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Special Eddy Special Edd Bus	Posted - 2006.12.15 11:58:00 - [1] Edited by: Special Eddy on 15/12/2006 12:02:54 Edited by: Special Eddy on 15/12/2006 11:59:02 Hmm, i was wondering, How much does a curse with 3 med nos, 1 med nuet, 1 smal nuet (all best named), drain per cycle with recon at a level 4. Mainly cuz im training for one at te moment, but want to know how long it takes to offline cruisers/hacs/BC's even BS's Additional : Also what kind of effect does 3 tracking distrupter II's have on medium guns? regards
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.15 12:06:00 - [2] It's called item database and a calculator. look at how much they drain then calculate the overall by the bonus. not difficult, stop being lazy. DE
Special Eddy Special Edd Bus	Posted - 2006.12.15 12:22:00 - [3] Edited by: Special Eddy on 15/12/2006 12:23:40 Originally by: DarkElf It's called item database and a calculator. look at how much they drain then calculate the overall by the bonus. not difficult, stop being lazy. DE Hmm maybe i should rephrase it then. I didnt want some1 to crunch some numbers, just wanted a rough estimate as to how long it takes to drain a HAC.BC.BS.Cruiser etc (factoring in recharge times, there own cap usage etc) from experienced curse flyers. Also another point, its +20% per level on cap draining, is that +20 base, or +20 on the remainder. Ie Base drain 100 + 20% =20gain (level 1) = 120 +20% =24gain(level 2) =144 +20% =28gain (level 3) =172 +20% =30odd gain (level 4) =206 +20% =40odd gain = 250 ...... all the maths have been done in my head so its a kinda rough guess
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.15 12:32:00 - [4] At level 5 you'd suck in 100% extra cap per cycle. In your exsample that ends up with a well rounded 200 cap. The amount of cap you can drain depends on the target. Cap injectors, batteries and skills among other factors come into play here. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Special Eddy Special Edd Bus	Posted - 2006.12.15 12:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Tachy At level 5 you'd suck in 100% extra cap per cycle. In your exsample that ends up with a well rounded 200 cap. The amount of cap you can drain depends on the target. Cap injectors, batteries and skills among other factors come into play here. Are you sure, cuz in my curse i have well over +120% range on my nos with only L3 recon. Over 30km with some best named nuet, considering that the base is 12km + 100% = 24 + the other 20 makes it more like 25/26 not 30km, unless it was indeed +40% on what it is, tho im unsure.
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Special Eddy Originally by: Tachy At level 5 you'd suck in 100% extra cap per cycle. In your exsample that ends up with a well rounded 200 cap. The amount of cap you can drain depends on the target. Cap injectors, batteries and skills among other factors come into play here. Are you sure, cuz in my curse i have well over +120% range on my nos with only L3 recon. Over 30km with some best named nuet, considering that the base is 12km + 100% = 24 + the other 20 makes it more like 25/26 not 30km, unless it was indeed +40% on what it is, tho im unsure. he's talking about drain amount mate not range. it gets a 20% amount bonus so with recon 5 that's 100% but 40% to range so 120% extra with recon 3. to the op ok mate i get ur point now. haven't used mine since the cap boost in kali but i remember as a general rule if i fought an ishtar or rook,falcon ect and he missed his first cycle of ecm on me then his cap would be 0 before he got a chance for a second cycle. so generally about 3 cycles (18 seconds) and hacs/recons were drained with 4 medium nos 1 medium neut setup. hope that helps a little DE
Special Eddy Special Edd Bus	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:15:00 - [7] Ok ill try to word it one last time, cuz i think im not being very clear. Is the bonus system done on base Ie 100 + 100% with 5 levels = 200 Or is it done on total per level. Ie 100+20%+20%+20%+20%+20%, mainly cuz thats actually a bigger bonus than 100% and more than 200 end result.... :) If so that would make level 5 give more of a bonus than Level 1, not only for this skill but for all, but i dunno
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:19:00 - [8] bonuses in eve from same skill never adds. 5% dmg / lvl with lvl 5 will end up as 25% bonus, not 1 x 1.05 x 1.05... Basicly your nosfs will suck: 1 lvl0 1.2 lvl1 1.4 lvl2 . 1.8x at lvl4 2x at lvl5 Hope it helps. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Special Eddy Ok ill try to word it one last time, cuz i think im not being very clear. Is the bonus system done on base Ie 100 + 100% with 5 levels = 200 Or is it done on total per level. Ie 100+20%+20%+20%+20%+20%, mainly cuz thats actually a bigger bonus than 100% and more than 200 end result.... :) If so that would make level 5 give more of a bonus than Level 1, not only for this skill but for all, but i dunno done on base. as in if it nos's 100, then on a curse with recon5 it nos's 200. DE
Special Eddy Special Edd Bus	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:38:00 - [10] Edited by: Special Eddy on 15/12/2006 13:38:38 Originally by: LUKEC bonuses in eve from same skill never adds. 5% dmg / lvl with lvl 5 will end up as 25% bonus, not 1 x 1.05 x 1.05... Basicly your nosfs will suck: 1 lvl0 1.2 lvl1 1.4 lvl2 . 1.8x at lvl4 2x at lvl5 Hope it helps. Cheers matey. Finally the answear i was looking for :) Only thing that threw me was having over 32km range with named med nuet (un-stoppable) with only l3 recon. made me wonder what was going on. + thanks to other posters
Alia's	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:40:00 - [11] Partly related to this topic, which ship/setup is the best 'sucker'? Considering using only named/tech2 mods in ships, will Curse shine over Nos-Apoc and other larger ships with more high slots? Just wanting to know what would be perfect nos-fleet for bringing down capitals etc?
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Alia's Partly related to this topic, which ship/setup is the best 'sucker'? Considering using only named/tech2 mods in ships, will Curse shine over Nos-Apoc and other larger ships with more high slots? Just wanting to know what would be perfect nos-fleet for bringing down capitals etc? actually for bring down cap ships 3 curse's or more are awesome. against carriers u have cap injected mwd nano'd curses with nos/neuts and watch them not be able to hit you. then a couple of dmg dealers come in when cap is dead and cap ship bye bye. also to the op. 3 TD II's from a curse serious messes up a medium turret. if ur not webbed they will have serious trouble hitting anything and even if u are webbed they will struggle a little. DE
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.15 14:21:00 - [13] Only 12 days and I can start using Curse (Recon lvl5 then. I never use ship unless my skill for it is lvl5). "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö" "A world without pain"
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.12.15 15:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Kuolematon Only 12 days and I can start using Curse (Recon lvl5 then. I never use ship unless my skill for it is lvl5). I bet you spent a good bit on time in that Ibis.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.15 16:33:00 - [15] Does anyone have a good tactic for fighting against the curse or pilgrim? I'm referring to 1vs1 and 2vs1. Is it still "effective" fitting an Amarr ECM on a non-ecm ship if you know you're fighting an Amarr? --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Brazero Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2006.12.15 16:50:00 - [16] Originally by: DarkElf It's called item database and a calculator. look at how much they drain then calculate the overall by the bonus. not difficult, stop being lazy. DE No it's not. It's called training the skill, lvl5 Recon is a must have. And with Recon lvl5 Curse nossing with 4 x corpum nos, 288 cap or 72 cap/sec, range 58km Quote: <tuxford> Ah yes the Amarrians. Now bear with me apparantly I don't play Amarr or have ever heard of them, I read it on the forums.
Kay Rissa The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.15 16:51:00 - [17] killed curses few times, used Astarte (once with modal neutron blasters, other with t2 ions). Goes down very quickly. Proud member of the Priory ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
Hunter C8 Caldari Red Storm Vendetta	Posted - 2006.12.15 16:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Kay Rissa killed curses few times, used Astarte (once with modal neutron blasters, other with t2 ions). Goes down very quickly. Right :/ That matters why, and frankly, who cares? ------- Red Storm Vendetta Recruiting!
StarLite Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.15 17:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Alia's Partly related to this topic, which ship/setup is the best 'sucker'? Considering using only named/tech2 mods in ships, will Curse shine over Nos-Apoc and other larger ships with more high slots? Just wanting to know what would be perfect nos-fleet for bringing down capitals etc? Bhaalgorn wuth 8 heavy nos? :) If it's for killing capitals, try 4/4 or 3/5 nos/neut, neutralizers do more damage to a cap :) _______________________________________________________________________ This sig is guarded by SigGuard(c)
Neothas	Posted - 2006.12.15 17:27:00 - [20] Does anyone have a good tactic for fighting against the curse or pilgrim? I'm referring to 1vs1 and 2vs1. Originally by: Hunter C8 Originally by: Kay Rissa killed curses few times, used Astarte (once with modal neutron blasters, other with t2 ions). Goes down very quickly. Right :/ That matters why, and frankly, who cares? Umm....maybe because someone asked.... Reading the entire thread 4tw....
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.15 18:43:00 - [21] blasters work well against curse cause TD dont effect them that much, and vs an astarte you wont drain cap fast enough to turn them off before you pop. tip:always fit a mwd and faction scram on your curse. mwd orbiting at 25km that astarte will not touch you. with even regular nos you will have 31km range Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.15 18:57:00 - [22] I can fly Minmatar and Amarr ships in this scenario (BS for both, but only T2 frigs for Amarr and T2 cruisers for minmatar). Let's say I know there's a curse out next door to me and I have time to pick a ship to go after it with. What would you suggest I grab (this is for 1vs1 of course)? In regards to blasters - wouldn't these just get turned off or are we relying on cap injectors in that scenario? --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Arx Impera Amarr Imperial Space Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.15 19:32:00 - [23] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn blasters work well against curse cause TD dont effect them that much, and vs an astarte you wont drain cap fast enough to turn them off before you pop. tip:always fit a mwd and faction scram on your curse. mwd orbiting at 25km that astarte will not touch you. with even regular nos you will have 31km range Even with 1 or 2 tracking disruptors on top of the Astarte? Mind you, I have never flown one, but plan to eventually. ...who of course promptly went bat****, flipped out and killed some people.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.16 07:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Shinjuro Originally by: Kuolematon Only 12 days and I can start using Curse (Recon lvl5 then. I never use ship unless my skill for it is lvl5). I bet you spent a good bit on time in that Ibis. Let's see: Interceptors lvl5 - check Assault Ships lvl5 - check Heavy Assault Ships lvl5 - check Command Ships lvl5 - check Yeah.. Ibis included "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö" "A world without pain"

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