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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:11:00 -
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Well CCP attempted to have a lot of people in one system. Sadly like EVERY online game it was to much for one system to handle. But at least they had enough courage to give it a try. Now they know in the future they have to limit attendance for events like this. They made a rather quick change tot he event plans i'd have to say and still gave people the chance to listen in. Get over yourselves people if you expect perfection then your completly off your rocker. Kudos to CCP for at least given it a try. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Lord Slappy
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:16:00 -
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Quote: Well CCP attempted to have a lot of people in one system. Sadly like EVERY online game it was to much for one system to handle. But at least they had enough courage to give it a try. Now they know in the future they have to limit attendance for events like this. They made a rather quick change tot he event plans i'd have to say and still gave people the chance to listen in. Get over yourselves people if you expect perfection then your completly off your rocker. Kudos to CCP for at least given it a try.
kissing asses won't get you a tech2 blueprint anymore...
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:21:00 -
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ignorant, come up with something better. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:32:00 -
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EQ nodes go offline at like 200 people, the Amarr node was near 300. This wasn''t so bad, not bad at all.
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EveJunkie
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:50:00 -
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What i find hard to understand is why we have such large scale events at all. I'd be happier to see 7 small events a week rather than 1 large event every few months.
By small events i mean like 50 people involved not half the Eve universe. If we had more frequent events folk wouldnt all stampede to try to take part.
Events shouldnt try to include everyone otherwise they just end up letting folk down.
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2003.11.23 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Al Thorr on 23/11/2003 00:59:46
Quote: Well CCP attempted to have a lot of people in one system. Sadly like EVERY online game it was to much for one system to handle. But at least they had enough courage to give it a try. Now they know in the future they have to limit attendance for events like this. They made a rather quick change tot he event plans i'd have to say and still gave people the chance to listen in. Get over yourselves people if you expect perfection then your completly off your rocker. Kudos to CCP for at least given it a try.
Hmmm again they already knew the limitations of the saftware ./... Just look at the highway congestion
The courage to give it a try = complete ineptitude. good grief man get a grip the program is flawed and they have known it from day 2
Would you trust a pilot on a passenger plane you were on, to do a mach 3 dive from 47k feet even tho he knew it was imposssible but "Hey lets give em credit for giving it a try"
Where is the Apology?
Cummon guys every credit for trying to apologise!!!!!!!
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Leniera
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:11:00 -
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Ok, i'm sorry for turning up to the event |
Darzerb
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Posted - 2003.11.23 01:37:00 -
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Quote: EQ nodes go offline at like 200 people, the Amarr node was near 300. This wasn''t so bad, not bad at all.
The amarr node topped out at 220 I thought. ------------------
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kurg
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:24:00 -
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Quote: What i find hard to understand is why we have such large scale events at all. I'd be happier to see 7 small events a week rather than 1 large event every few months.
By small events i mean like 50 people involved not half the Eve universe. If we had more frequent events folk wouldnt all stampede to try to take part.
Events shouldnt try to include everyone otherwise they just end up letting folk down.
yes with the current stability it would work much better, also many small events would add much more content to the universe than few large ones
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Tabius
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Posted - 2003.11.23 02:40:00 -
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Quote: Well CCP attempted to have a lot of people in one system. Sadly like EVERY online game it was to much for one system to handle. But at least they had enough courage to give it a try. Now they know in the future they have to limit attendance for events like this. They made a rather quick change tot he event plans i'd have to say and still gave people the chance to listen in. Get over yourselves people if you expect perfection then your completly off your rocker. Kudos to CCP for at least given it a try.
I wish I could agree with you, but I can't sadly.
I build web applications for a living. Some of the top web architectures in the world. And the first, number one, primo, rule of thumb is... don't attempt to deliver something that you haven't tested.
I have to say that when I started heading for for amarr this morning, I thought to myself...."There's Sure going to be a lot of people there... I hope it can handle the load" And then I said to myself.... "No way, CCP would never have even hinted at an open ceremony without doing load-testing on Chaos. That would be completely stupid..."
Here's another axiom .... "It's better to overdeliver on a low expectation, than to screw up on a promise."
Giving Kudos to CCP for failing is just a lie.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:20:00 -
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If CCP were to say 'this event is only open for 50 people' the outrage would be just as bad.
I got some nice screenies though, and spent several minutes orbiting people with my MWD's locked on. (apologies to the couple of people I constantly rammed, I couldn't stop it)
And for all the people who thought this was the actual 'event', sorry, it wasn't, it was merely the closing ceremony of a bigger event.
I doubt they expected so many people to turn up to a prizegiving, tbh.
Luckily for the event, the lag negated any chances of sabotage .
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:26:00 -
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"I got some nice screenies though, and spent several minutes orbiting people with my MWD's locked on. (apologies to the couple of people I constantly rammed, I couldn't stop it)"
I got some great screenie of tech.3 Concord battleship. And got to see the Reverend in a Probe (i think) chased around by a Thorax :s
(the closing event was rather nice itself... well after they made everyone shut up, anyway --;;
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:32:00 -
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Quote: I got some great screenie of tech.3 Concord battleship.
No CCP no CONCORD IS ALREADY GOD!
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Bargler
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:52:00 -
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Load Testing.
They had to know it wouldn't hold up to 500 people in one system. What they did not know, is when it would exactly break.
So, they can ask people to help them with a load test, everyone cries "Paid beta!!!!" and nobody shows up. Or they can lure everyone to one spot with this "ceremony".
Everyone is still going to scream "Beta!" but at least this way they got some data.
Bargler
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2003.11.23 03:56:00 -
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Quote: What i find hard to understand is why we have such large scale events at all.
It wasn't intended to be a 'real' event, or as large scale as it turned out.
The planners (who did a remarkable job with the tournament) figured this would be a nice way to publically recognize the winners, with a little fanfare. There was no reason to think that 400 people would attempt to go watch.
--- Lead Event Producer Hobbes The Aurora Project |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.23 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 23/11/2003 04:11:00
"There was no reason to think that 400 people would attempt to go watch."
... a) People are asking for any new content, so the rumors about new ships making appearance would pique the interest of quite a few. b) last 'event' held in Amarr, the vigil thingie, attracted ~200 people iirc which resulted in similar game performance... and it was organized by players, with no mention of any new game content. c) The highways allow pretty much everyone even vaguely interested in the event to reach the destination in few jumps, so there's no reason for anyone not to attend...
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Qandor
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Posted - 2003.11.23 09:00:00 -
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Quote: EQ nodes go offline at like 200 people, the Amarr node was near 300. This wasn''t so bad, not bad at all.
What are you drunk? I guess the bazaar zone is never up then since it has 200 to 600 people 24 hours a day.
Great being a fanboi but when you start making things up it is just sad.
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Rizzy
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:20:00 -
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Is it such a big deal ?
Does the event that never happened make you cry like babies so much ?
If so please go, i prefer not to share the game i love with little kiddies spitting the dummy :)
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:23:00 -
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If they did not know it was going to end the way it did, then maybe they should employ someone that could have worked it out.
Like EVERYONE that has ever run online game before, if all these posts are to be believed.
However it is clear other online games do manage mass gatherings better and know how to handle them. When this is pointed out people start bleating about how the comparison is not fair because these games have been running for years and they bring extra processing power to bear on the issue.
Well excuse me, when I go to the shops I do not invent the wheel and wait around for someone to invent to car before I go. I just get into the car someone has already designed for me.
Kudos to CCP for organising an event that brings part of Eve down. We are joking right?
It might have been an interesting experiment for them if they had a back up plan of how to deal with ever increasing numbers and keep the system up and running.
Now all we got is a hint at how to create a mass protest tool.
Nobody is expecting perfection, that lot left a long time ago.
CCP just got to try and keep those that remain in the game happy, bringing down lumps of Eve over a weekend sadly is not the way forward. ---------------- There are no bugs just locked threads |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.23 11:24:00 -
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If you were stupid enough to turn up in Amarr, a system notorious for getting stuck, for an Event of such magnitude (it WAS the single biggest most organized event in Eve's short gaming history) then you deserve all the stuckiness you received.
A blind retarded Gallente college drop-out with a severe lack of common sense could've told you it would crash the system.
Dumbasses.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:07:00 -
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A blind retarded Gallente college drop-out with a severe lack of common sense could've told you it would crash the system.
Yeah, but I kept my mouth shut .
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:10:00 -
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Quote: There was no reason to think that 400 people would attempt to go watch.
how many ppl participated in the championship?
how many would have liked to take part?
you didn t imagine they had a friend or two to bring to the ceremony? (kind of an old tradition where i live...)
i guess this was the fitting end to an event that was not planned at all and went through dozens of rulechanges and got postponed several times. (if you call this "well executed",...)
my hope was that they learned something about the major flaws in their combat system, but it seems ccp is resitant to "learning".
oh well.
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:26:00 -
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Well, what disappoints me the most is that the storyline was supposed to be influenced in this event (won't say with what), but of course that couldn't happen when the system crashed. It would have been a blast though, but I guess we'll just have to read it in the news now ;/
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Zodiac Laserstorm
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Posted - 2003.11.23 12:44:00 -
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Quote: (...) I got some great screenie of tech.3 Concord battleship. And got to see the Reverend in a Probe (i think) chased around by a Thorax :s (...)
Hmmm... Now I know nothing, as I avoided going there (sorry Devs, I'm a fanboi, you this was asking for trouble ) but are you sure this was a CONCORD ship? It looks very clearly Amarr and useually CONCORD is a mix of styles, not a single clear style... or is it?
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