can do the same thing and has a repper bonus.
Well, its got a lot of midslots, im sure that makes it equal
Oh, no, look at the myrm again...my mistake.
Those last two non-turret points let it win in a nos-war right?
No, silly me, the myrm can use 3 nos and still out-damage and out-tank it.
But its fast right?
Yep, that tiny speed difference lets it (slowly) out-race the myrm so it can get outside scramble range and warp out \0/ yay.
Wait, was i arguing against or for the 7th turret on the 'cane?
Cross training minmat and gallente ftw  ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete |

Comanche Banshee
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:13:00 -
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The hurricane with it's double bonus is basically a mini-tempest, only faster and smaller. There is no way this thing is the "under-powered piece of crap" as you say it is, and it CAN win a fight believe it or not regardless of what you might think or the stats say.
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Nicholai Pestot
Gallente Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholai Pestot on 14/12/2006 10:24:59
Originally by: Comanche Banshee The hurricane with it's double bonus is basically a mini-tempest
So you need 25 million sp to beat a pilot with 5 million sp in a droneboat of the same size? yep, identical ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete |

Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Edited by: Nicholai Pestot on 14/12/2006 10:24:59
Originally by: Comanche Banshee The hurricane with it's double bonus is basically a mini-tempest
So you need 25 million sp to beat a pilot with 5 million sp in a droneboat of the same size? yep, identical
well a t1 blasterthron would only need 7 million ;)
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2006.12.14 11:49:00 -
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To the ones that think its not underpowered. Just say.. why would someoen fly a hurricane in place of amyrmidon (considering that you have skills equal to boh ships)...
No comparisson. Myrmidon has more damage, more tank, more nos more utility . Hurricane needs the PG back or a speed boost to make the only option available now (the vagacane) a true viable one (15ms would be enough). If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |

Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 13:49:00 -
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rofls.... when i read hurricane whine... u ppl are soo clueless who say it sucks... thats soo funny
first.. artillery on hurry... big NONO its a AC boat... u can PWN the living crap out of stuff whit that ship... and one good setup was allredy posted...
its a ruppie on steroids and its a awesome ship... minni whiners should buy a clue sometimes... no all of ur ships are broken. Sleip, rupture, phoon, hurricane, jag, wolf, ceptors, rifter... all of those ship are VERY good and can beat the crap out of stuff if u setup right. sure it taks alot of SP but if u have the SP u are allredy ahead of other races in some departments.
id love to have minni skills :)
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Draycar Hazaran
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.14 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Riho rofls.... when i read hurricane whine... u ppl are soo clueless who say it sucks... thats soo funny
first.. artillery on hurry... big NONO its a AC boat... u can PWN the living crap out of stuff whit that ship... and one good setup was allredy posted...
its a ruppie on steroids and its a awesome ship... minni whiners should buy a clue sometimes... no all of ur ships are broken. Sleip, rupture, phoon, hurricane, jag, wolf, ceptors, rifter... all of those ship are VERY good and can beat the crap out of stuff if u setup right. sure it taks alot of SP but if u have the SP u are allredy ahead of other races in some departments.
id love to have minni skills :)
WE ALREADY HAVE THIS. See Cyclone. Yea, the Cyc gets a tanking bonus, but it's the same deal as a Rupture otherwise.
The Hurricane is not supposed to be an AC boat, it's meant for artillery, but taking away the last turret kinda kills that idea...
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2006.12.14 14:53:00 -
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Exactly! Hurricane is not an AC boat.. its an ARTI boat trhe rupture as well was supposed to be one.. look at the minin to get the clue... If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |

Horza Otho
Minmatar Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:06:00 -
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/signed.
I use 6x 220 II 2x abalest hvy 1x mwd 1x fleetin web 1x j5 20k 1x medium elecrochem 2x MAR II 2x eanm II 1x pseudo 1x gyro II or summat
and tbh... it kills hacs but can barely contend with a myrd/drake. It would benefit from another gun tbh. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine |

Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:10:00 -
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...if your worried about a drake while using long range try a rocket launcher or two with defencders to try and null a missile or two from the volley and you will do more damage or, just use heavy missiles yourself and get boosted damage that way. I would like to see the current dps for ac/art for the hurricane to see what kid of difference that would be then also a dps for all of the teir two against a: shield of[0/60/40/20] [60/10/25/45 : caldari stats as they have the highest player pop] Using their best ammo
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tough Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Draycar Hazaran
WE ALREADY HAVE THIS. See Cyclone. Yea, the Cyc gets a tanking bonus, but it's the same deal as a Rupture otherwise.
The Hurricane is not supposed to be an AC boat, it's meant for artillery, but taking away the last turret kinda kills that idea...
You and I are clearly playing completely different games if you think the Cyclone is the same deal as a Rupture. Regaurdless of what you have convinced yourself of, the Hurricane has far more in common with the Rupture than the Cyclone, period.
Now I'll get back on topic and give you folks my .2 isk. No the Hurricane does not need another turret hardpoint. Imo the tier2 BCs are already way over the top as far as ballance goes. The gap between tiers in the BC category seems completely out of whack when compared to the gap between tiers of other t1 ships classes (Cruisers and Battleships for example). Imo the only tier 1 BC that will remain usefull for pvp is the Brutix and this is only because the Brutix is clearly the best tier1 BC for pvp(pre patch ecm cyclone was good). What I'm trying to get at hear is that I think that these ships arguably need a nerf, not a buff.
On a similar note think of what has happened to the usefullness of t1 cruisers with the implementation of the BC agility buff and the introduction of these new BCs. BCs handle almost as well as cruisers lock almost as fast as cruisers and bring MASSIVE amounts of firepower and survivability when compared to cruisers. Maybee this says more about cruisers than BCs however I don't think giving the hurricane a 7th turret is going to help the problem that I see.
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Seishomaru on 14/12/2006 15:17:06 He issue is.. arties are quite efficient on Hurri . Like I am able to fight a mirmi with 650mm ones while spinning at around 15 km from him (if hgis droens get too close i web and my drones kill them with help of assault launchers). But it takes LITERALY forever to kill his tank.. at least until he gets our of boosters. with a 7th turret this type of tactic would be possible
matar is a firepower race.. hurricane is a firepower boat. It shoudl have the best or near the best dps while lacking on other areas.
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