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DHU InMe
Gallente JUSTICE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 01:52:00 -
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Lastest scam for Contrats (aka ESCROW)
ie: Selling 50k of Megacite for only 125m ! (<3000isk/mega) But only sell one item. Problem is that seing no number of quantity, lof of people believe it a deal (good for the scammer, bad for the honest dealer)
Lastest scam for Contrats (aka ESCROW)
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darklegionca
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:22:00 -
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so is everyone going to make a topic about each diffrent mineral now first it was zydrne now its mega whats next trit ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend. |

Baleorg
Gallente Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:25:00 -
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its NOT "the latest" if no number or freeform.. its 1 unit / scam
*yawn* ---
BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner |

Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:31:00 -
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if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
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DHU InMe
Gallente JUSTICE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
lot of people fall for it. I didn't fall for it. But if it not corrected, i wonder how many people will start al to sell soem scam... __ UI Overhaul Eve Links http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&thread |

Zakru Anul
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.15 04:44:00 -
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someone tryed the freeform scam on me.
i war dec his corp for his troubles.
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2006.12.15 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Yurii Chan on 15/12/2006 04:52:50 is it really that hard to understand the new concept? i had a chat with a friend regarding this issue and its simple. if you see just the icon and no number following it, then it stands for ONE! if it has a number like in your case 50,000x then it stands for 50k
ffs its not that hard to understand! and second of all, what makes you or anyone actually think that something that sells for 4kpu on open market (or close havent looked at the prices as of late) would be on escrows for 25% cheaper?! i mean really. no one can be that daft, right?
so to reiterate. general rules of thumb - if item has no number marked after the icon when you show contract, then it means there's only one (UN, UNO, 1, NII [i cant remember 1 in japanese, someone care to help?], HANA) in the contract. otherwise its legit. general rule of thumbs #2, if something is too good to be true, it probably is.
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CaldoZ
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Posted - 2006.12.15 05:17:00 -
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CCP are not good at making interfaces, u know? 
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Serpensis
Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.15 06:59:00 -
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In such cases, do not edit out the name of the moron putting up the contract.
Give us his name please, so we can add him to our list of scammers. -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty." |

Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:08:00 -
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bring back teh escrow
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:11:00 -
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You have to code it extra so the amount for single items doesn't show up in most design environments.
This might give a hint that the feature is intended and not a bug or glitch. --*=*=*--
The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |

Trinity Faetal
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:11:00 -
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freeform is and will always be the way to scam fools, there will always be someoen who wil fall for it
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Trinity Faetal freeform is and will always be the way to scam fools, there will always be someoen who wil fall for it
Also AFAIK its pretty easy to avoid to be scammed. All you have to do is not use freeform when buying general merchandice on the contract system. Use auction!
Also, use Freeform only for corp use or in trusted situations.
Freeform have its uses, but as so much when its so open and freely managable tool, it can be misued! What people have to understand is Freeform is a tool. And a very flexibile one! Used correctly and wisely, its superb!
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER |

Keikko Aranata
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:56:00 -
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I'd rather see CCP develop game content and systems to provide for the seedy underbelly of EVE instead of just creating a crap UI to either purposely, or through ignorance of the developers, provide scam opportunities.
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Hed First
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Keikko Aranata I'd rather see CCP develop game content and systems to provide for the seedy underbelly of EVE instead of just creating a crap UI to either purposely, or through ignorance of the developers, provide scam opportunities.
so true ------------------------------------ I'm OMW |

Virginia Bacci
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Keikko Aranata I'd rather see CCP develop game content and systems to provide for the seedy underbelly of EVE instead of just creating a crap UI to either purposely, or through ignorance of the developers, provide scam opportunities.
I disagree, making your ISK by scamming is a valid career path in Eve. Its up to the players to ensure they don't get scammed.
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Destiny Calling
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
Exactly like saying if your dumb enough not to use a capital letter in yuor sentence. You don't deserve to type.
By all means contribute your opinion, at least make it something useful. Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it Do not call people noobs or wannabes. It's unsporting and not pleasant. |

Keikko Aranata
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Virginia Bacci
Originally by: Keikko Aranata I'd rather see CCP develop game content and systems to provide for the seedy underbelly of EVE instead of just creating a crap UI to either purposely, or through ignorance of the developers, provide scam opportunities.
I disagree, making your ISK by scamming is a valid career path in Eve. Its up to the players to ensure they don't get scammed.
What are you disagreeing with exactly? Are you having an argument with yourself? I ask this, because I didn't say anything about scams being valid or invalid forms of game play in EVE. Read what I wrote again please. If you don't understand what I wrote, please just ask for clarification and I'll oblige.
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framolia
Gallente The 5th Amendment
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
Says the guy who is so dumb, he puts his own ugly mug in his sig!
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NAP
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:40:00 -
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Quote: if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
So all players must study every forum thread before playing to ensure that no glitches will allow them to lose their isk? Get a clue.
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:48:00 -
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Some whorums believe that everyone in eve knows about every thread there has ever been on these forums .. but in fact I would estimate that 90% of people do not go to the forums because the information to crap ratio is now 1:1000 at least and increasing
The OP has a gripe about a UI design element that is costing players lots of isk. Its not their fault that they dont know about every bug eve has to offer, it would be better if eve developers came along and said that they were fixing it, but they never do, and so the complaints continue ....
Or are you suggesting that casual players come to the forums and do a search (HAH!) to see if whatever they were going to do was bugged?
alas, poor risk vs reward, I knew you well
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SaltandPepper
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
boost your sig i canŠt grapple with ugly teenagers
and yes i doubt alot of non experienced players have lost alot of isk the last weeks -.-
Roses are red, violets are blue, and all ya base are belong to me. |

Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:39:00 -
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Well whats missing is a "1" if its only one unit...no need for an outrage of how CCP suck, they simply could add that.
On the other hand, its the design of freeform, so only buy from others if you wanna be sure.
What is seriously unnecessary is posting yet another thread about the same topic that has been discussed a dozen times. It doesnt make the issue more known at CCP, they do read the forums, they know it is used for scams... Siganture removed due to profanity - Serathu ([email protected]) |

Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:46:00 -
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You sure this 'scam' is not a ISK transfer between buyer and seller? This is how they pull it off to make it harder for CCP to track.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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Stakhanov
Gallente Newbies On Xstacy
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Stakhanov on 15/12/2006 11:57:41 Mineral scams are perfectly counterable , on the contract creator side. Just add 1 unit of tritanium in the contract , and it will be shown as multiple items - which removes any doubt about the item quantity.
I have to say I was tempted to try and perfect that new scam when I read about it - but others beat me to it , with hub regions already flooded with silly looking offers. It's nothing better than old escrow scams , annoying for everyone and with a poor rate of success. Ridiculously overpriced sell orders don't bother anyone , and they work 
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:56:00 -
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eve fools and their ISK are soon parted - i had one guy ask me the leader of some alliance that apparetnnly had hired mercs to attack his corp ( this merc corp was in fact just some griefers idea of fun) make the noob scared anyway he asked me the name of xxxxxx alliance leader to contact ( now any smart ndividual would check corp info - alliacne info and leader of head corp in the alliance) executioner corp but no instead jokeingly i said 10m for the name and corp name - he paid up now i wsa thinking to myself how more lazy could this guy be parting with 10m just for the name i could have strung him along for more ISK but thoguht no this is enough so gave him the name and let him on his way) that said could have created alt corps and done this guy over and over for easy ISK but some noobs need a break.
that shows tho how lazy - uneducated - stoopid some players are and they get scammed
Ill admit ive got caught once was tired and put a 200m control tower up for corp mate put corp mate name in description and placed item ta 1 ISK ( was a simple transfer) well as luck would have it someone come along and claimed it surfice to say i now check every escrow ( well when it was there) contracts make it easier but yes only go with auction ones if u dont wanna get scammered
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.12.15 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord I R L33T
FFS, here we go again, you say he was a n00b. Maybe, just maybe he did not know how to find that information (not covered in new player guide is it) ... and showing that he was desperate enough to part with that much isk tells us how desperate he was...
I have been estimating your age on the content of your posts, its at "twinkle in your fathers eye" now, and going down fast 
Alas, poor risk vs reward, I knew you well |

Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 13:15:00 -
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This is neither new, nor is Contracts 'also known as' Escrow, except by those too ignorant to have noticed that Contracts replaced Escrow, not to mention the large number of 'thank god escrow is gone' and 'bring escrow back ffs' on the eve-o fora. ----------
IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win |

Liklin
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.12.15 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Radioactive Babe Some whorums believe that everyone in eve knows about every thread there has ever been on these forums .. but in fact I would estimate that 90% of people do not go to the forums because the information to crap ratio is now 1:1000 at least and increasing
The OP has a gripe about a UI design element that is costing players lots of isk. Its not their fault that they dont know about every bug eve has to offer, it would be better if eve developers came along and said that they were fixing it, but they never do, and so the complaints continue ....
Or are you suggesting that casual players come to the forums and do a search (HAH!) to see if whatever they were going to do was bugged?
exactly, and hey even if everyone should somehow telepathically know it now, how about the multitudes of new people joining daily ? they supposed to somehow have a telepathic mind link to the fact that once they've been griefed on their beginners tutorial that other delights such as being ripped off by morons with crap attitudes await them ? ccp advertise on the box making it abundantly clear don't they ? 
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DHU InMe
Gallente JUSTICE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy You have to code it extra so the amount for single items doesn't show up in most design environments.
This might give a hint that the feature is intended and not a bug or glitch.
-Ya, dev made an extra if so scammer can enjoy it even more...
I won't under-estimate or over-estimate people intelligence. But people don't want to think if they were at dev seat or in their mind.
Originally by: Serpensis In such cases, do not edit out the name of the moron putting up the contract.
Give us his name please, so we can add him to our list of scammers.
The moron in question didn't make his scam on TQ, I did it on Singularity for test purpose.
Originally by: NAP
Quote: if ur dumb enough to fall for that u dont deserve the isk anyway lol
So all players must study every forum thread before playing to ensure that no glitches will allow them to lose their isk? Get a clue.
TBH, player should gather some information on their own, but I agree that eve is the worst intuitive game I saw so far. Tutorial are great, but long to read.
Best know system of help I know to date is Anarchy Online (pop up hint to tell you how stuff work). Didn't played wow, can't comment.
Originally by: Zakru Anul someone tryed the freeform scam on me.
i war dec his corp for his troubles.
Great, but limited to corp. I can have 2 corp less alt per account...
Originally by: Chewan Mesa Well whats missing is a "1" if its only one unit...no need for an outrage of how CCP suck, they simply could add that.
On the other hand, its the design of freeform, so only buy from others if you wanna be sure.
Ya, they just need to add "itemName X 1" when there less than 2 item.
Finaly someone put the finger on what I wanted.
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Calarn
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.18 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zakru Anul someone tryed the freeform scam on me.
i war dec his corp for his troubles.
I guess your going to be docking in their station, undocking then docking when they have a few ships outside then?
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Dawne Xi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dawne Xi on 19/12/2006 20:07:41
Originally by: Yurii Chan Edited by: Yurii Chan on 15/12/2006 04:52:50 is it really that hard to understand the new concept? if you see just the icon and no number following it, then it stands for ONE! if it has a number like in your case 50,000x then it stands for 50k
ffs its not that hard to understand! ......
No number means one ...
Perhaps you should consult a dictionary... Definition 2 should be of partilcular interest to you.
no ûadjective 1. not any: no money. 2. not at all; far from being: He is no genius.
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Jocindus
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:29:00 -
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Why did you type escrow in all caps? And why is the latest scam for contracts also known as escrow?
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