EVE Search - Lets make mining fun and more profitable.

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Lets make mining fun and more profitable.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Adama Ironhorse	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:00:00 - [1] Edited by: Adama Ironhorse on 19/12/2006 23:00:29 Hi all, I was mining today and I had an idea come to me (it didn't hurt). Mining would be more fun if there was some challenge to it. My idea is this, introduce a mini game that has something to do with the type of ore your mining that, when played well, will increase your yield. the game wouldn't have to be to hard, just hard enough that a computer couldn't really do it as well as a human. That way the macro miners wont be able to do it unless there actually watching and it will help keep mining interesting. Just an idea i had, thanks.
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:04:00 - [2] sort of good idea but instead of giving an increase to ore is you play it well the absolute MAX you can get should be what we get today and then as you do worse you get less. Mining DOES NOT need to be more profitable. Still, good idea. "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Insidi Us Amarr The Imperial Commonwealth The Sundering	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:04:00 - [3] Didn't SWG have some sort of prompt that came up randomly while mining that required you to click OK or else you'd be damaged? If you clicked OK, then you get +10% yield, if not, you get dinged for 30% health. Could also work like EQ2's crafting system, where events come up and if you don't address each event with a specific move, you lose your chance to make a perfect item, and have to settle for a 90% efficiency item. Either one would be better than the current system. -----------
Alora Venoda	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:04:00 - [4] ooo how about a little tetris game? or dig-dug? lol
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:05:00 - [5] I've always thought of this as a good idea, except IMO it should be required for mining period (though not necessarily ice mining, maybe, to give the miners an option to relax). This would mean it would be absolutely impossible to run 10 mining accounts at once and the ISK farmers would get the shaft. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (Back up!)
Necrosmith Gallente Wife lets me play corp	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:05:00 - [6] No. Best Regards, --Necro ------------- "Isk is cheap. Life is cheaper. This week, they're having a sale on both."
Ilyrana Minos Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Insidi Us Didn't SWG have some sort of prompt that came up randomly while mining that required you to click OK or else you'd be damaged? If you clicked OK, then you get +10% yield, if not, you get dinged for 30% health. Could also work like EQ2's crafting system, where events come up and if you don't address each event with a specific move, you lose your chance to make a perfect item, and have to settle for a 90% efficiency item. Either one would be better than the current system. When you where surverying sometimes you would get a random prompt about finding a richer ore or somethign like that I remember but space mining in SWG is like playing asteroids on *****. Ilyrana Minos Soul owner Minos Mining Corp
CharlieMurphy Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:11:00 - [8] Edited by: CharlieMurphy on 19/12/2006 23:11:54 nm :(
Shakuul Caldari The Imperial Commonwealth The Sundering	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Necrosmith No. omg macrominer!
DefJam101 Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:18:00 - [10] No real way to make mining more fun without giving it tons of uneeded penalties. The most fun it should be is a mindless activity to watch a movie whilst doing. *** Sorry mods, edited sig and forgot to save for web.
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Shakuul Originally by: Necrosmith No. omg macrominer! BURN HIM!! j/k how about...mmm...Asteroids? Originally by: oveur EVE is primarily a PVP game from the following dev post
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:38:00 - [12] When mining in .0 I like to play the "watch local like a hawk" game _______________________________
Terminal Entry New Fnord Industries	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Elliot Reid When mining in .0 I like to play the "watch local like a hawk" game QFT In high sec it would be more interesting if the rat spawn rate was a lot higher! Say ten times what it is now? That'll keep the miners on their toes.
Lord Rah 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:09:00 - [14] Edited by: Lord Rah on 20/12/2006 00:09:48 I think the challenge and reward increases as the security rating decreases. :-) If you get bored of mining you could train some other skills while you're mining and steer a different direction for a little while. That's what's so great about this game! Custom Sigs
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:30:00 - [15] Spawn rate increase sound fine, but should be the case all over eve. And making rats switch targets might helps also. Tetris sounds cool too, you make 4 lines "your cargohold just filled up with .." However, i dont mine so i cant care less, its just unfair that others make money with 15-25 accounts while doing nothing. Kicoughis, Tarcoughon eh eh .. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Syrec Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:39:00 - [16] Random events at belts that would alert the miner that a signal was picked up of an incoming pirate raid, and that they have 15 minutes to call on reinforcements. The miner tells combat pilots and they show up to protect the miner. Good bounties and fun for all.
Zeko Rena	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:47:00 - [17] Just make EVE Solitare
SSgt Sniper Gallente Zekarus Ltd.	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Adama Ironhorse Edited by: Adama Ironhorse on 19/12/2006 23:00:29 Hi all, I was mining today and I had an idea come to me (it didn't hurt). Mining would be more fun if there was some challenge to it. My idea is this, introduce a mini game that has something to do with the type of ore your mining that, when played well, will increase your yield. the game wouldn't have to be to hard, just hard enough that a computer couldn't really do it as well as a human. That way the macro miners wont be able to do it unless there actually watching and it will help keep mining interesting. Just an idea i had, thanks. Yes let's do something ELSE to annoy the average casual gamer. --------- Gallente need ONE ship with an ecm bonus option. JUST ONE.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:51:00 - [19] Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 20/12/2006 00:52:19 Why does it seem like everyone always wants to interfere with someone else's game? Believe it or not most "Miners" enjoy kicking back and participating in some brainless activity. Plus many more casual miners aren't exactly just ignoring everything happening, I know I am constantly discussing things with corp mates and dragging that lump of ore into the container every 60 seconds so my hold doesn't fill up..... Mining IRL involves shoveling a lot of dirt with some excitement once a year or so. EvE's mining is like that. Let it stay as it is, we don't need more random things "just because". //------added ------------ I don't have any issue with the OP's idea, but a lot of the responses yell "Nerf Mining!!!!!". <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:52:00 - [20] Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: Adama Ironhorse Edited by: Adama Ironhorse on 19/12/2006 23:00:29 Hi all, I was mining today and I had an idea come to me (it didn't hurt). Mining would be more fun if there was some challenge to it. My idea is this, introduce a mini game that has something to do with the type of ore your mining that, when played well, will increase your yield. the game wouldn't have to be to hard, just hard enough that a computer couldn't really do it as well as a human. That way the macro miners wont be able to do it unless there actually watching and it will help keep mining interesting. Just an idea i had, thanks. Yes let's do something ELSE to annoy the average casual gamer. Casual gamer = only runs one account = won't care. The powergaming macrominer who can no longer run 10 accounts will care. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (Back up!)
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Why does it seem like everyone always wants to interfere with someone else's game? Believe it or not most "Miners" enjoy kicking back and participating in some brainless activity. Plus many more casual miners aren't exactly just ignoring everything happening, I know I am constantly discussing things with corp mates and dragging that lump of ore into the container every 60 seconds so my hold doesn't fill up..... Mining IRL involves shoveling a lot of dirt with some excitement once a year or so. EvE's mining is like that. Let it stay as it is, we don't need more random things "just because". But we do need a way to get rid of all the macro's. Its just sad to see them --- My Movies
Bill Oddie	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:55:00 - [22] Why not have a control console of sorts that pops up when mining and it incorproates sliders, switches, knobs, dials, indicators and coloured lights. By using a comination of the sliders, knobs, switches, etc you position them to keep all the lights green for max mining. If you ignore the panel, the mining lasers still work but at reduced capacity. This could let you enjoy mining as you sort of feel like you're in control of the lasers, and if you want to afk, then you don't get as much ore per cycle.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Xoria Krint But we do need a way to get rid of all the macro's. Its just sad to see them Do we? I don't see it. Neither does CCP evidently as they aren't curtailing it in any appreciable form. Lets see what happens if Macroers are removed.... 1) Prices of ore skyrocket. I would estimate that macros (and other larger, multi-account ore farmers) are providing a good 15-20% or all ore mined. Everyone could see with Revelations how ore value skyrocketted just because of new toys being available, just think what it would do if you removed 20% of all production. 20% reduction could easily result in a 2x price hike in mineral prices. That price hike gets directly applied to the cost of buying anything using those minerals, like ships. You know after Revelations released a badger-load of Pyro went from 700K ISK to over 1.3M? Just because some people wanted new ships..... 2) High Empire prices makes the more special minerals in LoSec or 0.0 less valuable. Meaning more PC miners stay in Empire to cash in on the high values. 0.0 is less effected as most of that area is comprised of alliances mining and producing for themselves. But think of the poor Rats who have even fewer targets. Also think of those modules that require components aquired from those LoSec and 0.0 ores and where their prices shoot to. 3) More people mine. Yeah!!! It helps balance things out and starts to get production costs down. But at the same time more people mining to get ISK means fewer mission runners and ratters. As fewer run missions and rat modules that are normally are common on the market become rare. Your small Nostro goes from 28K to some 50-60K. Rarer modules and officer modules become even more rare and valuable. If CCP wanted to they could stop 90%+ of all macroers based on the patterns of behavior and the information already tracked in their databases. Simple fact is that they don't want to. If CCP doesn't want to then we have no right screaming and proposing solutions that will interfere with legitimate players. I have no problem making mining more interesting, but don't make it a chore instead.... Originally by: Bill Oddie Why not have a control console of sorts that pops up when mining and it incorproates sliders, switches, knobs, dials, indicators and coloured lights. By using a comination of the sliders, knobs, switches, etc you position them to keep all the lights green for max mining. If you ignore the panel, the mining lasers still work but at reduced capacity. This could let you enjoy mining as you sort of feel like you're in control of the lasers, and if you want to afk, then you don't get as much ore per cycle. This idea I like. Entertaining but not invasive to your play style. <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
SSgt Sniper Gallente Zekarus Ltd.	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: Adama Ironhorse Edited by: Adama Ironhorse on 19/12/2006 23:00:29 Hi all, I was mining today and I had an idea come to me (it didn't hurt). Mining would be more fun if there was some challenge to it. My idea is this, introduce a mini game that has something to do with the type of ore your mining that, when played well, will increase your yield. the game wouldn't have to be to hard, just hard enough that a computer couldn't really do it as well as a human. That way the macro miners wont be able to do it unless there actually watching and it will help keep mining interesting. Just an idea i had, thanks. Yes let's do something ELSE to annoy the average casual gamer. Casual gamer = only runs one account = won't care. The powergaming macrominer who can no longer run 10 accounts will care. Actually, some casual gamers have gone to running two accounts to stop being stolen from so much. the powergaming macrominer yes would get screwed. Also the guy who runs Eve at work on his laptop and has to minimize it fairly often would ALSO be screwed. --------- Gallente need ONE ship with an ecm bonus option. JUST ONE.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:20:00 - [25] Originally by: Bill Oddie Why not have a control console of sorts that pops up when mining and it incorproates sliders, switches, knobs, dials, indicators and coloured lights. By using a comination of the sliders, knobs, switches, etc you position them to keep all the lights green for max mining. If you ignore the panel, the mining lasers still work but at reduced capacity. This could let you enjoy mining as you sort of feel like you're in control of the lasers, and if you want to afk, then you don't get as much ore per cycle. Having a sense of actually controlling the intake of ore into your hold is an intersting proposition. Letting people actually have some control over mining besides locking a rock and activating a miner module on it. In fact, it'll probably give that casual gamer who has little to no mining skills a leg up in probably getting a little bit closer to, say, someone who ignored the "fine tuning" but has mining 5 and specialized skills for it.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: Adama Ironhorse Edited by: Adama Ironhorse on 19/12/2006 23:00:29 Hi all, I was mining today and I had an idea come to me (it didn't hurt). Mining would be more fun if there was some challenge to it. My idea is this, introduce a mini game that has something to do with the type of ore your mining that, when played well, will increase your yield. the game wouldn't have to be to hard, just hard enough that a computer couldn't really do it as well as a human. That way the macro miners wont be able to do it unless there actually watching and it will help keep mining interesting. Just an idea i had, thanks. Yes let's do something ELSE to annoy the average casual gamer. Casual gamer = only runs one account = won't care. The powergaming macrominer who can no longer run 10 accounts will care. Actually it would annoy me a lot, and I run only one account. I don't even have an alt. My "best" mining ship is an Osprey. When I'm mining I don't want to be nagged or interfered with by game mechanics. <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby When I'm mining I don't want to be nagged or interfered with by game mechanics. In other words, you want to basically mine AFK and would prefer if the ore walked itself into your cargo hold. The simplistic mining system that exists ATM is boring and stupid IMO. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (Back up!)
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby When I'm mining I don't want to be nagged or interfered with by game mechanics. In other words, you want to basically mine AFK and would prefer if the ore walked itself into your cargo hold. The simplistic mining system that exists ATM is boring and stupid IMO. No, I simply like to relax. Is that hard to comprehend? I direct my drones to kill rats, I shuttle ore into containers, I target new rocks when I slaughter the one I've been working on. I don't need or want popups or little icons nagging me "Are you there? Are you there? Are you there?" If I wanted to concentrate on what I was doing I would be out in LoSec hunting pirates. <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.20 01:37:00 - [29] Mining lasers should have a 5% chance of causing 500 damage direct to the structure of your ship per cycle. There should be no counter, and no skill to reduce the chance / damage. Okay... I don't mine, is it obvious? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.20 03:10:00 - [30] you do not want random events. infact SOE removed that from their EQ2 crafting system last i heard due to people complaining it was too much of a pointless whack-a-mole. me i sometimes like to just fire up my Winamp/DVD or chat with people and sit back and relax while mining not have to play some minigame. spawn more rats if you must, my drones like the employment.

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.