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Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:17:00 - [1] 8 Megepulse II with Conflag Heavy Electro cap booster with 800's AB II X5 webber J5 warp jammer 1 LAR II 2 EAMN II 1600mm rolled tungsten 3 HS II What you think? all this fits and runs for about 150 seconds with 3 800 injections. Cant work out the dps as im not that smart heh but it can roast a raven and tempest in about 60 seconds unless its doing something drastic with its tank. It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:32:00 - [2] Looks pretty solid. If you get into a possition where you find yourself running out of capacitor, you're probably attacking something overpowering. Or a nos-ship. Which are overpowered. So, yeah. CCP designed the Abaddon to be a sort of fleet ship, no? Fact is, it works better as a pulse boat. - EVE is sick.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:37:00 - [3] Edited by: LUKEC on 16/12/2006 17:38:02 Edited by: LUKEC on 16/12/2006 17:37:22 Originally by: Ithildin Looks pretty solid. If you get into a possition where you find yourself running out of capacitor, you're probably attacking something overpowering. Or a nos-ship. Which are overpowered. So, yeah. CCP designed the Abaddon to be a sort of fleet ship, no? Fact is, it works better as a pulse boat. Looks solid. Personally, i'd fit tc rather than ab, and more plates... About abaddon, it's cheap bhaalgorn, it's ubertachyboat and it's good pulse platform as well, but i don't like small drone bay and base ship cost compared to golden organ. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
PeoplePerson	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Ithildin CCP designed the Abaddon to be a sort of fleet ship, no? Fact is, it works better as a pulse boat. Ehhh.. Isn't it the other way around? From my perspective at least. Armageddon is the Pulse Boat of rapid firing Pew Pew doom, sizable dronebay and high DPS with a comparable tank to the Abbadon but way cheaper to replace. Doesn't rely on cap as much either. Abbaddon is the alpha strike tachyon ship, no afterburner needed just swap crystals when out of range. Fourth slot allows for dual injector and dual sensor booster setups (damps having replaced ECM as the Iwin Ewar Button nowadays, dual SB is great) Thats my take on the Abbadon anyways, i'm sure its not a bad pulse boat but mweh.
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:38:00 - [5] Edited by: DarkElf on 16/12/2006 17:41:56 yeah ur right mega pulse for fleet is kind of a no no. yeah setup looks good to me. yeah it has a cap issue but anything that last too long against that kinda dps is a good tank indeed. the only issue with amarr and gank is the em primary dmg can still be tanked by say a mega with 3 EANM II's fairly well even with the kinda raw dps that ur setup puts out DE
Dixon Caldari Hells Donkeys	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:42:00 - [6] The DPS is around 900-ish without drones. The only thing I'd change is swapping 2xeanms + one HS for 3 t2 active hardeners. - - - - - - Originally by: Ath Amon as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:44:00 - [7] Ive been thinking a drone bay full of ECM drones to help keep nos off you as much as posable maybe even swapping the plate for a ladar backup as the abaddon gets a decent omni tank from 2 EANM II and the ships resistance bonus and with the 800 injector you can get a fair few reps in with the LAR II while fireing. It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Brother Tycho Ive been thinking a drone bay full of ECM drones to help keep nos off you as much as posable maybe even swapping the plate for a ladar backup as the abaddon gets a decent omni tank from 2 EANM II and the ships resistance bonus and with the 800 injector you can get a fair few reps in with the LAR II while fireing. I'd strongely reccomend a radar instead of a ladar mate DE
Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.16 17:51:00 - [9] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Brother Tycho Ive been thinking a drone bay full of ECM drones to help keep nos off you as much as posable maybe even swapping the plate for a ladar backup as the abaddon gets a decent omni tank from 2 EANM II and the ships resistance bonus and with the 800 injector you can get a fair few reps in with the LAR II while fireing. I'd strongely reccomend a radar instead of a ladar mate DE indeed but its v late and im tired so im allowed to make the odd mistake It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------
genes Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.16 18:50:00 - [10] You never mentioned what you'll be using it for. But anyway I wouldn't want to have an afterburner fitted in any pvp situation, they are easy to fit. But the velocity boost they give compared to an mwd is horrible. Either mwd or no propulsion mod. For gate camping you might want to use a tracking computer or ewar. Of course, most 1 slot ewar suck. So you'd have to cooperate with your gang members and call targets for damps and tracking disruptors. Which does require effort and coordination, if you can't be bothered with that just fit a tracking computer. In a roaming gang you definitely want an mwd. The ability to get out of bubbles and gate camps alive is well worth the cap penalty and extra PG/CPU it requires.
Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.16 20:03:00 - [11] i would be useing it much the same way gank geddons are used while gate camping with a tackler just with better tank, the same overwhelming DPS and the abilty to tackle if my partners wasted the AB is for getting into web range but the 20km warp jammers incase i cant make 10km in time Will also be used for takeing out loggers quickly once there probed and breaking up smaller sniper groups when ive got a cov ops to warp to haveing the extra speed of the AB allows me to keep tranversal up when attacking a sniper at 5-8km. If i were camping with a group i would swap tackleing gear for 2 sensor boosters and a tracking disrupter or sensor damp. i wouldent fit a ECM to it as ECM drones dident get nerfed i would take them instead but in a camp you can expect dedicated ECM ships who will do a better job. Im not looking for a setup for ransoming but killing things as fast as i can while sustaining a resonable short term tank. It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.16 20:32:00 - [12] Looks solid. Might be worth fielding webber drones as well since your web can only reach out so far. If you start webbing a blasterboat at 10km, its going to be able to come into void range due to its momentum. However, if you start webbing it earlier, by the time it gets within 10km (if it even does - with the AB and your web drones you may even be able to maintain an even longer range) its pretty much immobile and it should be easy to keep at bay. Great thing about megapulses is that you can sit on a gate on the inbound and scram the enemy battleship as it jumps in and immediately open fire without having to change range and unlike the Raven, do direct damage. The other turret battleships may overpower you though if they can get under your guns so if you can keep the other guy at 10-15km you will have a significant advantage. Fear is the mind-killer.
Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.16 22:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Ituralde Looks solid. Might be worth fielding webber drones as well since your web can only reach out so far. If you start webbing a blasterboat at 10km, its going to be able to come into void range due to its momentum. However, if you start webbing it earlier, by the time it gets within 10km (if it even does - with the AB and your web drones you may even be able to maintain an even longer range) its pretty much immobile and it should be easy to keep at bay. Great thing about megapulses is that you can sit on a gate on the inbound and scram the enemy battleship as it jumps in and immediately open fire without having to change range and unlike the Raven, do direct damage. The other turret battleships may overpower you though if they can get under your guns so if you can keep the other guy at 10-15km you will have a significant advantage. Good feedback and i like the idea of useing web drones to take advantage of MP range with conflag. It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------
Electric Cucumber Amarr coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.16 23:20:00 - [14] Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 16/12/2006 23:20:18 Edit; nevemind i read "gankageddon"
Chronus26 Gallente Dark Blood Contracts	Posted - 2006.12.17 00:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Electric Cucumber Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 16/12/2006 23:20:18 Edit; nevemind i read "gankageddon" Yarr so did I... Good thing I didn't post, I would have made myself look like an idiot... oh wait... -----
Areconus Caldari Cereal Killerz	Posted - 2006.12.17 00:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Dixon The DPS is around 900-ish without drones. The only thing I'd change is swapping 2xeanms + one HS for 3 t2 active hardeners. This makes me wonder how powerful it would be if rigs were ever a sensible price and amarr bses could actually run their guns forever.
Brother Tycho Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.17 10:27:00 - [17] Edited by: Brother Tycho on 17/12/2006 10:27:54 Originally by: Areconus Originally by: Dixon The DPS is around 900-ish without drones. The only thing I'd change is swapping 2xeanms + one HS for 3 t2 active hardeners. This makes me wonder how powerful it would be if rigs were ever a sensible price and amarr bses could actually run their guns forever. Well as you mention it i left 0.0 about 10 days ago for a bit to dedicate all my time to rig building basicly running missions and salvageing every wreak i could and i now have 8 rigs there not that hard to make tbh. I would of had more but some idiots were paying 700k for curcuits so i made fortune selling them on for the first couple of days, there gonna have a shock when the Rigs they payed 200 mill to build dont sell for 450 mill as they intended. It's great being Amarr, aint it? --------------------------------

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