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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2006.12.15 16:46:00 -
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I'm sick and tiered of doing lvl 3 missions that contains of killing 1000 frigates.
Why can't a mission be to kill 1 or 2 hard ships? I understand that CCP have dull missions to keep people from farming them 24/7 and to have some time sink, but it would be nice, once in a while to actually get a very good npc oponent and not 10000 not good oponents.
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BoBoZoBo
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.15 17:05:00 -
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/signed
Pain in the arse. =========================
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Chupacabro
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Posted - 2006.12.15 17:36:00 -
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Do level 4's you get a gazillion frigs with 1 or 2 tuff ones.
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Magnus Card
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.15 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chupacabro Do level 4's you get a gazillion frigs with 1 or 2 tuff ones.
More like a gazillion cruisers a handfull of frigs and a few BSes. But yeah Lvl 4 is the way to go.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.12.15 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion I'm sick and tiered of doing lvl 3 missions that contains of killing 1000 frigates.
Why can't a mission be to kill 1 or 2 hard ships? I understand that CCP have dull missions to keep people from farming them 24/7 and to have some time sink, but it would be nice, once in a while to actually get a very good npc oponent and not 10000 not good oponents.
That is why I enjoy The Blockade so much. Buttloads of BCs and Dire Pithi Cruisers with heavy resists. I could do that mission over and over and over.
However, I hate the frigs. Jamming little - expletive deleted.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.12.15 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion I'm sick and tiered of doing lvl 3 missions that contains of killing 1000 frigates.
Why can't a mission be to kill 1 or 2 hard ships? I understand that CCP have dull missions to keep people from farming them 24/7 and to have some time sink, but it would be nice, once in a while to actually get a very good npc oponent and not 10000 not good oponents.
That is why I enjoy The Blockade so much. Buttloads of BCs and Dire Pithi Cruisers with heavy resists. I could do that mission over and over and over.
However, I hate the frigs. Jamming little - expletive deleted.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2006.12.15 21:58:00 -
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Issnt the point that any fleet should consist of loads of frigates, many cruisers, some BC's a few BS's and maybe a capital ship?
You get the point anyway. In numbers Frigates>Destroyers>Cruisers>BC's>BS's>carriers&Dreads>Motherships>Titans
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah Issnt the point that any fleet should consist of loads of frigates, many cruisers, some BC's a few BS's and maybe a capital ship?
You get the point anyway. In numbers Frigates>Destroyers>Cruisers>BC's>BS's>carriers&Dreads>Motherships>Titans
not really
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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:26:00 -
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Like players I don't think the NPCs should be ubermany.
I think it would be much more fun to fight harder opponents then much more.
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Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:47:00 -
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Another vote for fewer, harder npcs... it would reduce lag too :) If I want to fight a thousand zergling frigates at once, there's always Goonfleet
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Elvarien
Caldari The Night's Watch THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.16 21:10:00 -
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this should be stickied.
Indeed I`ve killed many many many little anoying frig swarms in missions.... to avoid boredom I take a frigate[sb] out to 0.0 and try to pop me some battleships there atleast thats a chalange.
I`d Drool for a mission in wich you for example had 3 battleships fit to support/complement eachother using T2 weaponry to pound the living F*** out of whatever warps in...
Fun Fun Fun .. >---- A Haiku with <3 Logged into Jita. System is empty, I cry. Tis a dream come true. Some day.
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Hex'Caliber
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.16 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hex''Caliber on 16/12/2006 23:34:08
Originally by: Elvarien this should be stickied.
Indeed I`ve killed many many many little anoying frig swarms in missions.... to avoid boredom I take a frigate[sb] out to 0.0 and try to pop me some battleships there atleast thats a chalange.
I`d Drool for a mission in wich you for example had 3 battleships fit to support/complement eachother using T2 weaponry to pound the living F*** out of whatever warps in...
Fun Fun Fun ..
If this were the case, I could park up my faction fitted mega and take out my Taranis, knowing I could clear them as easily as I can any 0.0 faction spawn.
Snore Snore Snoreà
Eve npc ai would need to evolve in leaps and bounds to make the scenario you describe even remotely threatening.
SISI testing ôDonÆt forget to start the log server before the client; the logs are needed for bug reports when something goes wrong.ö Regards HexCaliber
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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2006.12.17 03:59:00 -
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But harder missions would be more fun than zerg zerg missions.
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Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.17 05:52:00 -
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Quote: Isnt the point that any fleet should consist of loads of frigates, many cruisers, some BC's a few BS's and maybe a capital ship?
Since when is every mission against an official fleet?
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Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion I'm sick and tiered of doing lvl 3 missions that contains of killing 1000 frigates.
Why can't a mission be to kill 1 or 2 hard ships? I understand that CCP have dull missions to keep people from farming them 24/7 and to have some time sink, but it would be nice, once in a while to actually get a very good npc oponent and not 10000 not good oponents.
Duo of Death is a good one like that. Wouldn't mind more. ---- I accept that this post reflects upon my corp, even if I claim it does not. |
Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.18 08:27:00 -
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Agreed, though it was funny to see a corpmate freak out when 30 Guardian Veterans tackled his Ishtar
Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2006.12.18 10:38:00 -
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I started a similar thread myself a while back so have to agree with the OP.
Level 2 missions as well could do with the same treatment - take out some of the frigates and add a few more cruisers. I would not mind a straight swap which would have the added bonus of making them a bit harder.
Level 3s with the odd battleship replacing a cruiser or two would also be nice.
I would also like them to be less predictable. How a bout a mission for which you get one attempt. If you warp out you fail. Could probably be done by giving you a one use deadspace key when you accept the mission. However you don't know what faction ship/ships you will be facing. Much more challenging than the usual "I am fighting sanshas so tank em" routine.
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Talio ZomB
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Posted - 2006.12.18 10:48:00 -
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I so damn agree with this. At least have some mission that genuinely have serious rats.
Rachen Mysuna is the toughest BS npc I have seen, albeit he gets nerfed and buffed like the moon comes and goes.
I hate WoW but one thing I see from my bro's religious playing of it is that it has scenrios where real team efforts are needed.
Eve has the same but these are called 8/10s and 10/10s now how many of us can frequently get access to those??? 3% maybe?
We need the Dread Guristas Mofo Baby Eating Monster
Raven Rat with 50mil sp player firepower and tank (and then some for the sake of being a boss, eg perma AB and 40 km orbit or something) ofc he would be worth a few mil too though making gang efforts actually rewarding
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 12:49:00 -
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/signed --
[21:54:01] BaroteToo > cheyenne shadowborn is an ore theiving dead puke if I catch him |
RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2006.12.19 08:03:00 -
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UP
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Shakuul
Caldari The Imperial Commonwealth The Sundering
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Posted - 2006.12.19 08:11:00 -
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Since CCP probably won't change this anytime soon, I would suggest heading down to 0.0 and ratting. Lots of the spawns there are just 2-3 battleships and 2-3 smaller ships.
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Helif Eyeno
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Posted - 2006.12.19 08:22:00 -
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The problem with changing this is newbies who don't have their skills trained up won't be able to take care of these missions. If you want hard combat, go PvP in 0.0. I'm not ready for it, but obviously some of you are.
Best idea I've heard here was someone who suggested misisons that are given out by difficulty rating. You ask for a mission, you ask for easy/med/hard, and then go gank 'em if ya can.
Actually, that would probably lead to farming of the easy ones for faction standing or quicker storylines. So how about difficulty based on your standing with the agent giving the mission? Effective standing 1-4 easy, 5-7 med, 8+ hard? At leas then maybe I wouldn't have to grind so many missions to get the corp standing up with level 1s...
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BaldyBob
Minmatar Dark Knights Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.19 09:23:00 -
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Vengeance on Level 4 has some seriously tough Rats in the last room, nice hard mission to play.
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Master Greysmoke
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Posted - 2006.12.19 10:28:00 -
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Its always funny to see the top 5% of player complain that missions are too easy and need to be harder. I think that's what lvl 5 missions will be for. There are a lot of people out there that can't kill those 2.5m bounty enemies with 2 ships and need a 3rd person to come and tip the balance.
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XenoPagan
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Posted - 2006.12.19 13:42:00 -
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it's not that they are hard (well, ok, many of them are, depends on your experience and ship) but problem is that you have to pop hordes of frigs that come on you screaming like red army. Instead of them would be good to have some "Tiger"'s ;)
Especially now with salvaging. I know that I can't get anything decent from small wreck but I still salvage them because.. well... "maybe". That's my problem tho :D
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion I'm sick and tiered of doing lvl 3 missions that contains of killing 1000 frigates.
Why can't a mission be to kill 1 or 2 hard ships? I understand that CCP have dull missions to keep people from farming them 24/7 and to have some time sink, but it would be nice, once in a while to actually get a very good npc oponent and not 10000 not good oponents.
Do the missions in a frigate.
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Tanyi Thomas
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tanyi Thomas on 19/12/2006 21:08:44 Edited by: Tanyi Thomas on 19/12/2006 21:08:09 I agree the mission are bad.
I would love to see mission where I'm facing one very tought BS or evenly match ship.
or a Squadard of 6 or 10 tought Ships.
I enjoy 'The Blockade' but it seems must mission are 1 against 50to 100 other ships. It get tiring very fast.
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