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Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 03:49:44 - [1] - Quote The cost of PLEX is getting a bit out of control. There is hardly any sell orders in Amarr and plenty of buy orders, because nobody what's to pay 1.4 Bil. isk for a PLEX, but have no choice but to but a buy order at 1.2 Bil. I had 5 characters and now I'm down to one, and willing to drop the last until the Citadel comes out. I only complain because I am doing the My Eve forum post called "The Citadel Project" and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. for one character, when I could get 2 PLEX's a few months ago for that price. (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) I have one day to make 200 Mil and I am about to do another post on the forum and it's not that much today since I had to play Eve this weekend to make isk for a PLEX. Check me out at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425371&find=unread. By next summer I should be doing some cool videos, I hope. Just building my models, before I can.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13944	Posted - 2015.09.15 03:54:29 - [2] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Ultim8Evil Full Spectrum Inc Fidelas Constans 233	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:00:28 - [3] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels? EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? Follow me on Twitter for literally no good reason @TheUltim8Evil
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:01:25 - [4] - Quote Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.
Ultim8Evil Full Spectrum Inc Fidelas Constans 233	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:03:07 - [5] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. To quote yourself: "I was a little bored of Eve last night, so I fired up "Cinema 4D" and spent 3 hours starting to create the new Citadel. So I am making this project and will post my progress as I go." That 3 hours could have been spent making ISK for PLEX. Or 3 hours working IRL to pay for game time. Follow me on Twitter for literally no good reason @TheUltim8Evil
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:07:15 - [6] - Quote Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. To quote yourself: "I was a little bored of Eve last night, so I fired up "Cinema 4D" and spent 3 hours starting to create the new Citadel. So I am making this project and will post my progress as I go." That 3 hours could have been spent making ISK for PLEX. Or 3 hours working IRL to pay for game time. In fact, scrolling through your Citadel Project thread... Day 6 you spent 13 hours on it? Yah, hopefully by next summer I'll make some good videos. I will be doing a lot more when the winter kicks in.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 40105	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:11:03 - [7] - Quote Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels? EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash. Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort. Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 23032	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:13:35 - [8] - Quote Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Oh.. there is stuff. My Stuff Senses are tingling.... There are always dear objects that one cannot stand to sell in order to pay ones sub.. and I have a feeling OP is sitting on a nice pile of them.. id say... (presses fingers to temples.. says OOOOOOWEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH* like Mentok the Mind Taker) 5.2bil in assorted assets with id guess at least 900mil locked up in the other toons. There is ALWAYS stuff man.. you just gotta have faith. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:20:23 - [9] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels? EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash. Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort. Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active. I Know. The fact that everything is player driven is what I love about the game and that's why I am a great station trader, but I have been busy and I could buy a PLEX now, but it cost 1.2 Bil isk. But remember, I can come tomorrow with a fresh character, with no skills and make a bil. So it is all cool if I leave for a month or two. Who wants my BPO's? I am going to check on my character and then post my next forum.
mydingaling GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 23	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:27:11 - [10] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. You don't play video games but the next sentence you do play video games. The most expensive paid option is $14.95 a month. That is $3.74 a week. Not exactly a kings ransom, even a street panhandler could afford it.
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:39:07 - [11] - Quote mydingaling wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. You don't play video games but the next sentence you do play video games. The most expensive paid option is $14.95 a month. That is $3.74 a week. Not exactly a kings ransom, even a street panhandler could afford it. You guys are talking money. I only played this game to make the goal of going from trial to PLEX and when I did, I have been playing for? I think 9 months now. First game I have ever played for more than one week. "Best Game Ever". Can not wait for the Citadels. To bad they nurfed the drones since the Citadels can defend with drones.
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 04:51:38 - [12] - Quote Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels? EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? I always support CCP with feedback and Singularity feedback and testing (I have never seen you in the forums). The fact that I complain is normal and if you do not give your feedback makes you a drone.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13946	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:08:06 - [13] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. What's the difference playing a game and playing with a video editor? You're still not making any money either way. One is no better than the other. I've never used a PLEX, have always paid, and when I open an editor I usually do it to make money. A day or a weekend of work, be whatever the work is, but pays, pays for an entire year of EVE in most Western nations. Spend a weekend playing EVE to pay for a month, meh, that's just working below slave wages imo, not even a hobby but a second job, not even as good as using an editor as a hobby. I'd rather spend those hours and hours of farming for PLEX instead in an editor, then just play EVE when I just want to play EVE. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 100	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:13:10 - [14] - Quote Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. What exactly do you want CCP to do? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase?
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 10	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:13:15 - [15] - Quote Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. What's the difference playing a game and playing with a video editor? You're still not making any money either way. One is no better than the other. I've never used a PLEX, have always paid, and when I open an editor I usually do it to make money. A day or a weekend of work, be whatever the work is, but pays, pays for an entire year of EVE in most Western nations. Spend a weekend playing EVE to pay for a month, meh, that's just working below slave wages imo, not even a hobby but a second job, not even as good as using an editor as a hobby. I'd rather spend those hours and hours of farming for PLEX instead in an editor, then just play EVE when I just want to play EVE. There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it.
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:18:46 - [16] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. What exactly do you want CCP to do? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase? I heard they have stepped in before. I do not know, just complaining and getting a lot of reply's already. Going to do a quick post on my forum and then get back to some tunes and maybe some modeling tonight for tomorrows post. I am thinking of making some computers for the command center or start working on a stealth bomber. (Just do not know which bomber to make yet first.)
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 1018	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:29:37 - [17] - Quote CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy. I invented Tiericide
DaReaper Net 7 2560	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:37:57 - [18] - Quote how many times must people keep posting this topic? OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:42:23 - [19] - Quote Val'Dore wrote: CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Why? what happened?
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13947	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:45:57 - [20] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it. Well the difference is then you have two hobbies, and you may need to pick one between the two if you don't have time for both. Or you have it backwards where you make EVE into work and the editor into a hobby which doesn't seem to work as the hobby will always win. And yes I know the learning curve of 3D modeling, thousands of hours of repetitive practice to even show intermediate work quality. That is your own set priority, putting other things and even learning your editor over EVE, and something only you can sort out if you don't want to manage a balance. Getting good at modeling takes years, and can be a burnout just as much as playing a game if overdone obsessively. CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:51:03 - [21] - Quote Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it. Well the difference is then you have two hobbies, and you may need to pick one between the two if you don't have time for both. Or you have it backwards where you make EVE into work and the editor into a hobby which doesn't seem to work as the hobby will always win. And yes I know the learning curve of 3D modeling, thousands of hours of repetitive practice to even show intermediate work quality. That is your own set priority, putting other things and even learning your editor over EVE, and something only you can sort out if you don't want to manage a balance. Getting good at modeling takes years, and can be a burnout just as much as playing a game if overdone obsessively. CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed. So true. I think I was getting a little bored doing the same things over and over in Eve. Like I said I do not play games, but I am having a great time trying to create Eve. Like you said, it takes years to learn, but I'm an Eve player. We are all about learning curves
Zihao Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 74	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:54:13 - [22] - Quote Sounds like you have a lot more time to 'not play games,' ahead of you. Godspeed, friend.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 100	Posted - 2015.09.15 05:57:08 - [23] - Quote Webvan wrote: [quote=Destiny Dain2] CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed. When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars?
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:01:35 - [24] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Webvan wrote: [quote=Destiny Dain2] CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed. When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars? No, Wrong forum. I do not even know what you are talking about. I do not need bots. I make 200 Mil doing nothing but logging in and checking my orders.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 23034	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:01:54 - [25] - Quote DaReaper wrote: how many times must people keep posting this topic? How many times must I ask for people's stuff? The answer is simple, we kill the Batm... no that was the other thing... wait.. wasn't it... until I... the... hmmm... Let me think.... something something that one thing... you had me at.... no that was Jerry Maguire... or was it that one cartoon with the Will Smith fish.... could it.. no... was it both? No... yes. I'm positive it was in both.. maybe. I need some kind of guide for stuff like this... THATS IT! Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing! No wait.. what was the question? We need not the question, but the answer! The ultimate answer! To life, the universe, everything! ...42. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 161	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:03:16 - [26] - Quote Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? Pretty sure its a covert Citadel Project advert. ISD please lock. "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á \| zoonr-Korsairs \|-á QFT !
Dravyan Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:06:41 - [27] - Quote It always felt a little dirty using PLEX to me. Why play a game if you can just use real life money to achieve things in it? I'd rather just pay the subscription and feel like I accomplished something...
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:07:14 - [28] - Quote helana Tsero wrote: Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? Pretty sure its a covert Citadel Project advert. ISD please lock. No. It is a complaint. but I will throw in my advert on "The Citadel Project"
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:09:43 - [29] - Quote Dravyan wrote: It always felt a little dirty using PLEX to me. Why play a game if you can just use real life money to achieve things in it? I'd rather just pay the subscription and feel like I accomplished something... The challenge was what got me into the game. Never mind the learning curve, but throw in 800 Mill in 20 days as well, it made the game twice as fun.
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:14:07 - [30] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) So you have contributed nothing to CCP's bottom line and you expect them to make it easier for you to continue doing so? You're kidding, right? Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:15:56 - [31] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) So you have contributed nothing to CCP's bottom line and you expect them to make it easier for you to continue doing so? You're kidding, right? No, not at all.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13950	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:18:26 - [32] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars? I just really like red potatoes is all. Nope, just farming. Botting is botting. It doesn't even need to be pve I guess, you could technically farm other players haha, but yeah in pve it mostly means. It just means gathering large amounts of game currency or certain items, sort of in an easy or repetitive task to gain big amounts of whatever, usually a single type of item or such. A term used since UO and most every other mmo I've played. And not making a connection to gold farming, which too is farming but usually done illegally for RMT. Just legal farming, that was all I meant. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 1018	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:40:50 - [33] - Quote Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I'm easy come, easy go A little high, little low Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me Mama, just killed a man Put a gun against his head Pulled my trigger, now he's dead Mama, life had just begun But now I've gone and thrown it all away Mama, ooo Didn't mean to make you cry If I'm not back again this time tomorrow Carry on, carry on, but nothing really matters Too late, my time has come Sends shivers down my spine Body's aching all the time Goodbye everybody I've got to go Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth Mama, ooo (anyway the wind blows) I don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all I see a little silhouetto of a man Scaramouch, scaramouch will you do the fandango Thunderbolt and lightning very very frightening me Gallileo, Gallileo, Gallileo, Gallileo, Gallileo Figaro - magnifico But I'm just a poor boy and nobody loves me He's just a poor boy from a poor family Spare him his life from this monstrosity Easy come easy go will you let me go Bismillah! No we will not let you go - let him go Bismillah! We will not let you go - let him go Bismillah! We will not let you go let me go Will not let you go let me go (never) Never let you go let me go Never let me go ooo No, no, no, no, no, no, no Oh mama mia, mama mia, mama mia let me go Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me For me For me So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye So you think you can love me and leave me to die Oh baby can't do this to me baby Just gotta get out just gotta get right outta here Ooh yeah, ooh yeah Nothing really matters Anyone can see Nothing really matters nothing really matters to me Anyway the wind blows Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy. I invented Tiericide
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1572	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:42:34 - [34] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. So you don't play games, you just waste your free time grinding ISK to not play the game? For what? So you have another month where you can grind for a PLEX so you can continue to not play the game? I too have a busy life and a job, and I would never waste my precious free time grinding virtual money in a game to save the laughable amount of money for a subscription (if you have a job). Also EVE is not free2play, and you are not entitled to a PLEX. They don't get seeded by CCP in the market but by other players. If you have a problem with the price then complain to them, they actually pay your sub. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 06:51:01 - [35] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. So you don't play games, you just waste your free time grinding ISK to not play the game? For what? So you have another month where you can grind for a PLEX so you can continue to not play the game? I too have a busy life and a job, and I would never waste my precious free time grinding virtual money in a game to save the laughable amount of money for a subscription (if you have a job). Also EVE is not free2play, and you are not entitled to a PLEX. They don't get seeded by CCP in the market but by other players. If you have a problem with the price then complain to them, they actually pay your sub. I am getting one more PLEX tomorrow, but I am not sure about the following months. I heard the Citadel is coming out December so I might stay in without taking a break. As soon as somebody complains, someone is always "Captain Obvious" by saying this. I'm Sorry, but I know and I'm one of the ones that put in the work and buying multiple PLEX's. But 1.46 Bil.
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 07:00:17 - [36] - Quote Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk
Captain Awkward Republic University Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2015.09.15 07:19:31 - [37] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: As soon as somebody complains, someone is always "Captain Obvious" by saying this. I'm Sorry, but I know and I'm one of the ones that put in the work and buying multiple PLEX's. But 1.46 Bil. Sorry Captain Obvious is currently unavailable. I'll be his replacement for the time beeing. So heres my friendly advice: PLEX price is to high? Do something about it and buy a PLEX from the store and sell it on the market to bring down PLEX price. This thread is so full of inconsistency. You dont like video games but you played with 5 accounts and have a blog about this game? Cmon pls lock this thread already.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13953	Posted - 2015.09.15 07:24:16 - [38] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk hah you should have been in jita where they sell for 1.18b, but where someone just sold one for 12.163.00 ISK Don't drink and sell. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 07:37:00 - [39] - Quote Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk hah you should have been in jita where they sell for 1.18b, but where someone just sold one for 12.163.00 ISK Don't drink and sell. I've had that before and I gave most of the money back, but not to that extent. Sucks to be that guy right now. They missed a lot of zero's
Amber Patoria Isogen 5 5034	Posted - 2015.09.15 07:47:33 - [40] - Quote I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess. Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest. And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. 4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually. Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor? lo-++¦
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:01:27 - [41] - Quote Amber Patoria wrote: I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess. Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest. And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. 4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually. The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately. I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up.
Vortexo VonBrenner Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2148	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:10:27 - [42] - Quote Just pay your sub with RL money, play the game when you want to and don't worry about plex prices. Problem solved. ITT: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6804	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:11:29 - [43] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: I am a great station trader No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex. Val'Dore wrote: CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:13:51 - [44] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: I am a great station trader No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex. Val'Dore wrote: CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price. But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day.
Rek Seven Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering 2000	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:15:40 - [45] - Quote I don't know... I kind of like EVE being pay to win now. I used to do PVE to earn isk for PVP ships but now i can just spend a measly -ú9 and buy myself a new faction battleship to own all the peasants with. You sound like an idiot when you say "create content" when you mean find a fight, gank, etc... Stop it!
Captain Awkward Republic University Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:18:13 - [46] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: I am a great station trader No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex. Val'Dore wrote: CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price. But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day. So you complain that you cant pay 1-5 accounts with PLEX when you dont even play that mutch ? Are you even listening to yourself ?
Amber Patoria Isogen 5 5034	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:18:59 - [47] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Amber Patoria wrote: I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess. Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest. And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. 4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually. The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately. I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up. I'd read the thread but admit I'd not investigated the link to your work until just now... Station/Citadel interiors? Amateur grade it may be, but +1 for the attempts you're making and it's inspiration value alone. You'll find your wallet flashing ingame with a lil token of appreciation courtesy Dusette SquadGäó. Nice work, keep it up! Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor? lo-++¦
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 13	Posted - 2015.09.15 08:34:55 - [48] - Quote Thank you very much. I have never had a donation before. You saved me a night of grinding production and the market. Good night to everyone. You kept me up all night and I had a good night.
Winthorp 3676	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:03:26 - [49] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Good night to everyone. You kept me up all night and I had a good night. The Dusettes keep a lot of us up at night. I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's". Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6804	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:06:33 - [50] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: I am a great station trader No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex. Val'Dore wrote: CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again. Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price. But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day. A "great station trader" can log in once a day and easily make enough to plex multiple accounts. Consider that if plex were 1.5b, you need to make 50m per day per account you wish to plex. Not exactly difficult. Like a lot of the others have hinted at, it sounds to me like you barely play the game and yet expect to be able to plex your account. Consider this, you are competing with all others plexing their accounts. If noone could afford it, plex prices would drop due to lack of use. That they keep going up and you can no longer afford them is simply a sign that there are many many people above you who can. Hell, I plex 16 accounts a month logging on for maybe a couple of hours most days with every other weekend having a decent play session of 8-10 hours, and I'm not worried about plex prices being too high. You should be able to manage 1. If you don't have time to play and get plex, but still want to then just cough up the cash. it works out to be at most 33 pence (or 50 cents) a day. If that's too much and you'd rather throw around threats of sub cancellations if CCP don't "fix" the game in your favour, then you will not be missed. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Hemmo Paskiainen 506	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:14:07 - [51] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. At the same time, loot value has also dropped in isk value so what eve is experiencing is Inflation. What exactly do you want CCP to do about this problem? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase? They are "stepping in from time to time", thats a dev quote about the plex market. They are controlling it. The "fully player driven economy" is just a hoax. "Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2595	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:17:53 - [52] - Quote Hm. Sounds like I ought to cash in some of that overtime pay. If the price of a pack of smokes and a six pack of beer is going to net me enough ISK to be able to buy some shinies it might be worth it. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17040	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:29:02 - [53] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Webvan wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever. I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day. You have 2 jobs. One of them is earning you 50c an hour. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Destiny Dain2 Your Destiny Corporation 13	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:35:50 - [54] - Quote That's Awesome. I guess CCP will read this, since a 3 page forum post appeared over night. OK, I'm going to sleep now.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 101	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:53:48 - [55] - Quote Amber Patoria wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: Amber Patoria wrote: I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess. Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest. And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. 4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually. The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately. I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up. I'd read the thread but admit I'd not investigated the link to your work until just now... Station/Citadel interiors? Amateur grade it may be, but +1 for the attempts you're making and it's inspiration value alone. You'll find your wallet flashing ingame with a lil token of appreciation courtesy Dusette SquadGäó. Nice work, keep it up! That's pretty cool. Always good to see people with class playing eve.
Outlawd Evian Industries EVIAN NATION 4	Posted - 2015.09.15 09:54:50 - [56] - Quote PLEX being a high price is great for CCP. It means scrubs like me can't afford to buy one on the market and have to pay $$ to play. I'm bad. In conclusion: CCP won't do anything. Quit whining.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 101	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:03:08 - [57] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Hm. Sounds like I ought to cash in some of that overtime pay. If the price of a pack of smokes and a six pack of beer is going to net me enough ISK to be able to buy some shinies it might be worth it. You have a point, a real good one. I turned down overtime last week to play eve. That overtime would've paid me an additional $182 dollas. That day I made around 700-800 mill isk grinding missions. Plex cost $20, means I could've bought 8 plex if I'd choose to worked that OT. 8 x 1.2 bill = 9.6 bill isk. If these prices continues, then I may retire from grinding and start putting in some OT, like seriously.
Johan Civire Flux Technologies Inc Gentlemen's.Parlor 970	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:43:58 - [58] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: The cost of PLEX is getting a bit out of control. There is hardly any sell orders in Amarr and plenty of buy orders, because nobody what's to pay 1.4 Bil. isk for a PLEX, but have no choice but to but a buy order at 1.2 Bil. I had 5 characters and now I'm down to one, and willing to drop the last until the Citadel comes out. I only complain because I am doing the My Eve forum post called "The Citadel Project" and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. for one character, when I could get 2 PLEX's a few months ago for that price. (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) I have one day to make 200 Mil and I am about to do another post on the forum and it's not that much today since I had to play Eve this weekend to make isk for a PLEX. Check me out at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425371&find=unread. By next summer I should be doing some cool videos, I hope. Just building my models, before I can. Yah but its the same like cars alcohol drugs and many more things in real life. Thats means get a new job or do better at your job. There is nothing wrong that 1.2b per plex. Its economy. Deal with it. CCP dont interfere with or economy. Sign, all players. Do not come with a lame excuse thats "blahblah" its not. You want to price reduce stop buying plex. Then it will drop. Its that easy. And if you need plex to order to play then get a better job outside of eve. If you can not pay 15 bucks a month well spend the last money in eve any way is stupid in real life. There is no argue about that one.
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1511	Posted - 2015.09.15 10:55:22 - [59] - Quote why should ccp intervene with a player run market? are you special or something? working as intended. clearly the price is rising because isk i too easy to make in this game so if you want the free game work for it or pay a sub EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Barrogh Habalu Forever Winter Absolute Zero. 1053	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:08:02 - [60] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash. Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort. Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active. This is something people often forget and I agree that it's worth saying, but right now I don't think that PLEX market is bottlenecked in consumption department. Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 479	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:17:30 - [61] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: The cost of PLEX is getting a bit out of control. (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) But yet you think you are entitled to lower plex prices. Go away.
S'Way 1209	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:20:13 - [62] - Quote There's only one way PLEX prices are going long term and that's upwards. Too many isk faucets, way too little isk sinks. Expecting them to break 2bil and go higher within a few months.
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 1018	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:30:03 - [63] - Quote Let's see Ccp could listen to the team of professional economists to determine if and when to adjust the market or it could listen to you. Hmm hard choice. In before the lock for redundant PLEX is too damn high thread. Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896 Free The Scope Three
Lfod Shi Lfod's Ratting and Salvage 288	Posted - 2015.09.15 11:45:30 - [64] - Quote All I know is this: I've paid real $$ to play and I've bought PLEX to play, paying real $$ to play is so much more relaxing and enjoyable than playing to play.... cause that's work. GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
rofflesausage State War Academy Caldari State 211	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:00:31 - [65] - Quote It's been a full 41 hours before we had a PLEX whine thread. Supply and demand. No one cares if you can't afford it.
KatanTharkay V I R I I Ineluctable. 50	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:01:37 - [66] - Quote I guess that the declining numbers due to the PLEX price increase will add more fuel to the "They left because Fozzie Sov" threads
Fu Qjoo Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency 39	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:02:49 - [67] - Quote OP does your game play contribute to the overall health of this game? It seems that your only purpose in this game from the perspective of other players is that you are a PLEX buyer. This is a function that could easily be replaced by NPC buy-orders. NPC do not post on forums.
Caleb Seremshur Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance 647	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:18:52 - [68] - Quote KatanTharkay wrote: I guess that the declining numbers due to the PLEX price increase will add more fuel to the "They left because Fozzie Sov" threads Honestly the more alts that die the better the health of the game. THE GAME. Because it means more legitimate positions for real human accounts to occupy, not getting endlessly camped by afk cloaky alts, getting hotdropped by super alts, having a seed in their station screwing with the market, etc etc etc etc There are so many legitimate cases for the PLEX to rise above the doe-eyed alt-abusers capacity of income that I'm amazed it hasn't hit 2 bil yet. But it's well on its way. Also someone tried saying the OP was a parasite and that's just not true - even for CCP the player who eats the most PLEX to play is making them more money through channeling money->time. PLEX is an extremely ineffective way for someone who wants to play a game to enjoy it unless they really love PVE. Because money almost exclusively comes from PVE activity. Almost. Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
Anne Dieu-le-veut Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People 240	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:19:27 - [69] - Quote I love it when freeloaders make demands.
Rutoo Interstellar Renegades Advent of Fate 0	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:38:31 - [70] - Quote I should have bought all the PLEX I could have 4-5 years ago at 300m per. Oh well Player driven market. CCP shouldn't have to step in for something that is entirely player driven, simple supply and demand. As someone pointed out earlier, you have contributed nothing directly to CCP's bottom line, yet you want CCP to make it easier for you to do so. Generation Y?
Odie McCracken Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:40:18 - [71] - Quote If the price is still going up, then people are still buying them. CCP doesn't need to step in and do anything.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2201	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:56:52 - [72] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: Scipio Artelius wrote: Ultim8Evil wrote: Destiny Dain2 wrote: (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.) If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels? EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert? He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash. Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort. Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active. I Know. The fact that everything is player driven is what I love about the game and that's why I am a great station trader, but I have been busy and I could buy a PLEX now, but it cost 1.2 Bil isk. Everything player driven is cool but PLEX prices being player driven is bad?
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1563	Posted - 2015.09.15 12:58:58 - [73] - Quote CCP should indeed step in. If you don't pay subs, you can't post in general discussion. Put your money down if you want a Say. - thanks for bringing it to "this". Wally. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Salvos Rhoska 1450	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:05:33 - [74] - Quote This thread is terrible. OPs shameless plug of completely crap meanderings through empty grey corridors, is crap. OPs whining about not being able to afford PLEX, when all he does is waste time producing above crap, instead of actually playing EVE, is crap. PvE v PvP
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 349	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:17:04 - [75] - Quote PLEX bought on the market mean, that another player pays your bill. The player decides, what he wants as compensation for that. If he wants a billion ISK, that's completely legitimate. Other players do not have to pay for your subscription and you are not entitled to use a service for free. Deal with it. TIA
Jarno Midumulf Riders of Sleipnir 6	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:18:50 - [76] - Quote Destiny Dain2 wrote: OK CCP. Time to step in .... (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)..... here is a tip: try it for once... saves you some "playing" time.. the market is player driven, if one folks want to pay 1.2b or hek even 2b for a plex then the price will rice indeed.. if they don't.. we will get an oversupply and the price will fall again..
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 9563	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:30:25 - [77] - Quote What I saw you have this thing to create. Your creativity is in the theme of EVE but there is no way of expressing it in the game now. Because you want to create your own place, not to play by someones rules in space when creating "content". Your a builder. Sandbox person. But there is not enought sand in EVE for your kind so you must improvise for yourself. EVE doesnt have WIS and you are building WIS environment yourself with your limited resources and time. I will not be surprised if you would leave us after the citadels come out and all you could do there is to fit bunch of modules and operate in by the rules CCP will make us. But I dont see why would you make post about it? To went out the frustration about PLEX prices? We know they are what they are and PLEX is scarcier more it costs, because surprise, people that sell them dont need so much ISK in their pockets after it costs so much. The amount of persons that would need so much ISK is also lower. So there you have it, it will cost more and more, and the price will come up faster and faster, until it will remain a non important gimmick few would really notice, like a tournament ships on market. Custom ship skins \| Since 2014 \| Character creator style "repaint" \| Bring back the dream
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13958	Posted - 2015.09.15 13:57:59 - [78] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: What I saw you have this thing to create. Your creativity is in the theme of EVE but there is no way of expressing it in the game now. Because you want to create your own place, not to play by someones rules in space when creating "content". Your a builder. Sandbox person. But there is not enought sand in EVE for your kind so you must improvise for yourself. EVE doesnt have WIS and you are building WIS environment yourself with your limited resources and time. I will not be surprised if you would leave us after the citadels come out and all you could do there is to fit bunch of modules and operate in by the rules CCP will make us. But I dont see why would you make post about it? To went out the frustration about PLEX prices? We know they are what they are and PLEX is scarcier more it costs, because surprise, people that sell them dont need so much ISK in their pockets after it costs so much. The amount of persons that would need so much ISK is also lower. So there you have it, it will cost more and more, and the price will come up faster and faster, until it will remain a non important gimmick few would really notice, like a tournament ships on market. erm more like it will drive more people to buy PLEX to sell. As for those that already do, we're talking EVE players here, avg player prolly having 500 ships and 1 million items each, and still counting I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
ISD Lyrin Rands ISD Community Communications Liaisons 41	Posted - 2015.09.15 14:37:56 - [79] - Quote Quote: 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked. As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. There is already a thread open to discuss this. If you wish to add something to the discussion please do so in the existing thread here. Thread has been locked. ISD Lyrin Rands Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

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