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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 16:33:47 -
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We have jump freighters which are cool and come in handy..
And I have one but something smaller non cap would be cool for small supply runs...
It would function just like a jump freighter but hauler sized..
T3 Haulers???
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:29:12 -
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Bobb Bobbington wrote: I could see CCP making a jump hauler with ~20,000 m3 that costs like 200million isk, that way you can move stuff yourself without having to wait for a supply run or without dropping 7 billion isk for a ship you'll only occasionally use. That seems like it'd be pretty helpful for getting people into nullsec, although I don't know how easy or hard moving should be for game balance.
My thoughts exactly..
And even if it cost 500-600mil, It would be worth it..
It would greatly improve logistics ..
Build costs would probably be about the same as a hac..
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:44:06 -
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I don't see how it could be abused..
I don't see how it could increase the population in 0.0 but if it did isn't that what everyone's been wanting???
With a 20k cargo hold you're not hauling much..
And it would take more fuel trying to move a large amount making multiple runs then it would to have a jf make the run once... |
Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 18:58:55 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Renfus wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote: I could see CCP making a jump hauler with ~20,000 m3 that costs like 200million isk, that way you can move stuff yourself without having to wait for a supply run or without dropping 7 billion isk for a ship you'll only occasionally use. That seems like it'd be pretty helpful for getting people into nullsec, although I don't know how easy or hard moving should be for game balance. My thoughts exactly.. And even if it cost 500-600mil, It would be worth it.. It would greatly improve logistics .. Build costs would probably be about the same as a hac.. How could it cost 500-600 mill if you put the build cost around HAC level?
Greedy bastards... that's how... lol
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:44:12 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Yes, please let us go back to being able to jump the length of the galaxy in ~30 minutes.
Yeah because a small hauler able to jump like a JF is game breaking...
it's nothing that's not already available in game, all i'd like to do is downsize a bit...
hell blackops can do it...
if anything is OP or game breaking that is...
Personally i think it's a pretty good idea to be honest...
meh.. can't please everyone... |
Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 22:34:38 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:I'm sure OP forgot to mention that T3 hauler should have ability to use jump portal field grnerator.
maybe add that option but I would not to tie it in with Blackops crap that would defeat the purpose...
It just needs the ability to function like Jump freighters. |
Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.06 22:37:20 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Renfus wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Yes, please let us go back to being able to jump the length of the galaxy in ~30 minutes. Yeah because a small hauler able to jump like a JF is game breaking... it's nothing that's not already available in game, all i'd like to do is downsize a bit... hell blackops can do it... if anything is OP or game breaking that is... Personally i think it's a pretty good idea to be honest... meh.. can't please everyone... It's not jumping to the hauler that matters, it's getting me there to fly my real ships... effectively a jump shuttle...
no its the hauler which is the point.. a freighter isn't needed for all supply runs..
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.07 11:22:39 -
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Samillian wrote:Seems to me that obsoleting Blockade Runners and replacing them with a even more difficult to catch ship with a higher cargo capacity is pandering to risk aversion and a real step backwards.
Not supported.
How is it a step backwards?
We have jump freighters...
It's not obsoleting blockade runners at all... which are great for low sec runs and WH operations..
But for deep 0.0 runs I use my JF..
I just think it would be nice to have a hauler that can make that trip.. like I said freighters are not always needed..
Yeah we can setup a jb network, that's always an option..
What I can see happening though is, it would make setting up in deep null sec easier..
Jump in with a pos in the jump hauler, set it up, then jump out and come back in the jf once pos defences are up with everything else..
Oh well to each there own, but I think it would be a great addition..
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.07 11:29:05 -
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Lan Wang wrote:its too easy with 90% reduction in jump fatigue and a pretty easy train you are just making what was mentioned a jump shuttle, for this you have a viator or another blockade runner
I can use my jump freighter or carrier as a jump shuttle..
Or a could use a jump bridge network...
So how game breaking is a hauler???
It's not....
Like I said freighters are not needed for small supply runs and I think a hauler that could function like a jf would be a great addition..
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.07 13:53:13 -
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Meh.. Haters gonna hate no matter what it is..
I still think it's a good idea.. |
Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.07 15:14:16 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Renfus wrote:Meh.. Haters gonna hate no matter what it is..
I still think it's a good idea.. but its not so much hate CCP and many players want null groups to be more reliant on their own space and less on HS making it easier to get things from HS goes against this with that said we are never going to see this happen until meta mods can be built
But they still would be stuff sufficient..
We have Jump freighters and jump bridge networks..
A little haulers not gonna make that big of a difference..
Hi sec and null sec have always depended on each other and always will...
Hi sec is the trade hub.. and a core source for manufacturing..
Null sec is the source for high end ore and moon resources...
One will always need the other...
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:35:13 -
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Ya know i said T3 because we already have T2 haulers...
I honestly dont care what class the ship is..
Make it a new pirate class hauler ...
hell i dont care if the requirements are the same as Jump freighters or some version...
yeah it's not a blockade runner so make it weaker lower its hp & take away a slot or 2 to " make room for the Jump drive"
But basically its utility and function is what's needed..
light deep 0.0 supply runs.. fuel, ammo, mods, bpc ect.. Or even initial POS setup..
>20k or whatever the cargo hold would end up being..
it's not taking the light away from blockade runners.. they will always have a place running low sec & WHs
though i think they need immunity to bubbles... hell if intys get it a blockade runner if any ship should but thats a different topic.. lol
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Renfus
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Posted - 2015.09.11 22:26:59 -
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Any Dev opinions on this? |
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