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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: SolApathy on 13/12/2006 16:00:57
Originally by: Monkey Spankah D7-ZAC
PA had fallen again, F-E underpreasure from the five decided to NAP and join agaisnt G/IRON, a combined gang of over 300 people and about 10-20 capitals many were part of the CCP event team. we downed alot of POS's that nigth and the next day was full of Iron and G OMG NO FAIR posts.
i think what else needs to be included is the fact the next day iron/g mustered like 50 man osprey gang and put all their pos back at 100% only when bob invaded EC did they leave the region and this spawned the OMG OE is G alts posts
edit: typo 
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thetwilitehour
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:45:00 -
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This is a cool idea in my opinion, and I love the alliance map, I set it as my background despite not really fitting right, but in addition to marking player important sites on the map I hope CCP at some point incorporates them into the game itself. Permanent titan wrecks, debris strewn battlefieds and other such (destroyed outpost eggs perhaps) could be sites that show up via a setting on the f10 map, as well as being incorporated into future Cosmos missions. That would be fairly cool player driven content to me.
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:30:00 -
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Joshua,
I think that instead of adding things like that to the actual map background (so to speak), you might just want to add a tempoary flag for events as they happen.
For example, the Titan kill would mean that the next map that is published will have a Flag on that system for that map only, describing that event.
You could backdate your maps if you so chose, so go through them and add events on the maps that when they happened.
Not sure what would count. My suggestions are: massive fleet battles, station losses, station seiges, major cap ship losses, major doomsday firings, etc. This would help casual observers like myself much better see how wars are progressing rather than just seeing the map turn first into diagonal lines then into a different colour.
Examples: Titan loss shows as a flag on the system it happened in. The 1V- seige shows as a flag including in the notes the deployment and use of LV's Titan. The loss of 00YZ-G shows as a flag on that system.
I know this isn't exactly what you were going for in the OP and it might not be feasible, but just throwing out my suggestion.
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Deva Blackfire
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:38:00 -
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From new ones? XZH and goons struggle foe the system surely. It was a bloodbath that took over a month to finish and there were usually 300+ kills per day during whole war.
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:21:00 -
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Personally I found this useless...i think the more interessting thing we can do its a historical database of all great events of the capsuler alliance till 2003 at this day!
Like the Firts galatic war against Ca, the GNW,the spread of destruction by the Five, the Rise of Bob, etc etc
its a Better idea than to pollute the map of 300000000 events stuff.....in the worse case do a second map for this Joshua!
my 8 cents!
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Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 13/12/2006 21:29:13
Originally by: Sir JoJo the VV-V fleet battle.. 4 hours straight up fighting...
was IMP-SUPR BOS and Black reign vs 3FA and JQA if remember corectly..
imp and crew jumping in on 2 fleet sat on each side then battle rage for hours and in the end IMPand crew hold the gate..
i still see that battle as the most epic fleet battle ive been in.. due to the heavy numbers the almost lag free fight compared to these days.
Seconded.
JQA and 3FA (and later just JQA) against many ex-CA corps, with some Xetic pilots thrown in on the JQA side near the end. I think there were three fleet battles in total that took place in VV.
I'd also suggest the Mara-Passari gate, because of the legendary m0o blockade that took place there in early 2003. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:31:00 -
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Pointing out landmarks on the map is a good idea Josh, but in my few months experience the icons end up cluttering the map. I'm studying for finals atm, so my apologies in advance for restating ideas that have been posted elsewhere.
What I would suggest is that after you take everyone's suggestions for this thread, you perhaps start a side project into making an atlas of sorts (as has already been suggested elsewhere) and keeping all non-territorial information there. This would include chokepoint markers, historic battles, outpost markers, etc. It's ultimately up to you but with the advent of more constellation-based territorial claims, detailed information could prove to be a hassle.
Another half decent idea that was posted was to make historical maps of specific regions or clusters of regions showing the change in ownership over a certain period of time (such as the South central/west spitting from SA/Xetic/CA into the smaller alliances in control of it today.
I'm not sure how much effort you'd actually want to put into making a historical atlas, but as has been mentioned it might be worth partnering up with someone knowledgeable in Flash for some of the more dynamic maps.
Just my two cents, back to slaving over my textbooks.
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TylerJames
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:38:00 -
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I think what would make this a really worthwhile project is if CCP would actually create landmarks in space with an option to read the story of what took place in that spot by clicking on it. It would definitely need to be an "epic" event, but it would take player driven content to a new level.
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Archonon
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:41:00 -
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U-Q/OSHT Great fleet battles during the CA/SA war HLW former CA capital "Cache region" RA fortress (2 years that ppl're trying to take it down without success)
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:45:00 -
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now this event was way before my time, so bear with me. but didnt a guy from m0o build the first BS (a domi i *think*) and they used it, and many other ships, to camp a choke system for days upon days until the GMs eventually teleported him out of the system. at least thats what i'm led to believe.
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Ed Demakis
The Greater Goon The OSS
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Posted - 2006.12.13 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ed Demakis on 13/12/2006 21:52:04
Originally by: Beringe Edited by: Beringe on 13/12/2006 21:29:13
Originally by: Sir JoJo the VV-V fleet battle.. 4 hours straight up fighting...
was IMP-SUPR BOS and Black reign vs 3FA and JQA if remember corectly..
imp and crew jumping in on 2 fleet sat on each side then battle rage for hours and in the end IMPand crew hold the gate..
i still see that battle as the most epic fleet battle ive been in.. due to the heavy numbers the almost lag free fight compared to these days.
Seconded.
JQA and 3FA (and later just JQA) against many ex-CA corps, with some Xetic pilots thrown in on the JQA side near the end. I think there were three fleet battles in total that took place in VV.
I would third VV-V as not just an epic event, but location. Right about 1 year after the VV-V event you are discussing, Goonfleet and BOS had a couple epic days fighting BRS and company in that same system. Those that had been at both events said they were eerily similar.
while Syndicate is mostly considered a horrible region, it has it's history and key system which appears to be VV-V |

Alia Ursul
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 22:28:00 -
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Many of the occurances I have fought in - but one that stands out in my mind with a fight in JU- in the North. Was one of the few times I saw a Dread fight in a heavy fleet engagement. Shrike in his revelation and one Minmatar Dread (The Fiddler?) standing off a good size fleet at the jumpgate. Drones galore. Carnage. Lots of Carnage.
There have also been a few in game events - that are harder to place on the map. The roque Jove in Stain (?). The Miner 2 bpo treasure hunt ... and others. To live is to game - in some way
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The Fiddler
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alia Ursul .............one Minmatar Dread (The Fiddler?) standing off a good size fleet at the jumpgate................
Was not me. That Dread went down so it could only be Bizzare
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00tricky
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 22:48:00 -
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As much attention as it received mid-year, the FRIK Can Shark would seem a valid entry in such a map.
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 01:20:00 -
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I would prefer that the political map of Eve not be cluttered by tourist attractions, which surely belong on a separate sightseeing map of Eve.
/sm
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.12.14 01:44:00 -
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Bulletholes in the Sarum Prime gate since Tank CEO camped it for what was it, a year?
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.14 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus Bulletholes in the Sarum Prime gate since Tank CEO camped it for what was it, a year?
He didn't camp a gate though ;P.
It was fun fighting in Sarum and Atlar and the rest of those systems but the reason they were camped was because of a very badly broken game mechanic.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.14 02:20:00 -
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5P-AIP: First outpost (minnie) constructed 0OYZ-G: First amarr outpost constructed (i believe) GHZ-5J: First Caldari outpost constructed KDF-GY: First Gallente outpost constructed AZN-D2: First titan unveiled ---------------------------------
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roBurky
StateCorp
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Posted - 2006.12.14 03:19:00 -
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Limit markers on the main territorial map to recent events, maybe save historical markers for a seperate map. ---
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.14 03:19:00 -
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the ec-p8r siege of the trust outpost.
i still dont think anything has topped that for sheer numbers
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Oliver Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.14 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd - Add the faction "capitals" Pator, Amarr, erm, can't remember Caldari and Gallente. And Yulai for Concord.
Gallente is a tricky one. While the Gallente homeworld, Gallente Prime, is in Luminaire (along with Caldari Prime and a monument above it) the President's offices are in obscure 0.3 and 0.4, where no sane president would keep them. :)
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Elisca Black
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.14 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Elisca Black on 14/12/2006 03:43:46 6NJ the last great BLOB and stand of the mighty pheonix alliance. + CHRISTMAS two years ago.
Massive fleet battles in in that 0.0 gateway system south of d7-zac. I litterally had a 2-3 CONSTANT fleet battle everyday. BEST EVER.
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Once upon a time, roaming gangs of ATUK, EVOL, RKK, BNC converged on h-pa to smash an incoming T-P-S fleet. Dian the n00000b.
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Zajo
The Corporation Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.14 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Emrod Personally I found this useless...i think the more interessting thing we can do its a historical database of all great events of the capsuler alliance till 2003 at this day!
Like the Firts galatic war against Ca, the GNW,the spread of destruction by the Five, the Rise of Bob, etc etc
its a Better idea than to pollute the map of 300000000 events stuff.....in the worse case do a second map for this Joshua!
my 8 cents!
I think you mean something like this?
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Bombcrater
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 04:19:00 -
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I think there should be a seperate map for this, to avoid cluttering the political map too much. And rather than just a flat bitmap it should be a image map on a web page with each location linking to a page on the Eve history wiki (when one exists for that event, of course).
I'll second the people who mentioned the D2/YW/RZR vs Goons/SMASH war in XZH. The sheer intensity of that conflict was mind boggling, a complete and utter bloodbath. Hundreds of ships died, day after day, for weeks on end.
G/IRON vs F-E/5. in D7-ZAC also deserves a mention because of the bizzare (and ultimately futile) intervention of the events team's dreadnoughts.
The EC lockdown by BoB and friends is a good candidate, too. |

Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.14 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe Edited by: Beringe on 13/12/2006 21:29:13
Originally by: Sir JoJo the VV-V fleet battle.. 4 hours straight up fighting...
was IMP-SUPR BOS and Black reign vs 3FA and JQA if remember corectly..
imp and crew jumping in on 2 fleet sat on each side then battle rage for hours and in the end IMPand crew hold the gate..
i still see that battle as the most epic fleet battle ive been in.. due to the heavy numbers the almost lag free fight compared to these days.
Seconded.
JQA and 3FA (and later just JQA) against many ex-CA corps, with some Xetic pilots thrown in on the JQA side near the end. I think there were three fleet battles in total that took place in VV.
Thirded, though there were actually only two battles that took place in VV-, first week of January 2005. On the third day Xetic were gone again, but JQA and 3FA were reinforced by NORAD and FA fleets instead. However ex-CA didn't show up there that evening, instead clashing with NORAD on their own in FD-MLJ later that night.
/Ben
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LTD THOR
Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.14 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: dj lightning 1st dread killed \o/
E02- in Great Wildlands
was a good job dj.. the movie (incl. your clear voice ) showed me that i jumped into our own bubbles before i died. had horrible lag before i was starting to enjoy my afterlife, hehe.. i think if the first wreck of a titan becomes a monument, the first DN loss in EO2 should become a wreck monument also - retrospectively. what do you mean? 
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.14 08:35:00 -
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I'm not planning to add every single major event that ever happened. We have a history wiki for that. Only 3/4 things really pop up so far, first outpost built, first titan loss, first public outpost built and maybe the EC-P8R siege due to the underlying reasons and the fact that it caused (or seemed to) the formation of D2.
A few other major fleet battles where mentioned but the majority where quite a long time ago wouldnt really be all that useful to mark (Ie the GNW).
Keep on rolling in the suggestions though.  -----
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Unfamed II
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.14 11:02:00 -
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1V-LI2 - Most successful DD activation so far. GB-6X5 - Most nodecrashes during one battle (dunno if it holds anymore) Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
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Gothikia
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.14 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I'm not planning to add every single major event that ever happened. We have a history wiki for that. Only 3/4 things really pop up so far, first outpost built, first titan loss, first public outpost built and maybe the EC-P8R siege due to the underlying reasons and the fact that it caused (or seemed to) the formation of D2.
A few other major fleet battles where mentioned but the majority where quite a long time ago wouldnt really be all that useful to mark (Ie the GNW).
Keep on rolling in the suggestions though. 
Even tho it was a while ago i wouldn't count out the GNW.......
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.14 11:51:00 -
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I think the first Dread used in pvp was G vs IeeX when we where in SA. We came in with a small gank squad consisting of 4 ravens 1 scorp and 1 ceptor to their system (the one with a 10/10). We had been scouted 2 jumps out so we had only the space crickets for company and we sat at the gate. Suddenly a phoenix warped in to us. We promptly started shooting. Had him to quarter shield and we thought "wtf we are gonna kill a dreadnaught" when suddenly he was at full shield again. Seconds later 2 naglfar landed next to him and we did a tactical advancement backwards :P
At least i havent heard of any dread pvp prior to that.
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