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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 06:59:00 -
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Only collidable objects and structures in this, 2 levels.
Tried analyzing, hacking, salvaging can't do nothing, structures don't drop cans.
Anyone has a clue what to do in it?
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2006.12.19 10:22:00 -
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Pew Pew Pew
Why is this signature pink?
It is a mystery
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maarud
Einherjar Incorporated
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 10:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Eris Discordia
Pew Pew Pew
Heh, when all else fails, pew pew pew
Maarud.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.19 11:02:00 -
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He say: the structures don't drop cans, so I think he has done pew, pew, pew.
Can you give us the name of the site? You should get it hoovering on the bookmark in the system map.
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Sunaria
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Posted - 2006.12.19 11:03:00 -
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however I really value answers of devs and look forward to them ... could you be a little bit more constructive please ?
there are still a lot of questions around exploration we do not have enough answers to
fe :
-what % chance is there to find escalation
-does the sig strength of a signature in proportion with the reward/risk
cause we often find those angel, serpentis ... whatever complexes with only few million isk in reward. But does that mean that those sigs are just big enough to be common. And the real valuable sigs are so small we hardly find them.
there are probably still other questions around the system but these just jump to mind with me
greets
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Dux Dar
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Posted - 2006.12.19 11:22:00 -
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The thing with this site is:
-it doesnt despawn after killing all the rats.
-the structures respawns
-some of the structures on stage 2 takes AGES to shoot down (and no loot). Killing of the structures that doesnt take 30 min to kill, doesnt seem to do anything (and still no loot)
The one i found has stayed put for days now, so i keep thinking there's still something to do in it. True or false?
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The reason i moved to 0.0 was that i NEVER EVER wanted to
see only every 10'th rat drop loot again... then came
exploration in 0.0 
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Sakko
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.19 11:51:00 -
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I also finded 3 times this site... I'm unable to find out what to do and after this "pew pew pew" i think there is something to do...
And for those one who are just curious and want to find a esc path...i did it, i found 2 of them.
1st was with 6 strucutures who do damage...nothing interesting and ofcourse no loot
2nd was the best one...everything starts with the Angel Fortress; after i kill the last strucuture from a amazing hard complex my expedition tab told me to go 7 jumps away...there i shoot one bullet in one structure and my ex tab told me to go another 5 jumps away ( in a system with one outpost and 50+ pilots fighting in local), there some rats...i kill one and my exp tab told me to go 13 jumps away ( np i think, i say to my self if is harder the reward will be much interesting) , there same thing...some rats, i shoot one and my exp tab told me to go to the last location: one complex with 2 stages...i did it, i make it and now is the time to kill the last boss: Gist Domination Murderer. Cool i kill it, now let's pick up the can ( here must be the reward for all my 5-6 hours work ) Hmm the wrecks show me as empty? eh there must be a visual bug...2000m left to open the can...1500...open...IS ******* EMPTY
Cool isn't? I've spend almost 6 hours, i lost all my ships in hanger( 1 tempest, 1 scorp, 1 basilisk, 1 vaga, 1 set of +3 implant, 1 set of +4 implants) i payd 30 mil ransom, i payd 50 mil to someone to help me at the final stage where i lost my vaga and the reward was...NONE
Thank u for reading my monday sad story...
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 13:27:00 -
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This special site is called Independence, it was from an Unknown sig, now I tried one shot at every collidable object and killed every collidable structure except Infested Station Ruins, considering I would need a large fleet to kill all that cos they are 24 of them.
Haven't triggered nothing yet.
TRying to get one set of Infested ruins now and see if I kill one set it will trigger something
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:45:00 -
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Eris, still there?
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Eris, still there?
probably gone to sober up after her/his most enlightening spam 
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:04:00 -
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Hmmm pew pew should have been the answer as I remember it, I will ask if someone can look up the information. I would do it myself but i'm not in Iceland at the moment.
Why is this signature pink?
It is a mystery
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Dachtor
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:52:00 -
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If this is the site im thinking of approach the station like get right up to it and a drone army will pop. And make sure you have backup they stripped the shields on my uber tanked nighthawk in no time, barely made it out.
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Hmmm pew pew should have been the answer as I remember it, I will ask if someone can look up the information. I would do it myself but i'm not in Iceland at the moment.
Thx,
You know we all love you.
Cheers
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Perplexor
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Posted - 2006.12.20 04:34:00 -
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A couple of the collidable structure in the second level are called "Unstable Wormhole" the description for this is :-
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Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole. But the readings also seem to indicate that this wormhole might not be a totally random natural phenomenon, but rather something that was created. When or by whom is impossible to tell and where it leads is an even bigger mystery.
I've tried a few different modules on it, energy transfere, webber, scrambler, nos, neutralizer, shield trasnsfere, smartbomb, shoot it and nothing happened.
Are these perhaps the key to what this is and if not, why not  a description like that makes one wonder though. |
Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2006.12.20 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Perplexor
A couple of the collidable structure in the second level are called "Unstable Wormhole" the description for this is :-
Quote:
Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole. But the readings also seem to indicate that this wormhole might not be a totally random natural phenomenon, but rather something that was created. When or by whom is impossible to tell and where it leads is an even bigger mystery.
I've tried a few different modules on it, energy transfere, webber, scrambler, nos, neutralizer, shield trasnsfere, smartbomb, shoot it and nothing happened.
Are these perhaps the key to what this is and if not, why not a description like that makes one wonder though.
a 'stabling mechanism' and you didn't try fitting a WCS and activating it?
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Dux Dar
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Posted - 2006.12.20 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lurtz
Originally by: Perplexor
A couple of the collidable structure in the second level are called "Unstable Wormhole" the description for this is :-
Quote:
Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole. But the readings also seem to indicate that this wormhole might not be a totally random natural phenomenon, but rather something that was created. When or by whom is impossible to tell and where it leads is an even bigger mystery.
I've tried a few different modules on it, energy transfere, webber, scrambler, nos, neutralizer, shield trasnsfere, smartbomb, shoot it and nothing happened.
Are these perhaps the key to what this is and if not, why not a description like that makes one wonder though.
a 'stabling mechanism' and you didn't try fitting a WCS and activating it?
He might not, but I did... nothing.
Also:
-the "leaking containers" in that other mission has
finally been confirmed to not be anything unusual, so
i think the worphole is the same (nothing special).
-the wormhole is a collidable structure, and i dont think
it IS a trigger for anything (someone should have been able
to trigger it by now if it is). But, it would be realy cool
if it was though.
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Rutger Suchev
Odessa Operations
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:41:00 -
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We have also recently found this drone site. We have tried everything we can think of to get something to happen. But nothing is. We shot everything we could, had one set of hidden drones spawn. We've poured over the entire plex and cant find anything.
Any kind of information as to how to sort this would be great.
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:42:00 -
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What makes me think there is a 2th lvl is the fact that the complex doesnt go away if you kill all the drones in the first 2 stages. It got my m8 frustrated not being able to figure out the wormhole. hoping to get some news if its bugged or just a hard puzzle.
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Rutger Suchev
Odessa Operations
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Rutger Suchev on 20/12/2006 13:56:48
Yeah thats exactly it. I went out of curiosity today to see if it had disappeared, but it hadn't.
I then found this thread on the forum. I suspect its a bugged site. I hope I'm wrong, but it all points to that being the case.
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Pixelshader
Gallente
Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:08:00 -
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well, have anyone actually destroyed ALL the structures there? I mean, It could be that you should take em all down. Wicvh probably means that you will have to bring alot of friends, and maybe that's the point.
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Milkminer
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:15:00 -
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I had (well tbh its still there) one in a 0.0 station system and have done for ages. Structures keep respawning but dont drop anything, no rats, no triggers I could workout.
Called a GM in and GM Fear (nice guy) had a look but said it looked buggy.
But it is still there.
Originally by: John Moscroft
Goons are a renewable resource. There are no recruitment problems.
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Barrel Sumo
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Posted - 2006.12.29 19:55:00 -
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Has there been no news on this? The site I found is still there, its been 2 weeks now.
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PhamNuwen
Caldari
Bungee Jumper
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: PhamNuwen on 29/12/2006 21:21:12
it seems the new level of answers is: Linkage
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: PhamNuwen
Edited by: PhamNuwen on 29/12/2006 21:21:12
it seems the new level of answers is: Linkage
Well, it told everyone what to do, and brought a smile to their face at the same time.
More answers like this please 
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Barrel Sumo
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Posted - 2007.01.03 13:08:00 -
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Sorry to push this up again but I think this really does need to have some attention. Even a simple acknowledgment would suffice right now.
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Graforlock
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Posted - 2007.01.06 12:43:00 -
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Still there, sat mocking me everytime i go scan probing.
No drone respawn and no loot drops.
I have no idea what to do with it and now found another one in a nearby system. So thats 2 systems now that wont have anything new as far as i can see. Will it end with every system having this damn independence in it :(
If its bugged, debug it....i`m sorry but surely thats what devs do isnt it? Particularly if its supposed to be part of the new content to get more players involved.
Also if the unstable warphole and the atomic warp generator thing dont actually so anything at all then can u please stop putting descriptions in like they have. It makes u think there could be a truly cool thing here, wormhole to otherside of eve or the like and so u spend hours trying stuff. If in reality its just a throw away comment its soul destroying....why not just kick a puppy next time! 
On the whole this new content seems like it could be great and i dont expect big rewards for every place u find but from the sounds of it most of the spots provide very little in the way of renumeration partic these drone ones.
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Adago Vilon
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Posted - 2007.01.10 14:50:00 -
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I found such a sight a week or two ago.
Much pew pew later we had killed 7 of the station ruins before finally admitting defeat.
One of them did drop an empty wreck. In hindsight we should have tried to salvage the wreck although none of us had that skill and also I don't know if you can even salvage structural wrecks?
Anyone else tried this/had any success?
P.S. A gank blasterthron, abaddon and muninn still took what seemed like an age to kill these ruins. So if you fancy killing all the structures, then take 5-10 gank BS's with you. However, that clearly reduces the individual's stake of any loot...
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bow locks
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:05:00 -
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ok, i've been searching the forums for some time and am no further to an answer to this question.
Can anyone answer whether independence is bugged or what we have to do to get anything out of this site please?
Its very pretty by the way!!
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Vertex Eisenstein
Gallente
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.30 14:22:00 -
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we had one of these in our space that was finished but did not vanish. Post patch its full of rats again!
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.01.30 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vertex Eisenstein
we had one of these in our space that was finished but did not vanish. Post patch its full of rats again!
It should correctly despawn now if you finish it
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Pwny McPwnerson
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Pwny McPwnerson on 31/01/2007 00:19:44
Has anyone tried completing this one yet since the patch? I've cleared out all the rats... is there a certain structure I should pew pew to try for an escalation?
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JellyBoX
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:02:00 -
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no escalation, getting a bunch of weird messages in green.
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
nothing happens after destroying the two "independence"
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BVB infinity
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Posted - 2007.02.05 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: JellyBoX
no escalation, getting a bunch of weird messages in green.
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
"error error error"
"Empty Hive"
nothing happens after destroying the two "independence"
Same problem. Those messages appears just after killing spawned BS with strange names like "swarm ÷" or like...well, i don't even have such symbols in my unicode table =)
P.S. after a new patch such exploration sites really dissapear...big progress =)
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Ludmilla Derik
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:31:00 -
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Hi then you got unlucky and no esklation for you. we got also this message but after the first one a message poped up for the hole gang and the fun beguns. too bad we where unlucky after 30 jumps. at stage 4 we encountered a dead end ( fifth stage is the last one)
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Sitten Spynne
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.23 19:21:00 -
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Could someone look into this complex? It still seems to be pretty bugged.
I've run it twice with a buddy and both times the same thing happened. The first room goes fine, then we follow the gate into the second room. The second room spawns drone rats that put out a pretty good beating, and contains LOTS of structures, including at least 10 "Infested Station Ruins".
We killed the drone spawns, but several odd things happened. The first was that several times the message:
"ERROR ERROR ERROR
empty hive"
would display in all open channels with green text (similar to some mission messages I've seen). At one point a popup message that looked like it was describing the complex popped up but I was pretty busy getting my face kicked in by drones so I had to close it without reading the whole thing.
Finally, the last drone was killed and I began to make my way towards the pile of ruins about as fast as my Raven would take me. I targeted a ruin, activated my analyzer, and the game tells me "You cannot use an analyzer on Infested Station Ruins". I tried it on 8 different ruins with the same result. I tried blowing up the ruins and they dropped nothing. We blew up 20-30 structures in the hopes that SOMETHING would drop loot, but nothing did. We flew randomly around for 20 minutes or so in an attempt to spawn more drones, but to no avail.
Could this get looked into or could we get hints as to what we are doing wrong? Personally I've kind of given up on exploration because it seems like every result I get is this complex and I refuse to run it since the effort required to destroy the drones is much greater than the reward gained from the compounds they drop. Also the "ERROR ERROR ERROR" messages seem to imply something has gone wrong with the scripting; it seems more like a test message a dev would leave in than something you'd display to the player. Perhaps the dev wasn't finished working on it but got distracted and it got put in anyway?
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Brixer
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Posted - 2007.02.23 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sitten Spynne
At one point a popup message that looked like it was describing the complex popped up but I was pretty busy getting my face kicked in by drones so I had to close it without reading the whole thing.
Next time read the message or atleast accept the escalation 'offer' 
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Sitten Spynne
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.24 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Brixer
Next time read the message or atleast accept the escalation 'offer'
Well from what I remember I had two choices: I had Yes or No or maybe it was OK or Cancel but it was definitely an obvious affirmative or negative and I chose the affirmative in the hopes it would be right. It is possibly one of the hardest NPC encounters I've been through and the message was accompanied by a new spawn so my mind was more on trying to balance shield booster usage against rapidly depleting capacitor. I suppose next time one of my exploration buddies finds it I'll twist their arm into running it again so we can test it further; I'll take screenshots this time.
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Felio
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Posted - 2007.02.28 06:30:00 -
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so if I didn't get the pop up or expedition mission I'm screwed?
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MaikAH
Caldari
Radwar Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.02 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: MaikAH on 02/03/2007 07:51:53
Had it last night.
no popup at all, only those empty hive warnings. 1 drone container was not destroyable.
Any news about it?
maik
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.02 10:34:00 -
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Even if Independence and the other drone complexes are working properly they're a long, long way from being worth doing. It takes me on average about 1 hour to scan it down and another 1-2 hours to finish it. I haven't had it or any other drone complex escalate yet. The amount of alloys you get is much less than 20 minutes of ratting in the belts would produce. The structures drop nothing, the containers are empty. The majority of the drones are named improperly (unicode symbols, all lower case, different drones with exactly the same name).
Really, I'm trying to find something good to say about them... but there just isn't anything good about them.
Maybe if they dropped a hauler spawn's worth of minerals (low end) they'd be worth looking for. Back in Stain we'd get haulers that dropped 27 mil trit, and you don't even have to look for those, they find you. A can with a cool 30 mil trit, or 10 mil pyer would make complexes like Independence well worth it in a region that's always short on low end mins. Or anywhere really, a corp/alliance can never have enough low ends to build with. 'Course it'd be a pain in the arse to have to haul that out of deadspace...
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Adderon San
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:59:00 -
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Any more views / experience of running this? Is it worth the effort? Found it earlier and having read the thread I'm thinking I might just leave it.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.26 23:46:00 -
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as a general rule, when im exploring, if the multispec probe returns "unknown" i move on to a different system and start again.
Originally by: Snuggly
It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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Zerglin
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.03.27 04:41:00 -
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Still not interresting to do.
How much spawn appear in second level ?
I finish first one, but when i see all these structure find this post and stop this plex.
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zerglin
Still not interresting to do.
How much spawn appear in second level ?
I finish first one, but when i see all these structure find this post and stop this plex.
No wonder there is a shortage of T2 salvage components. Some of the items goes for 30m a pop as nobody actually do these sites.
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Ryushe
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.06 00:47:00 -
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Just found and entered this complex with a small gang. After killing all the drones, small and infested BS type, in the first and second stage of this complex, we got a message in all open chat channels stating 'Independence Lost'. After that, nothing happened. We blew up 'Independence', which seems to be a wreck of something built by drones. Still nothing happened. We blew up everything in sight, as per the advice of Eris (pew pew pew), and still nothing happened.
There are two unstable wormholes in the second stage, which have a description hinting that something should be used to stabilize them and that they *might* lead somewhere, but whatever we tried, we couldn't get them to work. The drone drops are so-so, and for the rest so far it wasn't that interesting.
Overall, we're at a loss what to do here. I petitioned it and got a reply stating that there's a random chance that something might happen, or that we just reached a dead-end. Based on what I've read above, everyone then has had the bad luck of randomly nothing happening. I don't think something ever will happen; I think the complex is just bugged.
Any reply to this from a dev, gm or bughunter would be welcome...
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MeatwagonUK
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:04:00 -
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Anyone still bothering with these unknowns? I've never had any luck with em.
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Behedwin
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:53:00 -
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got this site and i wonder what it gives and what to do with it...
still no answers?
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GeorgeRDX
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:04:00 -
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Hi,
I had the same site Unknown - Independence - Drones - 2 stages
In the first stage I had some frigate class drones, nothing more. The second stage had no drones, just structures. I killed all the easy structures and about half of the infested station ruins. I was solo just with my meganeutron blaster fitted domi - it took like 2 hours to kill those structures - and no loot drops, no escalation, no messages - nothing. Than I found this forum and stopped to do the site  .
RDX
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moefugger
Gallente
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:42:00 -
[49]
Originally by: GeorgeRDX
Hi,
I had the same site Unknown - Independence - Drones - 2 stages
In the first stage I had some frigate class drones, nothing more. The second stage had no drones, just structures. I killed all the easy structures and about half of the infested station ruins. I was solo just with my meganeutron blaster fitted domi - it took like 2 hours to kill those structures - and no loot drops, no escalation, no messages - nothing. Than I found this forum and stopped to do the site .
RDX
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Rawthorm
Gallente
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:30:00 -
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I've done a few drone exploration sites and they do work, just you have to get lucky with the escalation paths.
Saddly their worth is tragicaly poor. Drone commanders drop nothing...ever and if you make it all the way to the end and kill the overseer, it drops a sizeable amount of T2 salvage (4-10 of most components, tho saddly no cap consoles with 50-80 of each circuit type)
While nice to build a few rigs, its quite dis-proportionate compared to say a Guristas site which has a chance of Dread Guristas loot on each level and a Pith X-Type module at the end. (Especaily as you get no ISK and its not viable to pick up the poorly reduced rouge drone minerals all over the gallaxy as your travel about)
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perfeus
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.06.30 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: perfeus on 30/06/2007 23:10:24
Just did the independence run, 3 levels, blew up 2 independence structures, nothin happens. Blew up the drone bunkers, nothing. Blew up 1 of the infested station ruins. Nothing. Blew up the regular bunkers........................ nothing.
Honestly, what exploration sites both work AND are worth doing?
All I read (and experience) is bugged explorations, no escalations, or simply not worth the time to do (IE, less isk then just ratting for 1 hour).
Seeing as this is supposed to be a profession, takes a good amount of skills to accomplish you would think there would be some fun or some profit (or god forbid both).
But sitting for hours watching a countdown for scan results, wasting dozens of probes on stupid "unknowns" that could just as easily be found with the onboard shipscanner and are pretty worthless imo and rarely (and this is truly rarely) finding sites that are not unknown.
To be honest so far I consider the time I have spent on training the skills needed on exploration to be completely wasted and could have been far better spent on something else. Further I view the time waiting to see if there is something in the system with the multispecs a complete waste of time as well.
Some things I would change...
1) Reduce the scan time for the multispecs. Sitting and waiting in a ton of systems to determine if there is something in the site to begin is pretty boring. Increase the time for other probes such as quest if needed.
2) Give some differentiating information with the multispecs for the Unknowns. Is it a plex, an encounter (IE, can be found with the onboard scanner) or is it truly exploration??
3) COMMUNICATE. Just because a site has a "chance based" escalation doesnt mean that you cannot communicate that the escalation is not going to occur. Take for instance the independence spawn. So I guess from reading that when I ran it, it decided not to escalate?? Is this in fact the case, it would be nice if we got some message simply stating that the escalation for whatever reason didnt occur so we know the site is not bugged.
For now I will just continue to ignore all unknowns and will probably just give up on exploration all together until some serious enhancements are made.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.01 14:40:00 -
[52]
Originally by: perfeus
Edited by: perfeus on 30/06/2007 23:10:24
3) COMMUNICATE. Just because a site has a "chance based" escalation doesnt mean that you cannot communicate that the escalation is not going to occur. Take for instance the independence spawn. So I guess from reading that when I ran it, it decided not to escalate?? Is this in fact the case, it would be nice if we got some message simply stating that the escalation for whatever reason didnt occur so we know the site is not bugged.
There is this message you are talking about. check the posts above!!!
Its the "empty hive" message, or for other plexes any other message that pops up in all of your chat windows.
When you get that message, youll get a chance of an expedition. In some plexes you get this messages more than once, so you have more than one chance of letting it escalate .
That you didnt get any of theses messages means you havent found the final trigger, and your post tells me even where you missed it! Dont shoot anything on sight. Some triggers work only if you are close to an object!
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perfeus
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.07.01 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Metaller
Originally by: perfeus
Edited by: perfeus on 30/06/2007 23:10:24
3) COMMUNICATE. Just because a site has a "chance based" escalation doesnt mean that you cannot communicate that the escalation is not going to occur. Take for instance the independence spawn. So I guess from reading that when I ran it, it decided not to escalate?? Is this in fact the case, it would be nice if we got some message simply stating that the escalation for whatever reason didnt occur so we know the site is not bugged.
There is this message you are talking about. check the posts above!!!
Its the "empty hive" message, or for other plexes any other message that pops up in all of your chat windows.
When you get that message, youll get a chance of an expedition. In some plexes you get this messages more than once, so you have more than one chance of letting it escalate .
That you didnt get any of theses messages means you havent found the final trigger, and your post tells me even where you missed it! Dont shoot anything on sight. Some triggers work only if you are close to an object!
Makes sense. I saw one post from a Dev where she (he) said pew pew, and others got the message after shooting stuff. I approached the independence and the ruined stations but never got a message so not exactly sure what I did wrong, but oh well. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Alerce
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Posted - 2007.07.01 22:37:00 -
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Got the message in second level, that we were on the mainhive, but none of the spawns dropped anything, other then simple alloys in less quantities then belt rats and the salvaged parts were also in less quantity and not even for t2 rigs.
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djenghis jan
Amarr
Debiloff's Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.07.02 12:14:00 -
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Yeah same here, did the drone plexes in a drake, after some escalation found drone bunkers and a hauler, nothing there, i had to fly back through lowsec with charges amd missiles near depletion. All i did bring back was some drone alloys that were worth zip. Anyway i will keep at it in hope somebody starts debugging this profession :-)
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:34:00 -
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/bump for a broken exploration site
Found this site in R4K. Found some frigate class drones in the first room. Nothing in the second. Blew up as many structures as I could reasonably kill without going insane from boredom, nothing happened.
I know you guys want to have sites with interesting triggers, but this is a pretty big failure (or horribly broken, or both). It's just tedious having some sort of weird hidden trigger that no one can figure out. It's one thing if it is part of the natural progression through the site, but having the thing be pretty much empty is just too vague.
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Loedem
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.23 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
/bump for a broken exploration site
Found this site in R4K. Found some frigate class drones in the first room. Nothing in the second. Blew up as many structures as I could reasonably kill without going insane from boredom, nothing happened.
I know you guys want to have sites with interesting triggers, but this is a pretty big failure (or horribly broken, or both). It's just tedious having some sort of weird hidden trigger that no one can figure out. It's one thing if it is part of the natural progression through the site, but having the thing be pretty much empty is just too vague.
I've come across this one too on the second plex. There was a warning sign about 60km off that basically read "Watch out for the sign." As we approached it a trigger went off and spawned a bunch of drones which then lead us to the rest of the expedition (another 4 systems...which at the end was ridiculously tough and hardly worth the time spent)
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Jaron
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Posted - 2007.08.15 17:49:00 -
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Found independence.
secong stage spawned a bunch more drones at some point... had to warp out/back 2 times... at some point i got a message saying in green: Drone signal: independence lost
but this without me shooting at the independences... after that... i kept looting all bs's... shooting some stuff, the independences... nuthin worked... nuthing dropped that thing needed to get through the wormhole...
Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.15 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jaron
Found independence.
secong stage spawned a bunch more drones at some point... had to warp out/back 2 times... at some point i got a message saying in green: Drone signal: independence lost
but this without me shooting at the independences... after that... i kept looting all bs's... shooting some stuff, the independences... nuthin worked... nuthing dropped that thing needed to get through the wormhole...
Your sensors show readings of the chart when you aim them at this peculiar phenomenon. From what little information you can gather you surmise that a stabling mechanism of some sort is needed for it to be safe to venture through the wormhole.
there is nothing to find out with the wormholes, its just there to look at. And you dont need to shoot the independences. they are also just for looking at.
That message you got means you finished the plex, if there are no more other npc ships there, grab the loot and get out as you are finished, dont waste any more time. you just have been unlucky and gotten no expedition
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Ahk'Mehd
Gallente
Wraith Fleet
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Posted - 2007.08.25 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ahk''Mehd on 25/08/2007 19:52:48
is there a reason why I can not bring my Viator in to haul these minerals out of the complex?
every other ship under the sun can go in... but not my t2 hauler...
what gives?!
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ShinChan
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Posted - 2007.08.26 09:37:00 -
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To be able to loot the escalation sites, make a bm, leave the site once completed and return when the site has dissapeared.
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Ahk'Mehd
Gallente
Wraith Fleet
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:50:00 -
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yeah - i ended up doing that.
still, i don't know why transport ships can't activate the gate.
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Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
PURGE.
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Posted - 2007.09.26 07:22:00 -
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Just finished the first encounter and I got the escalation. Carp in the first room. About 15 t2 rig components in the second room. Will do the escalation tomorrw and I'll update.
~Treb
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Sunaria
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Posted - 2007.09.27 07:14:00 -
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argh don't bother updating. Last escalation has a mother drone that will probably drop about 800 - 1 bil worth in T2 rig parts. THE END.
And quit wondering if unknown sites are worth it THEY ARE if you would just put some time and effort in exploration, instead of giving up if a site doesn't escalate and you only get 2 mil in salvage parts.
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Vhulheim Oct
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 21:58:00 -
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when you guys say 'escalation' do you mean expedition? escalation is when you wipe out all drone rats and more spawn. expedition is when you end up going to another system as directed by your blinking journal under the 'expedition' tab. please clarify.
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Brixer on 21/12/2007 11:27:35
The 800M-1B is only at the the end of the 5th step(including inital) of something the DEVs called an 'escalating path'. Now, each step is an expedition. So, you have to visit initial spawn and then 4 other systems to ripp the 1B reward.
Everything on the way is chance based, even the fact you'll probably loose your ship more than once :P
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Tiwanaku
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.20 20:47:00 -
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Be happy it didnt escalate for you.
Today I found this plex and it did escalate.
The none escalation part is **** easy.
I warp to the escalated part and I DIED in 30secs in a muninn. Scrammed webbed to 10m/s.
Stubbern as I am I tried with a phoon next, Since drones are rainbow I went for 70-88% resist all across the board. This ship survived ~58 seconds. I believe my dual LAR II's got off 2 repair cycles EACH. Over 80K RAW damage in less than a minut.
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Yonos
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Posted - 2008.03.13 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Yonos on 13/03/2008 06:50:48
I understand the whole expedition thing, I am veteran explorer. Just never got this site to escalate. What is the EXACT trigger to get an expedition?
Kill all drones?
Approach a structure?
Blow up a structure?
Or something else?
Please be VERY specific.
If you can tell me I will love u forver and have ur babies.
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James Grand
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Posted - 2008.03.13 07:35:00 -
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I believe the exact trigger for the initial site is killing all the ships in the final spawn. However, getting an escalation is random. Just because you hit the trigger, doesn't mean it will escalate.
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:44:00 -
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I do nothing but Drone sites, as I live in the Drone regions. I haven't seen Independance in awhile, but the Radiance complexes all give a message if they don't escalate now.
I seem to remeber Independance never escalating.
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Agif
UnderDog Industries
Total Eclipse Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
I do nothing but Drone sites, as I live in the Drone regions. I haven't seen Independance in awhile, but the Radiance complexes all give a message if they don't escalate now.
I seem to remeber Independance never escalating.
Did radiance b4 DT and got no message at the end not but had a nice drone appear :P
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Taguchi Hiroko
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.26 04:09:00 -
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Just ran into Independence now, went to second gate, bunch of spawns and got bored. Is this complex worth doing at all?
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Fury Remillard
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
Just ran into Independence now, went to second gate, bunch of spawns and got bored. Is this complex worth doing at all?
Probably only if you get to the 5th part of the expedition (always dead-ends on me before then so I can't speak from experience about the fabled 1b of t2 salvage at the end of it).
Aside from the scraps of t2 salvage you'll get from commanders (one per stage of the expedition I think), it'd mean running around 0.0 with some poor sucker in a hauler to get the mins from each stage to get any kind of reward.
Myself and a mate or two have tried maybe 15 expeditions so far, and they always dead-end before reaching the 5th pocket, after spending many hours on them - a bit sick of wasting time on all of them tbh for the crud rewards, but drones ones in particular I flat out ignore now.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.22 12:32:00 -
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Found this plex shortly before downtime. Began running it right after. At warp in 5 frigate drones spawn. Upon reaching the 50km away gate 8 more spawn. Entered second room, empty. Killed everything that was kill able. Still nothing
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Shoot Him
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Posted - 2008.06.27 13:30:00 -
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FYI
was doing an escalation i think, I was sent 30 jumps in total in hostile territory.
Lost my Golem in first or second system, got scrammed and was beaten like I stole something.
So i took a Reg Raven when i warped in I made a bm and warped out before they could scram me. It was taking much longer in reg raven but I made to to last system I think. It was the 4th or 5th i was sent to. But ill be dammed if when i made my bm to warp back in the site had despanwed and I the mission was gone from my journal
if you try to solo like I do it might be a good idea to try to get your cov ops to follow into the plex just incase it despawned because I left the combat area.
ps. anything to to with drones seem to suck. so I dont do drone sites anymore
pss. back in my Golem and they are so 
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