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YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 16:58:00 - [1] Can a Moros solo a small tower??? If so how long will it take? Can a Moros solo a Med Tower with 2 large guns 2 med guns and 2 small guns on him?
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:00:00 - [2] Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. - EVE is sick.
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Ithildin Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. Can I get a Time frame of the time it will take? 30min, Hour, 2 hours?
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:04:00 - [4] Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. Can I get a Time frame of the time it will take? 30min, Hour, 2 hours? More. Probably something between 8 to 12 hours. - EVE is sick.
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. Can I get a Time frame of the time it will take? 30min, Hour, 2 hours? More. Probably something between 8 to 12 hours. OMFG EVEN FOR A SMALL TOWER? Even if I was using sentry drones as an extra gun?
Nir Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:12:00 - [6] Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. Can I get a Time frame of the time it will take? 30min, Hour, 2 hours? More. Probably something between 8 to 12 hours. OMFG EVEN FOR A SMALL TOWER? Even if I was using sentry drones as an extra gun? Why do you think so many people are fed up with POS wars and sovereignity ping pong?
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:16:00 - [7] Edited by: Ithildin on 16/12/2006 17:16:35 Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin More. Probably something between 8 to 12 hours. OMFG EVEN FOR A SMALL TOWER? Even if I was using sentry drones as an extra gun? Yes. It takes a fleet of 10-14 dreads about 40 minutes to kill off a hardened large tower. That means it'd take about 3-4 to kill off a small one in the same time. When you're down to one, though, the tower's shield recharge actually does a dent in your activities. Do note that the above time does not take reinforced into account, just the time to get the tower into reinforced. I don't really know, though. You'd have to be rather stupid to attack a tower, regardless of size, solo. Regardless, the tower's bound to have strontium, which means you're looking at up to two extra days (although I have no idea how much stront you can cram into a small tower) or something to actually kill it. Just bring a few friends and have it done quickly. Doing it solo mean you're wasting strontium and time as well as putting yourself at risk. - EVE is sick.
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:22:00 - [8] Edited by: YAN VREES on 16/12/2006 17:23:35 Thats the thing, its a small corp, about 10 or so noobs who put up a small pos in a .4. I just wanted to bring it down... I would have 5-6 BSes for support, and I think the most they could rally against me would be about 3-4 ppl. BTW thanks for all the quick responses This is REALLY helping me
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:25:00 - [9] Originally by: YAN VREES Thats the thing, its a small corp, about 10 or so noobs who put up a small pos in a .4. I just wanted to bring it down... I would have 5-6 BSes for support, and I think the most they could rally against me would be about 3-4 ppl. Considering that you're in a Moros, 3-4 people shouldn't be much of a threat. If what you wrote above is the POS' armament, I'd actually bring your friends in Amarrian battleships. Just make sure YOU are the one taking the brunt damage, that they all have remote repairers and that they all sit in a tight cluster so they can repair each other. One dread is about the firepower of four battleships. - EVE is sick.
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: YAN VREES Thats the thing, its a small corp, about 10 or so noobs who put up a small pos in a .4. I just wanted to bring it down... I would have 5-6 BSes for support, and I think the most they could rally against me would be about 3-4 ppl. Considering that you're in a Moros, 3-4 people shouldn't be much of a threat. If what you wrote above is the POS' armament, I'd actually bring your friends in Amarrian battleships. Just make sure YOU are the one taking the brunt damage, that they all have remote repairers and that they all sit in a tight cluster so they can repair each other. One dread is about the firepower of four battleships. Trust me... it is in .4 space. and The POS cant attack ppl without be attacked. I would be doing all the attacking. Unless we have about 15-20 BSes with us to cycle the damage O btw How much damage will a Large Autocannon battery do to a BS? instagank?
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:35:00 - [11] No one battery will insta-pop anything larger than a cruiser. As long as you've got a few prepared large remote repairs ready, you should be able to attack that POS with battleships alone. Assuming it's a 2-2-2 in terms of large, medium, small battery defence. Now, if it's got some jammers, scramblers, whatnot, THEN you might want to reconsider bringing battleships. But from the information given, NOT bringing your corp mates would be a waste of time and strontium. - EVE is sick.
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Ithildin No one battery will insta-pop anything larger than a cruiser. As long as you've got a few prepared large remote repairs ready, you should be able to attack that POS with battleships alone. Assuming it's a 2-2-2 in terms of large, medium, small battery defence. Now, if it's got some jammers, scramblers, whatnot, THEN you might want to reconsider bringing battleships. But from the information given, NOT bringing your corp mates would be a waste of time and strontium. Yea Its a very poorly setup one 1 large 1 med 1 small and a warp distupor...
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:47:00 - [13] ok ok fine then, sry to bother you all with another dumb Q? 15-20 bses vs a small POS, about how much time 2-3 hours?
Aryth Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:51:00 - [14] Originally by: YAN VREES ok ok fine then, sry to bother you all with another dumb Q? 15-20 bses vs a small POS, about how much time 2-3 hours? A POS that weak means you can just fit a gank setup. Throw at least 2 mag stabs II's on the Moros. Fit blasters and AM. You will need to have someone bringing you stront is about all. You are going to need at least 18 cycles or so. Oh and get really close to shields. Even at 20km out you are going to miss with blasters some. Get tight at like 11km and you are good to go.
Hunter C8 Caldari Red Storm Vendetta	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:57:00 - [15] Originally by: YAN VREES ok ok fine then, sry to bother you all with another dumb Q? 15-20 bses vs a small POS, about how much time 2-3 hours? Just bring your Moros with 15 BSs and you'll shred it, soak up the damage in your Moros and get your friends with heavy armor repairing drones to help eachother and remote reps, that will do easily, extremely quickly... ------- Red Storm Vendetta Recruiting!
YAN VREES	Posted - 2006.12.16 18:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Hunter C8 Originally by: YAN VREES ok ok fine then, sry to bother you all with another dumb Q? 15-20 bses vs a small POS, about how much time 2-3 hours? Just bring your Moros with 15 BSs and you'll shred it, soak up the damage in your Moros and get your friends with heavy armor repairing drones to help eachother and remote reps, that will do easily, extremely quickly... gotcha thnx
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:27:00 - [17] Note that POS guns will retarget at random after firing for a while at a target they can't kill. So tell your friends to stay alert and aligned.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: YAN VREES Originally by: Ithildin Yes. Depends on skills. Would most likely die from boredom first, though. Yes. That's not much of a defence. Can I get a Time frame of the time it will take? 30min, Hour, 2 hours? More. Probably something between 8 to 12 hours. Well.. it's a small tower so you can use blasters which gives ALOT more damage than rails. Tanking it while still beeing able to fit 3 mag stabs should be no problem at all as well. If it got no hardners fitted less than 1 hour. Maximum 40 mins for matar/amarr tower, 60 mins for gallente/caldari i'd say. Til it is reinforced that is. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Christopher Dalran	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:38:00 - [19] It depends what the corp can throw at you, It will take the dread a while on its own but if you have some BS's for support just take the dread there on its own untill you can enter seige mode then call in all your battleships. Have the battleships hammer away at the POS and warp out when they get damaged (pos does not focus fire, the turrents will fire at several people so you cant get the dread to infinitly tank everything). Also you can run the turrents out of ammo but if the defenders have a clue your there they will reload them. Get enough battleships and you can probably take it down to hardened in 5 or so hours, you still have to wait out hardened mode and deal with the corps counterattacks but the drones alone on the moros should be able to keep a fleet of several battleships occupied on its own as long as you bring a full spread of drones (all 3 types or you might get ew'd down to ineffectiveness by frigates). If you WANT to do it you definitly can, just be prepared to spend the day attacking the POS and fighting off defenders.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:43:00 - [20] Originally by: YAN VREES ok ok fine then, sry to bother you all with another dumb Q? 15-20 bses vs a small POS, about how much time 2-3 hours? Unhardened small tower with 20 BS half an hour til it's reinforced i'd say. But to get some good answers you should really tell more about the setup. Does it have any/many webs? Are the guns long range or short range? Which race tower/guns? Does it run shield hardeners? ..... --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.16 19:43:00 - [21] I recall busting a small tower in a fleet with some 25 battleships once, it took around 30 minutes because the tower had no shield hardeners deployed. If the POS is really defended as poorly as you claim, it should not take 5 hours.

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