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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.12.20 07:48:00 -
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I'll tell you a story - i was trying to trackdown a gravimetric site, spent 3 days looking for this site using quest probes, then i finally found first traces of that site signal strength 0.031, yay said i myself finally my 7 hours of scanning gave something. Then fairly quickly only 5 scans i got a result on a pursuit probe (signal strength 0.051) and then... I spent another 3 hours scanning with comb probes and nothing... Next morning spent another 1.5 hours with the same result.
I do think that scanning with the low range probes should be improved, given their short live span. I can't set up a web of comb probes, cause they live only 16 mins, and when i drop probes in 4 points 1/3 or 1/2 of the time already gone. So i had to scan using 1 single probe and this takes forever!
Now i dread the idea then when i start looking for this damned place after DT (you know work and so...) It will move 
This will mean i spent >50 quest probes, >15 comb probes and huge amount of time for nothing.
Yay, the rant is over.
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Yasuki Orie
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.20 08:06:00 -
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Would doubling the flight time of exploration probes fix the problem?
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Gabba
Species 5618
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Posted - 2006.12.20 08:43:00 -
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You sure you used the right racial probe? I was under the impression you need to switch to other quest probes when the signal is too weak.
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 08:54:00 -
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Well, I did my first bit of exploration last night and, while it took some time, I was happy with the result.
It took me about 45mins on the 4AU probes to get a result out of the Gravemetric and Unknown sigs that were in the system, about 20mins on the 2AU, about 10mins on the 1AU and 1 scan on the 0.5AU probe. I ended up finding a omber ore belt (5.0 sec rating system) with no NPCs. There was a crap load of ore.
The hard part is the 4AU probes. You need to blanket the system with them, to make sure you have covered everything. If there are holes in your probes, create a SS as close as you can and drop another probe in there. Be thorough, don't just drop at the plants and gates. Try stick to small systems, as you need less probes to cover them. Also, try get them to overlap, you double the sensor str in those areas.
If you are still having problems, train up the Astrometric Triangliation and Astrometric point pointing a couple levels, the will increase your signal str and acurracy of your probes.
Maarud.
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.12.20 09:51:00 -
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Yes doubling their lifetime should do the trick, at least i'll be able to setup several probes and still will have enough time to do several tests.
There were 2 site types in those system, so it was possible that i got another signal not graimetric, but after so many unsuccessful hours of testing with both gravimetric and radar (the second was radar) i was pretty sure that gravimetric probes finally found something.
As for skills i have at least 3 in every relevant skill, so it's not that bad. And yes i found few sites previously and they were pretty easy, it's that gravimetric ridiculously hard.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.20 10:01:00 -
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get those skills to 4 and covert ops 4 and a ship u should be able to squeeze out 2x scans per probe
theres also a couple of rigs u can plug into a cov ops that reduces scan time on probes ( this might be expensive but if youre doing high sec scanning) and have the time to salvage its worth a shot
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.12.20 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zar Dim on 20/12/2006 10:46:45
Please note I said at least 3. For example I do have Cov Ops 4.
As for rigs, if i do the scanning i don't have any chanse to make the rig myself. There is only one that could be helpful, and 1) it's not selling right now 2) It will cost rediculous money. Really rediculous.
And just imaging how stupid it will be to waste dozens probes which cost well 100k. In order to find something for minimal reward, so no i'm not in high sec.
A bit of update, made recently 12 scans with another conmb prob type just to be sure - no success. So yes this is rediculously hard to find gravimetric site. And yes i can do only 2 runs if i launch 3 other probes to try to triange it. That's not worth it.
Please make short range probes last a bit more!
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:07:00 -
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Erm... if you are trying to scan from the BM's you made before, then you are going to fail.
After DT, or when the site has been cleared, or some random time, the exploration site is in a diffrent place.
I suggest starting again with multi, then quests, I doubt you are going to find it using old BM's
Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |
Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zar Dim on 20/12/2006 13:57:04
This just shows how little community knows about exploration sites.
First sites are staying put after downtime (unless they are busted). And actually i was able to find a site, using 30-40 more cycles i pinpointed it up to 363km, please note even with Sift probes from 800km the signal strength was 0.33
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Iog Krugar
Gallente
The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Zar Dim
please note even with Sift probes from 800km the signal strength was 0.33
thats a rrrrrreeally low signal strength. care to share what kind of site it was?
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zar Dim
Edited by: Zar Dim on 20/12/2006 13:57:04
This just shows how little community knows about exploration sites.
First sites are staying put after downtime (unless they are busted). And actually i was able to find a site, using 30-40 more cycles i pinpointed it up to 363km, please note even with Sift probes from 800km the signal strength was 0.33
I don't think the distance from your probe make a difference on the scan result, so long as what you are trying to scan is in the radius, you have as much chance of finding it if it was 3.9AU or .9 AU away (scaning with 4AU).
tbh, I don't know if the sites move after DT, but it was said by a dev, that they move, even if know one has found them, sometimes with in the system, sometimes to other systems, no timescale was given, it could be random with a minium threshold.
Maarud.
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