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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8621
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Posted - 2015.09.23 16:12:55 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Not sure I buy your complete lack of knowledge of EVE history...oh wait, I do. Someone needs to go back to EVE history 101 and study why newbies these days are missing large gaps of what makes this game great. How is posting a fail fit like yours going to teach those new players the history of the game you seem to think they are lacking? A combo fit like yours MAY have worked in the dark ages (pre 2010) but it has not worked since I started (2010) and they do not work today so how is it even relevant to the questions being asked by the OP? Wondering how and why you think I need to study the history of this game simply because I called you out for posting a fail fit?
Listen, and listen well - the fit itself is history. Google the first line of the post to see a piece of EVE history in the making.
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1123
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Posted - 2015.09.24 06:58:30 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Noobs R Us wrote:Bumblefck wrote:My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I troll post Ship Fitting Guide
For old time's sake. Because that thing was amazing. Forum gold. Right up there with the Templar thread where even CCP devs started trolling the thread.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=680281
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2015.09.24 13:53:05 -
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I guess you had to be there... |
Thomas Lot
Mechanical Engineers
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Posted - 2015.09.24 14:19:18 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:look up the item "ship fitting guide" in game, it is a reference to an old forum post. and yes the fit was awful at the time it was posted. I don't think it was ever a relevant fit. Ever since then it has been a joke to paste the fit into threads where people ask about ravens. Learn something every day. Still wondering how and why it is appropriate to post such a thing in response to a new players questions about a ship fit? especially when there is nothing that in any way indicates that it is supposed to be a joke. I don't know about you but I get fail fits like this sent to me by new players all the time, how is one of them supposed to be able to differentiate a good fit from a fail one when they do not have the experience and knowledge to tell them apart?
That one is easy. Let them try to fit their first Raven out with that fit. When it explodes spectacularly, they may actually try it again. When that one explodes they may do some real research on why things work the way they do.
Two things happen. 1) The new player learns a bit about the game the way they are supposed to learn. 2) It leaves open slots for replacement ships for the industrialists to fill. Everyone wins! \o/ |
Hochopepa
POS Consultants Group LLC
3
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Posted - 2015.09.24 19:31:12 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I guess you had to be there...
You did, and it was.... hilarious
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
403
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Posted - 2015.09.24 19:46:44 -
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Hochopepa wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:I guess you had to be there... You did, and it was.... hilarious I will have to take your word for it as that is not the case now. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
551
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Posted - 2015.09.28 00:43:53 -
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Yolli Sly wrote:With Rattle (with Domi too i think, ton'`t know ) + sentry you are sitting duck. Each rat not lazy shoots and strikes. And after first webbed and lost Gecko you stop loving Rattle.
Flay Barghest for same ISK. Evolution (+bonus room) - 40 min in "kill_them_all" mod. Funny boat (not against Guristas, however). Yet another player proves why it is bad to use the Gecko for most level 4 missions. Your failure to understand the inherent weaknesses of the Gecko as a level 4 damage tool does not decrease the viability of the Rattle as a mission ship.
Thomas Lot wrote:That one is easy. Let them try to fit their first Raven out with that fit. When it explodes spectacularly, they may actually try it again. When that one explodes they may do some real research on why things work the way they do.
Two things happen. 1) The new player learns a bit about the game the way they are supposed to learn. 2) It leaves open slots for replacement ships for the industrialists to fill. Everyone wins! \o/
Bumblefck wrote:Listen, and listen well - the fit itself is history. Google the first line of the post to see a piece of EVE history in the making. Other than a way of fulfilling some sadistic need to see new players loose expensive(to them) ships and possibly rage quit what advantage is there to posting these things from the dark ages of EvE without some form of clue that there is a joke afoot? I sent the link to more than a dozen players I know that started before 2008 and none of them had ever heard of your little joke how is a new player supposed to know.
I guess it all comes down to a basic outlook on the whole thing. I have this truly antiquated idea that we as veteran players have a responsibility to actually "help" the new players instead of leading them down a path that is likely to see them loosing an expensive (to them) ship and possibly rage quitting. |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2015.09.28 00:50:17 -
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They're just being hipster about the joke. |
The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden Haven.
11
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:13:06 -
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****ing hipsters are everywhere these days |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
427
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Posted - 2015.09.29 14:50:04 -
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The Bigpuns wrote:****ing hipsters are everywhere these days Does that mean not being hipster is now considered hipster?
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PecX Ocedei
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.09.29 19:55:28 -
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#4 - 2015-09-29 19:53:26 UTC | I personally love the Raven. However I would definatly suggest the Raven Navy Issue, as it is leagues above the Raven. My bling fit one would solo 10/10 without breaking a sweat. Anyway I threw together a Raven fit that is decent.
High 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Loaded with proper damage type Caldari Navy Missile) Utility Slot (Salvager, tractor, etc etc)
Mids Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II (or specific to what you are fighting) Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II 100 MN Afterburner II
Lows Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Rigs Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
How to fly it Keep your active tank on unless you are running the AB (It last around 7 minute with it running). You are Cap stable with the Shield booster running, so keep it running. You have an awesome range with the cruise missiles so there is no need to close distance to anything unless you are looting. The Cap battery should give you some help against nuets so that is helpful against Blood raiders. The Gist Shield booster is on the blingy side I know, but it is there for cap stability. Have a flight of light drones in the bay for smaller ships. The bay can fit three flights of lights or one flight of lights, and one flight of mediums. Use that as you see fit. The DPS output is a bit low, which is another reason I like the navy issue version. The reason I have Tech I Launchers is because the Tech II Missile are garbage when it comes to applying damage to anything less than capital size. Navy missiles are way better. As always you can bling the fit out more or less, and it will still work.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1812
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Posted - 2015.09.29 20:48:14 -
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thats like the cookie cutter pimp raven from 2007, we are however in 2015 and cccs don't go on mission ravens anymore. Don't need full rigors and painters with faction missiles, but without fury missiles raven damage is just meh. might as well fly a domi and just afk faceroll stuff with sentries.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4684
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Posted - 2015.09.30 03:22:51 -
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Is it too late to put a vote in for the Rattlesnake? Only 100 million ISK more for the hull...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1543
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Posted - 2015.09.30 04:01:26 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Is it too late to put a vote in for the Rattlesnake? Only 100 million ISK more for the hull...
Unlike a lot of other ships (which cost more to make then just going out and buying one) the rattler is generally cheaper if you buy the BPC on contracts (shop around though) and make one yourself.
Regardless, don't break it. Good tank is not the same as invulnerable.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
471
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:01:39 -
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I enjoyed the Dominix a lot before the changes in drone aggro mechanics. Now all that drone management is too much fuss. Raven is kind of boring though.
Have you considered Maelstrom or Megathron? |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1840
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Posted - 2015.10.03 22:03:09 -
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with sentry drones the changes to drone aggro almost don't matter. Just have to scoop/deploy every now and then, and they have enough hp you don't even have to constantly pay attention. and for the most part with the bonuses lights will take out elite frigs before they are a problem, if your sentries don't snipe them first.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Helena Khan
Ministry Of Reverse Engineering Special Circumstances Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.10.04 20:13:01 -
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Raven plus RHML is worth considering provided you're happy with managing the reload times. Better DPS than cruise, though the range is considerably shorter. VERY good damage application meaning less reliance on drone skills. Cheap to do too and a relatively quick train if you're stepping up from missile based cruiser hulls. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.10.05 18:34:12 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Hochopepa wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:I guess you had to be there... You did, and it was.... hilarious I will have to take your word for it as that is not the case now.
Oh did you read the thread? where he posts the fail fit over and over again and gets a reply of:
Joshua DeakinPosted - 2008.01.11 12:55:00 - [15]
Oh god... please stop. Once is enough... The "post reply" is not a "WARP DAMMIT!" button.
Still funny to me 7 years later That whole thread was comedy gold to near rival the best " I accidently the whole..." thing.
Will gank for food
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Hoinus
Duty Free Exchange
10
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:02:58 -
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I'm having a blast with my Navy Dominix. Fit for all gank and decent enough resist and LMJD. Having beefy rails and sentry drones alpha everything is nice. |
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