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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:21:00 -
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*hint* eve is just a game. a great one, but still. just a game.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 00:51:00 -
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I consider myself a fairly honorable fighter, for a heartless pirate who mercilessly ambushes anyone weaker than myself so I can destroy them and pick over the wreckage of their ships. But I don't really see a problem with his self-destructing.
If you can't kill him before his self-destruct timer wears down, then using it to deny you the fruits of victory is, to me, a perfectly valid tool of war. In the old days, crops would be burned and livestock slaughtered before the land was overrun by invaders. Self-destruction is the Eve equivalent.
If he had logged to avoid you, if he had used some other borderline exploit I'm not aware of, I'd be right there with you. But self-destruct has a timer for a reason. If it was an instant process, it would be an exploit. As it is, it's in-game for a reason, and that's the reason.
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Squirrrel
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Squirrrel on 20/12/2006 01:27:38 Changed my mind.
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vile56
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.20 01:48:00 -
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atleast he didnt warp of with stabs
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: vile56 atleast he didnt warp of with stabs
QFT. Preach on, brother. _
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Tappad Bakomenvagn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.20 09:36:00 -
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To blow yourself/ship up in order to prevent the enemy from getting their hands on your equipment so they can't arm themselves with your weapons?
Hmmm could be seen as a honorable act imo 
-Tappad
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PCaBoo
Newbies On Xstacy
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Posted - 2006.12.20 09:52:00 -
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Jeez, i'm a noob and i'm already noticing a huge decline in the maturity of the playerbase on eve. Just move on to the next victim.
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Ash Vincetti
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.20 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 20/12/2006 10:00:38 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 20/12/2006 10:00:07
Quote: Seppuku was integral to bushido, and was used to extenuate shame or avoid capture by enemy. In EVE, capture is impossible. Instead, self-destructing would be the same as a warrior committing suicide on the battlefield. Not very honourable.
No sir, self-destructing is the only way to avoid the Capture of his assets once his ship is destroyed. Maybe he had modules that he did not want falling on enemy hands. Thus, if you are bringing bushido and seppuku, the honorable way of avoiding capture, is to self-destruct your assets.
It seems, however, that you are not upset by a dis-honorable death, but rather, that his assets were destroyed and you were denied loot/killmail, which, in Eve terms, is comparable to capture. -----
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Midshipman
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.20 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Dana Barrett Sounds like he committed seppuku, which to many is the most honorable death of all.
Did you conveniently ignore my post?
Seppuku is not a synonym for suicide. Seppuku is a very distinct form of suicide, a ritual suicide by disembowelment. Seppuku was integral to bushido, and was used to extenuate shame or avoid capture by enemy. In EVE, capture is impossible. Instead, self-destructing would be the same as a warrior committing suicide on the battlefield. Not very honourable.
Wow. You have an amazingly poor grasp of Bushido. Committing suicide on the battlefield was actually a common practice for important Samurai who had lost a battle and were at risk of being captured. And capture in Eve is indeed possible. How do people ransom pods or ships without "capturing" them?
Secondly, you are pretty naive to expect someone to just hand over any of their equipment to their enemies if they have a way to avoid it (especially a legitimate tactic like self-destruct).
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.12.20 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gone''Postal on 20/12/2006 10:58:20 2 Mins to blow up your own ship...
My time on eve is limited, if i had someone keeping me there for 2 min's Id self pop.. better then wasting my night of playing time stuck somewhere because the other guy found it either funny or lost the ability to fire a weapon.
You want the killmail.. then kill him.
The man without a face... Still. The Company without a clue...Still.
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Thufir Hawats
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Posted - 2006.12.20 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus I don't see any lack of honor here, you guys didn't get yourself a killmail and are now trying to tarnish somebodys reputation for it.
Seconded. I'd even say it IS HONOURABLE to deprive people jumping at me of the satisfaction and loot. You know, people objecting against unconsentual PvP are always told that EVE is built that way, love it or leave it. Same here.
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Tappad Bakomenvagn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.20 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tappad Bakomenvagn on 20/12/2006 12:02:28 Look, part if not all of the fun in ganking another player is because you know you are ****ing him off, so what can your target do to pay back?
Selftermination=You are deprived of loot/Creds for kill/Killmail=YOU are the one ending up bursting a vein.
OP, here's a question for you: Do You think other players pay for their accounts so THEY can enjoy playing OR do You think They are all coughing up Ç16/month so that YOU can have fun in EvE?
Damn crybabies, "Mwaahaaa he responded dishonorably to my dishonorable act, and he's calling himself honorable?" or "Mummy he started the fight, He fought back first"
edit: Too many fingers on keyboard. -T
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Kharriga
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.20 12:22:00 -
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you gotta be kidding me..
in my eyes he won as even in dieing he menaged to **** you off
awesome -
"I'm scissors. Paper is fine. Nerf rock!"
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Agent Li
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:37:00 -
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What's all this talk of "honor"? Hey, I think it's funny and great if someone blows themself up before you can kill them - they deprive you of the loot and the killmail. And you look lame for not being able to kill him.
They need to retitle this part of the forum, "Whiners and Whining"
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kharriga you gotta be kidding me..
in my eyes he won as even in dieing he menaged to **** you off
awesome
Right to the point. 
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Caleb Paine
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:33:00 -
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Yup live with it, the same thing you tell people you just killed. He used an ingame mechanic to his 'advantage'. If you don't like it you better bring the firepower to down him within 2 minutes.
All this whining about honor is just that; the mentality of a 5 year old whining and crying till he gets his present, any way possible.
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Jalal
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:34:00 -
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To all you lame *** pvpers that talk about salakhar whining over the lose of loot and killmail should stop and think bout the words 'ROLE PLAY' now let me say it again just so you get it 'ROLE PLAY' ..... The DWH guy lost his battle fair and square, if your in lowsec you know the score, pirates and pvpers fight to kill, this is EvE people......... His death has been documented and I for one an very happy about this, its on the record now........
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.21 00:15:00 -
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Jala, what is your point anway? Sorry, I really cant understand the message you want to get across...
Amarr racial trait: Nerfbat damage resistance 0% |

I Feelit2
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.21 00:26:00 -
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you all do understand this is a game... honor and that stuff does not apply, lol if it did apply you would all be war criminals....
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RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.21 03:29:00 -
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SASripper was almost certainly the best PVPer in Contraband, and a pretty cool guy.
when i read the thread i expected the whine to be about someone logging, tbh selfdestructing without dying to a gank/blob compared to your numbers is nothing near dis-honourable. its called smart, if your going to die would you do something within game mechanics that deprived your victim of all your loot? hell i would
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Balor Rand
Caldari Continuum Rift
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Posted - 2006.12.21 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Balor Rand on 21/12/2006 03:32:30
Quote: you all do understand this is a game
Exactly. And its pronounced yall ... not you all.
Balor Rand "In death everyone is equal. In death everyone is just another frozen corpse." |

Speed Devil
Caldari Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.21 03:47:00 -
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i only play eve to **** people off, this is how i enjoy the game the most
so i agree with the guy selfdestructing 
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.12.21 22:52:00 -
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Think it is time for me to replay ^^
I was semi-afk in an ss with my friend spacehobo who was also afk I returned with an azuru scambling and damping me and a badly fitted blasterthron closing and a bb jamming.
So of course I go for megathron start digging in while trying to get my afk m8 back. He comes back and find himself cycled jammed.
I was tanking them for a prolonged period and couldnÆt do much do to the jamming damp combo so I could not lock back. Realizing that the damage is so poor I decided to self destruct as am not letting a killmail fall away needlessly.
Also for you to talk about honour is quite ironic for the duration of a diewh contact you saw fit to stay docked with you corp m8s and had no willingness to fight.
Originally by: salakhar he even had the nerve to request of me a 1 vs 1 that i obviously denied him.
Also after the destruction of the domi I callanged you to a 1v1 blasterthron fight you decline as "its not the way I fight" if you cant even beat me 3v2 how you going 2 do it 1v1.
Originally by: salakhar lets see now if he got the nerve to reply to this one :)
And it would be a good idea to tell me you made this post or at least have the nerve to say it to my face.
And its good to see the community is smart enough to relize your just a cry baby.
"OMG11111111111 I DIDNT GET KILLMAIL" " My badly fitted megathron cant break sas's tank in around 4 minutes"
hope this frustrates you more 
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.12.21 23:00:00 -
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ohh yeah and it was single rep and cap injector.
Dont try to guess setups you didnt get killmail or loot so how would you know. 
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.12.21 23:37:00 -
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I've self destructed several times, I alwayse put good tanks on my ships and I have been playing long enough to know if a battle is winnable or if it will just drag on until my eventual defeat.
If i know its hopeless i WILL self destruct my ship to prevent the enemies from getting any loot, i will also eject prior to destruction to use that time to safely escape in my pod. I'f i'm going to eject to ensure i have time to escape why on earth would i leave my ship there to be comandered by the enemy?
Simple, i would not.
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Raven03
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Raven03 on 22/12/2006 01:27:48 GO RIPPER, whatever he does is his problem if you couldn't get a scram and web on him heres a tech 2 tissue
At least he wasn't like Mc "WAIT GUYS WE NEED AT LEAST 3 CARRIERS TO GO INTO A 30 on 30 BS FIGHT"
True story that is 
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SaintVash
Gallente Revelations Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 01:34:00 -
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wait lemme get this stright.. you had them in a 3v2 AND YOU COULDNT KILL HIM WITHIN THE 2 MINUETS OF HIS SELF DESTRUCT TIME!>?!?!?!! AHHAHAHAHAH YOU DON't DESERVE A KILL MAIL
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: salakhar Edited by: salakhar on 19/12/2006 17:06:00 Whine.
Fixed.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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DELAAN
Gallente Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.22 02:57:00 -
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OMG Boys break out the Beavers we need a Dam built fast the Whining River is filling Fast!!!!! 
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Maxamus Rex
Caldari Nevada Space Salvage
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:36:00 -
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in many navy's around the world and though out history scuttling ones ship so the enemy can not capture it was an honourable way to end a losing battle. The most famous example is the Graf Spre in 1939 during WWII.
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