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Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 14:29:00 - [61] Originally by: Vrizuh Originally by: dabster Originally by: Vrizuh Help a noob out, why does small moon count make it harder to defend? Too many eggs in 1 basket? Smaller POS ratio? Killing off 5 poses goes faster and is easier than killing off 25 poses. Not too complicated :P But if you're a smaller alliance and cant drop 50 gazillion POS, wouldnt fewer be better? It means that an alliance which can drop 50 gazillion POS (ASCN?) can't just come in and beat your sovereignty through sheer corp wallet. Plus, fewer pos means you could probably spend more money on making those POS as deadly as possible right? And not thin out the supply of stront. I dont know, Im just interested in the inner workings of eve strategy. Seleene's post was <3 <3 The way it works is thus. The fewer moons in a system the less POS you have to put up to fully control it. Since ideally you want to ALWAYS have full moon coverage, so enemies cannot establish a beachhead. It also costs a whole lot less money. However the drawback is that the enemy can put all your POS into re-inforced in one go. with only 5 moons theoritcally it could be done in an hour to two hours. Slip in on low TZ for that alliance and you might see zero resistance. With 10 or more large more towers it becomes much more difficult to do as you have to have more fuel and spend more time with the dreadnaughts exposed. 5 Moons means there is only 5 chances you will get to defend fully. It also is the difference between 3 days of being seiged and maybe 6 days. POS's are about defensive positioning and buying time. and a low moon count just doesn't help unless you are 100% confident in your ability to hold the system. -
Kanae Minmatar Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:01:00 - [62] Originally by: Splagada nice and grats! what is the policy there? its an alliance only outpost or is it public access? (docking rights etc policy) NAP based probally so about everyone (well not my Alliance)
zykerx Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:14:00 - [63] gratz guys :) minmatar outposts ftw, they got pretty chicks inside
HellsRazor Caldari FACTA NON VERBA Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:33:00 - [64] Gratz!
Captain Kaboom Hit'N'Hide	Posted - 2006.12.22 14:53:00 - [65] And now there are two. Ka-Tet has put up a factory outpost close to the first outpost. Congrats.
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.12.22 14:55:00 - [66] Wow They don't mess around do they? :)
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.22 17:13:00 - [67] Edited by: shivan on 22/12/2006 17:15:49 Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Wow They don't mess around do they? :) Well, ya know how it goes, whats the point of having a fire if you cant cook on it? Edit, can to cant. ------------------ Ka-Tet alliance Diplo
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.12.22 17:17:00 - [68] The Establishment has visited the new regions recently in order to congratulate Ka-Tet on their fine achievement The Establishment is at your service...
Nocturnal Avenger untaught Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.22 17:46:00 - [69] Originally by: Ange1 The Establishment has visited the new regions recently in order to congratulate Ka-Tet on their fine achievement Well - next time please just ask. There is really no need to flash you nyx that much :P even though it's damn cool and looks teh sex
Karbowiak untaught Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.22 17:52:00 - [70] i wanna see that Nyx sometime.. well, without it showing all its Fighters of course! ;D I DOMINATE YOU!!
IcedBach Jr Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.22 18:49:00 - [71] Originally by: Ange1 The Establishment has visited the new regions recently in order to congratulate Ka-Tet on their fine achievement heh :) Praeludium to success http://www.rampage-eternal.net/sigs/type2/IcedBach%20jr.png Now that's a long one. Though, I'm afraid the limit is indeed 400 pixels wide. -ReverendM
Shifu Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 18:57:00 - [72] ouch, mass now have smth to lose gratz :)
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.22 23:11:00 - [73] Originally by: Ange1 The Establishment has visited the new regions recently in order to congratulate Ka-Tet on their fine achievement /waves fist at that nyx -------------------------------
thebold Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.12.22 23:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Shifu ouch, mass now have smth to lose gratz :) :)
Latitude Amarr Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.24 04:46:00 - [75] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Shifu ouch, mass now have smth to lose gratz :) :) Bold was on his luxury yacht while we build it :P
Rilariel Vanacaris Palatinii Sacri Legio	Posted - 2006.12.24 08:11:00 - [76] grats to Ka-Tet; glad to see that Trigger and crew can demonstrate how to get business done
Captain Kaboom Hit'N'Hide	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:14:00 - [77] Ka-Tet sure are investing a lot out there. Third one up now. RA has also put one up. There are more belts in the RA system than in the three Ka-Tet systems combined So four outposts now and all of them in the south/south east. I thought it would be the other way around with the first ones put up by northern alliances. They are putting up plenty of POSes though.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:27:00 - [78] Congratulations to Ka-Tet, to deploy that much infrastructure in such a relatively short space of time with the numbers you have available to you shows no small amount of commitment. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Sean Dillon Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:43:00 - [79] Edited by: Sean Dillon on 28/12/2006 13:46:11 Congratz to both ra and Ka-Tet, now its just a waiting game untill the first one changes ownership.
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:45:00 - [80] Originally by: Karbowiak i wanna see that Nyx sometime.. well, without it showing all its Fighters of course! ;D Saw it once in Venal, but tbh I didnt pay to much attention to details... I was to busy warping away
Nocturnal Avenger untaught Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.28 17:45:00 - [81] Originally by: Dianabolic Congratulations to Ka-Tet, to deploy that much infrastructure in such a relatively short space of time with the numbers you have available to you shows no small amount of commitment. Thank you. I guess we have been working a bit more on those rocks'n'rats than usual :P
yokozuno	Posted - 2006.12.28 20:38:00 - [82] Originally by: Dianabolic Congratulations to Ka-Tet, to deploy that much infrastructure in such a relatively short space of time with the numbers you have available to you shows no small amount of commitment. thx diana.. fine words
Valgren A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.03 11:03:00 - [83] Originally by: Dianabolic Congratulations to Ka-Tet, to deploy that much infrastructure in such a relatively short space of time with the numbers you have available to you shows no small amount of commitment. I would like everyone reading this thread to keep in mind, we are just as committed to defending our infrastructure as we were to putting it up, if not moreso. Valgren Public Relations AWM Ka-Tet
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Vrizuh Originally by: dabster Originally by: Vrizuh Help a noob out, why does small moon count make it harder to defend? Too many eggs in 1 basket? Smaller POS ratio? Killing off 5 poses goes faster and is easier than killing off 25 poses. Not too complicated :P But if you're a smaller alliance and cant drop 50 gazillion POS, wouldnt fewer be better? It means that an alliance which can drop 50 gazillion POS (ASCN?) can't just come in and beat your sovereignty through sheer corp wallet. Plus, fewer pos means you could probably spend more money on making those POS as deadly as possible right? And not thin out the supply of stront. I dont know, Im just interested in the inner workings of eve strategy. Seleene's post was <3 <3 There's a maximum amount of "deadliness" you can pack in a POS, based on its fitting restrictions. It's pretty much a baseline that you have 5 or more deathstars (that is, maxed-out POS's) in a systems with an OP. That said, no deathstar in the world is going to pop a fleet of dreads that have been fit with half a brain; it's just a way of ensuring they can't take it down with battleships and a way of getting some "free" damage on the dreads and carriers when you're trying to take them down with your force. The main reason to put an OP up in a system with more than just a few moons used to be that it was very easy to sweep through and put 5 POS's in reinforced, which meant you'd be losing the station the next day. Now, however, reinforced-mode POS contribute to sov., so that's no longer an issue. As Vily pointed out, now the main reason is to maximize your TZ advantage/minimize theirs. Assume for a moment that all POS's have the same amount of stront, and you don't have anyone in place to micro-manage it. If the enemy can put 5 POS in reinforced over the course of two hours, that's a 2-hour window in which to defend as the POS come out of reinforced one by one. You have to hope you're either active some time during those two hours, or that you can rally the troops enough to wake them up at 4 in the morning. If, on the other hand, you have 15 POS in system, that's now a 6-hour window (and a startling amount of logistics for stront, but that's off-topic). Starting on the assumption that the time they took the POS's down was not your primetime, it's pretty easy to make sure SOME part of a 6-hour window does fall in your primetime. Yes, there are ways to optimize even a 5-moon system. I'm just presenting the basics here; if someone else wants to go into the graduate-level courses, go ahead. I'll be off ganking Privateers. :) --P
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:50:00 - [85] Edited by: Crucifier on 03/01/2007 17:49:48 ------

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