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Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:53:00 - [31] Originally by: Zembla Originally by: Raem Civrie That's it. We're boned. I'm absolutely not at all supposed to post in this thread at aaaaall, but... even if it costs me my skin... your sig needs it's own friggen pedestal! ****s me up every time I see it :) <Z> Correction: JamesW needs his own friggen pedestal. I'm just doing my part for the revolution. If you like the sig, use it yourself. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC*
TGbullet Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.16 18:01:00 - [32] Originally by: Butter Dog Unexpected and not at all unwelcome :) Have fun. I would'nt expect much out of them.
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.16 18:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Spiderweb Edited by: Spiderweb on 16/12/2006 17:07:27 IAC made a huge error on picking up a fight for no serious reason with a very serious advesary. Now they pay the price for their arrogance it seems. /bb IAC What price? Second rate mercs trying to catch the mission runners and haulers on WTZ? Not very scary to be honest.
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:38:00 - [34] Well, this is going to be a boring contract. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.16 22:20:00 - [35] Originally by: KIAEddZ I am not amember of ISS, but would like to remind IAC that ISS have many friends with in Deep Pockets. So very true. Fun times ahead. --------
Abye Caldari UNITED STARS ORGANISATION	Posted - 2006.12.16 22:23:00 - [36] Hope eddz stops posting in RAGOON threads for a while, he is getting annoying
Don Carn'age Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.16 22:48:00 - [37] IAC, competent PvP'ers im told, go give em a fight! as for KIA, seasoned and what ive heard damn fine pvp'ers. GL to either side, KIA officially back in business i take it then? : )) DonC [INFOD] <PACT> I like GW, Ill take it! One Corp One Pact Two Alliances Eliminated INFOD
Orvas Dren Gallente The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 04:09:00 - [38] I am not the official IAC diplomat, Kaylana Syi is, however... As one of the other IAC Executive: To those that think we are what we were when ISS first hired MC to attack us(never confirmed, that war has battle-hardened our dedicated base and we have weeded out the problems we had before. Suddenly MCFixKia no longer have the range advantage in BS that they used to, and our capital fleet has gained considerable strength. This will be a different fight all together as we have our allies close and our enemies closer, and all I can say is that I am horrible excited to see the battles ahead. Even better, I can't wait to see what the newly appointed Kaylana, a good friend of mine, can do for our political nature. Oh, and ISS, this will teach you what happens when you markup everything on our market by reselling at a much higher price nearly everything we put up on the markets. GL to all involved, have fun, and please remember that at the end of the day, its a game. -Orvas Dren Logistics Director Tournament Competitor EVE-Mail me for custom signature work. Price Negotiable
Shuriath Caldari Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 08:35:00 - [39] Originally by: Nadija Originally by: Spiderweb Edited by: Spiderweb on 16/12/2006 17:07:27 IAC made a huge error on picking up a fight for no serious reason with a very serious advesary. Now they pay the price for their arrogance it seems. /bb IAC tbh IAC just wanted a striaght fight with ISS, ISS were the ones who escalated the war by brining in mercs to do the fighting for them when they have the capablities.... Nadija, ISS were always goign to hire merc, and there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest, they are an industrial alliance, not a PVP alliance, so they fight using their wallets, however the fight between ISS and IAC was escalated when pos warefare was involved. And IAC has still not moved on ISS assets. Welcome to the fight KIA, it brings a warm feeling to my heart and pride beyond counting to be a part of an alliance that needs 4 Merc corps hired against it, and will likely prevail still. there is a limit to spending money to save money, a wize adversary will make note of this value and withdraw before loss outweighs both potential gains and possible further loss. And since IAC have declared and proven no intention of moving on ISS assets... to date, the loss ISS will incure will only be ships and contract fees. However I do not represent the opinions and strategies imposed by IAC leadership and cannot in all honesty give a difinitive comment concerning IAC's moves concerning POS warefare, as sovreignity has been challenged in IAC space, it could very well be that IAC are considering a simmilar move, however nothing has been seen or said to give creedence to this possibility. once again these are my own views and opinions, and do not represent those of IAC leadership. May all enjoy the shoosting There is a fine line between pleasure and pain
Halafian The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.17 11:32:00 - [40] Edited by: Halafian on 17/12/2006 11:35:07 Edited by: Halafian on 17/12/2006 11:34:40 Originally by: Shuriath And since IAC have declared and proven no intention of moving on ISS assets... as sovreignity has been challenged in IAC space, it could very well be that IAC are considering a simmilar move, however nothing has been seen or said to give creedence to this possibility. Well, here are the words of your leadership: Originally by: Raem Civrie Anyway. Nice stations, we'll take them! Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's... though time will only tell who will own what station when. Originally by: n sx (...) you asked us flatout 5 minutes after the announcement whether we were taking ISS stations. Our official response was 'I dunno, maybe'. This was merely a ploy to keep you guessing. You threatened us that it would curb your response actions and we didn't budge.(...) Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk ?[ 2006.12.10 22:07:32 ] Count TaSessine > is this just general shooty shooty or outpost assaulting we're talking about? ?[ 2006.12.10 22:07:55 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > who knows ! ?[ 2006.12.10 22:09:55 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > i don't atm ?[ 2006.12.10 22:09:57 ] Count TaSessine > Tyrrax, I'm serious, the whole tone of the conflict depends on it - I think a clear statement of intent is something on both our interests ?[ 2006.12.10 22:10:27 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > shooting pos is certainly not out of the question. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough. IAC leadership had the opportunity to take POS warfare out of the question, and repeatedly refused to do so. They chose to lie about their situation with ISS (n sx: "business as usual") and then launched a huge multi-party invasion of ISS outpost systems. I suppose they thought being*****y, cool and coy would confer some kind of tactical advantage. But don't start a war if you don't like the way it might go -- especially if you're the ones who choose to leave all the unpleasant options on the table. The conversation between the Count and Tyrrax really couldn't be any more clear.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:23:00 - [41] Raem Civrie is not a leader in IAC The quotes you present which are from leaders aren't the least bit clear on the subject, since when do vague hints and taunts equal clarity ? "shooting pos is not out of the question" (ISS has POS in many other systems beside KDF and ZXIC fyi) We'll take their outposts if we damn well feel like it, but IAC has never said it will so shove a sock in it. http://eve.klaki.net/
Kun6 Fu Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk We'll take their outposts if we damn well feel like it... O RLY?
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk The quotes you present which are from leaders aren't the least bit clear on the subject, since when do vague hints and taunts equal clarity ? Being deliberately vague, even suggestive, when a large neighbouring alliance asks if you intend to assault their POS, is generally not a good diplomatic move.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:37:00 - [44] Edited by: maGz on 17/12/2006 12:38:04 Originally by: Butter Dog Being deliberately vague, even suggestive, when a large neighbouring alliance asks if you intend to assault their POS, is generally not a good diplomatic move. Others would say that it's a brillant move as it made an allegedly neutral/non-political alliance to make an agressive move which by all means wasn't necessary (obviously this is a matter of oppionion ie. depending which side you're on ) ____________ The Priory Killboard
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk We'll take their outposts if we damn well feel like it, but IAC has never said it will so shove a sock in it. I'd like to see you try to take them. About now is possibly a very, very good time for you to decide what you are going to do. --------
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:41:00 - [46] Originally by: maGz Others would say that it's a brillant move as it made an allegedly neutral/non-political alliance to make an agressive move which by all means wasn't necessary (obviously this is a matter of oppionion ie. depending which side you're on ) I'm not saying anything which hasnt been said already here, but allow me to repeat what others in ISS have already said. ISS changed their charter. We don't claim to be neutral, we claim not to be driven by politics. ISS act to protect the assets and income of their shareholders. A hostile station parked in a main travel pipe, 1 jump from key ISS assets, from which raids into ISS outpost systems are managed on a daily basis is not something ISS shareholders, or the alliance, is going to tolerate.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:46:00 - [47] Originally by: Butter Dog I'm not saying anything which hasnt been said already here, but allow me to repeat what others in ISS have already said. ISS changed their charter. We don't claim to be neutral, we claim not to be driven by politics. ISS act to protect the assets and income of their shareholders. A hostile station parked in a main travel pipe, 1 jump from key ISS assets, from which raids into ISS outpost systems are managed on a daily basis is not something ISS shareholders, or the alliance, is going to tolerate. Notice I did actually put that non-political word in as well. But as I said it's a matter of oppinion, I wont try to shove my oppinions down your throat, neither should you try to shove your oppinions down my throat. The Enslaver - That e-peen mobile of yours might have given you a few kill-mails and a bigger ego, however fact is still that your alliance have failed horribly... Plz move along ____________ The Priory Killboard
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:34:00 - [48] Originally by: Halafian Well, here are the words of your leadership: Originally by: Raem Civrie Anyway. Nice stations, we'll take them! Dude, I'm not a leader. I'm an anti-leader; I'm the whole reason FOR leaders. I'm technically a director but my applicable power within IAC is limited to shouting alot. Which, you know. I do. I shouted that particular bit while still wrecked after the Tournament and didn't know any of the details, since for me (and the rest of the IAC grunts) information about the standings change was kept off until the last moment, probably because of security leaks. Stop trying to use me in your propaganda. It's silly. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:37:00 - [49] Originally by: maGz The Enslaver - That e-peen mobile of yours might have given you a few kill-mails and a bigger ego, however fact is still that your alliance have failed horribly... Plz move along How so? What stations has LV lost? Try not to speak of which you know nothing. --------
Shuriath Caldari Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:43:00 - [50] Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 17/12/2006 11:35:07 Edited by: Halafian on 17/12/2006 11:34:40 Well, here are the words of your leadership: Originally by: Raem Civrie Anyway. Nice stations, we'll take them! Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's... though time will only tell who will own what station when. Originally by: n sx (...) you asked us flatout 5 minutes after the announcement whether we were taking ISS stations. Our official response was 'I dunno, maybe'. This was merely a ploy to keep you guessing. You threatened us that it would curb your response actions and we didn't budge.(...) Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk ?[ 2006.12.10 22:07:32 ] Count TaSessine > is this just general shooty shooty or outpost assaulting we're talking about? ?[ 2006.12.10 22:07:55 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > who knows ! ?[ 2006.12.10 22:09:55 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > i don't atm ?[ 2006.12.10 22:09:57 ] Count TaSessine > Tyrrax, I'm serious, the whole tone of the conflict depends on it - I think a clear statement of intent is something on both our interests ?[ 2006.12.10 22:10:27 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > shooting pos is certainly not out of the question. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough. IAC leadership had the opportunity to take POS warfare out of the question, and repeatedly refused to do so. They chose to lie about their situation with ISS (n sx: "business as usual") and then launched a huge multi-party invasion of ISS outpost systems. I suppose they thought being*****y, cool and coy would confer some kind of tactical advantage. First of all, the quotes you post are sooooo ooooh soooo vague and secondly actions speak louder than words. If we work on this same principle we would be marching to overthrow everyone every day because of taunts and comments such as these, there have been far worse said for far less consiquence. If you ask me, the comments were used as a scape goat so that a move on IAC could be made, Puting up pos' in a neighbouring system and putting neighbours pos' into reinforced to me is the agressive move, not a "maybe", "kinda" "ya never know" the only comment i see there that could even be remotely considered a genuine statemnt of usch a move, came from someone who isnt even in leadership. If IAC wanted ISS stations we would have moved to take them before the announcement, and topped the announcement off with the first strike, rather than camping the system with 30 or so frigs. pos warefare is certainly not out of the question now that its started, and IAC are not scared, we beat back a simmilar invading force once before and we will do it again, However the fact remains, that the war escelation is a move made by ISS not IAC and trying to use lame excuses and vague quotes to justify it wont wash. Simply ISS have made an offensive move. We shall see how this pans out, and win or lose, its going to be fun, hell I'v had boatloads so far, and plan on having boatloads more. and tbh if MC FIX KIA and Veto all hastled iac pilots as good as they put pos' into reinforced, ISS wouldnt ever need to worry about IAC being hostile, the way would always be clear. This is once again my opinion only and not that of IAC or It's leadership. There is a fine line between pleasure and pain
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:48:00 - [51] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: maGz The Enslaver - That e-peen mobile of yours might have given you a few kill-mails and a bigger ego, however fact is still that your alliance have failed horribly... Plz move along How so? What stations has LV lost? Try not to speak of which you know nothing. I see why this agreement between ISS and LV came to life. You both seem to think that stations is all that matters. Where is your once so strong coalition? Who of your coalition-partners is still friendly to you and hold stations? You've failed, now all that remains is for LV to fall. Hopefully that will happen soon... ____________ The Priory Killboard
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:56:00 - [52] Originally by: maGz I see why this agreement between ISS and LV came to life. You both seem to think that stations is all that matters. Where is your once so strong coalition? Who of your coalition-partners is still friendly to you and hold stations? You've failed, now all that remains is for LV to fall. Hopefully that will happen soon... You are one of the most clueless people I have ever spoken to. --------
Excesse The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 15:16:00 - [53] Quote: IAC made a huge error on picking up a fight for no serious reason with a very serious advesary. Now they pay the price for their arrogance it seems. /bb IAC Drama queeeeeeeeeen! We're all having good fun so far, long may it continue. Pew pew!
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 16:51:00 - [54] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: maGz I see why this agreement between ISS and LV came to life. You both seem to think that stations is all that matters. Where is your once so strong coalition? Who of your coalition-partners is still friendly to you and hold stations? You've failed, now all that remains is for LV to fall. Hopefully that will happen soon... You are one of the most clueless people I have ever spoken to. Takes one to know one. ____________ The Priory Killboard
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 19:01:00 - [55] I'll cut from my norm and make this a non flame post Enslaver you have shown up in many iss/iac threads making vague threats about how you guys are coming and it spells the end of IAC. TBH the iac side does not fear you guys anymore. The threat of LV has been quite diminished when you guys changed from your olden days when your core was built around Shinra and M Corp, and you guys were a lean and brutally efficient alliance. You guys have grown quite fat with additions, some very good (finfleet), some not so much (crice corp). The thought of LV coming now doesn't inspire fear, it's more of well now we just have a bigger blob to deal with. So yes you guys will come, but if you think it's going to cause us to go "oh noes" then you are very much wrong. Come if you like, we'll be ready.
Tricit Caldari Dark Entropy iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.17 19:14:00 - [56] Originally by: maGz Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: maGz I see why this agreement between ISS and LV came to life. You both seem to think that stations is all that matters. Where is your once so strong coalition? Who of your coalition-partners is still friendly to you and hold stations? You've failed, now all that remains is for LV to fall. Hopefully that will happen soon... You are one of the most clueless people I have ever spoken to. Takes one to know one. Wow, you're so clever. Tricit's dreamy ship statistics. PICTURES SOON MAYBE!!! (NOT YET, but they are drawn)
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 20:03:00 - [57] Originally by: Layla Currie I'll cut from my norm and make this a non flame post Enslaver you have shown up in many iss/iac threads making vague threats about how you guys are coming and it spells the end of IAC. TBH the iac side does not fear you guys anymore. The threat of LV has been quite diminished when you guys changed from your olden days when your core was built around Shinra and M Corp, and you guys were a lean and brutally efficient alliance. You guys have grown quite fat with additions, some very good (finfleet), some not so much (crice corp). The thought of LV coming now doesn't inspire fear, it's more of well now we just have a bigger blob to deal with. So yes you guys will come, but if you think it's going to cause us to go "oh noes" then you are very much wrong. Come if you like, we'll be ready. Keep saying that. --------
Nadija The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 20:19:00 - [58] Originally by: Tao Han In each and every ISS vs IAC thread there are SOD cheering IAC on. Its pretty obvious to be honest. Well duh, considering we hate iss MY SIG BANNER GALLERY
Orvas Dren Gallente The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 20:35:00 - [59] Originally by: "The Enslaver" You are one of the most clueless people I have ever spoken to. Considering the amount of time you spend talking to yourself, thats amazing. EVE-Mail me for custom signature work. Price Negotiable
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 20:40:00 - [60] Edited by: Layla Currie on 17/12/2006 20:40:16 but you guys can hardly complain about lag. If you didn't feel the need to deploy about 600fighters worth of carriers the node would be a lot more stable. oh how i miss the old days when it was just bships And enslaver i hope the keep saying that was not in response to me saying i'll make a flameless post, i thought i did quite well on that

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