hardly matters though , they are vanity items so...

Ship skins.... yeah I know shame on me for starting another thread on this Topic but I don't like the greedy way CCP is heading with the current business model in regards to ship skins.

So last time I checked EVE Online was not a "Free To Play Game" So why for the love of sweet baby Jebus are the prices for ship skins so high?

Using the base price of 900 AUR = 5.00$. You get 1$ = 180 AUR

That over 4.00$ for a Frigate and 8.50$ For a Battleship skin.

Worst part is that the Skin is only for one ship not even the ship hull. Lets look at the Typhoon, Typhoon Fleet Issue and Panther, they are all the same ship hull with no variations and yet we have to pay $8.50 for each? Come on CCP stop being greedy.

If CCP is in need of the extra capital they should drop the price to 2-3$ per ship hull per skin. If this was the case I think the vast majority of players would drop a few bucks on their favorite ship(hull) But as it stands I think CCP has its head in the clouds, I mean 36$ on a poorly done Super Cap Skin?

And before you start sir/ma'am trollsalot; yes I know art cost a lot of money but I can buy cosmetic Items on a free to play game cheaper then I can on EVE, a game that I pay to play ever month.

With that whats your thoughts?

(lets please keep this somewhat civil)

Ship skins.... yeah I know shame on me for starting another thread on this Topic but I don't like the greedy way CCP is heading with the current business model in regards to ship skins.

So last time I checked EVE Online was not a "Free To Play Game" So why for the love of sweet baby Jebus are the prices for ship skins so high?

Using the base price of 900 AUR = 5.00$. You get 1$ = 180 AUR

That over 4.00$ for a Frigate and 8.50$ For a Battleship skin.

Worst part is that the Skin is only for one ship not even the ship hull. Lets look at the Typhoon, Typhoon Fleet Issue and Panther, they are all the same ship hull with no variations and yet we have to pay $8.50 for each? Come on CCP stop being greedy.

If CCP is in need of the extra capital they should drop the price to 2-3$ per ship hull per skin. If this was the case I think the vast majority of players would drop a few bucks on their favorite ship(hull) But as it stands I think CCP has its head in the clouds, I mean 36$ on a poorly done Super Cap Skin?

And before you start sir/ma'am trollsalot; yes I know art cost a lot of money but I can buy cosmetic Items on a free to play game cheaper then I can on EVE, a game that I pay to play ever month.

With that whats your thoughts?


(lets please keep this somewhat civil)

There is no fine print anywhere that is saying, just because skins are there, do they have to be explicitly affordable to your financial scenario. I would imagine they are more intended for people who want to look somewhat different and are priced to make them more unique.

There is no way I would want to pay money for a skin if everyone and their mother has it. What's the point in that?

Nor is this a move to the f2p model either. If the game became flooded with items such as: "You can now use a stargate TWICE in one hour for x unit of this item for $4", then yeh, that would be f2p.

There is no fine print anywhere that is saying, just because skins are there, do they have to be explicitly affordable to your financial scenario. I would imagine they are more intended for people who want to look somewhat different and are priced to make them more unique.

There is no way I would want to pay money for a skin if everyone and their mother has it. What's the point in that?

Nor is this a move to the f2p model either. If the game became flooded with items such as: "You can now use a stargate TWICE in one hour for x unit of this item for $4", then yeh, that would be f2p.

Can you please stop making whining threats! The only complains i have is that the game is half finish or half broken depend on what side you are one. Skins in the other hand do not matter its just cosmetic nobody gives a f*ck about that. I can thing of 2 million other worst marketing. This however is the best option, nobody is harm and nobody is pay to win.

This complain you have is about a price of a skin thats and thats not related. But the game is not required to pay for that skin. Its a extra option and its not needing. So stop the QQ and play the god damn game or leave it and stay at your facebook games.

And i can troll what ever i want because this is nonsense. The problem is you. And i stay with that. I`m not in defend mode for ccp because we know the f*ck some things up. But this..... just nonsense.

You seem to be a bit confused. This was not about what I can or cant afford or about EVE being a f2p game. This is about high prices on multiple ships with the same hull( ie no extra art cost) being sold. Also Cheaply made Skins being sold for over 35$.

I dont think skins are ment to make you look unique. Everyone can get the skins, if not with RL money, then with ingame money. Thats no big achievement. For me, skins are just a way to make your ships look better and for that the price is way too high. For example, i really like the new Maelstrom skin, but im not going to pay 8Gé¼ for it. I bought the GTA complete collection (all GTA games with all DLCs (before GTA5 came out)) for 11Gé¼ during a Steam sale and CCP wants me to pay 8Gé¼ for ONE texture? NOPE.

BTW, what you describe as F2P is P2W. Big difference.

Ship skins.... yeah I know shame on me for starting another thread on this Topic but I don't like the greedy way CCP is heading with the current business model in regards to ship skins.

So last time I checked EVE Online was not a "Free To Play Game" So why for the love of sweet baby Jebus are the prices for ship skins so high?

Using the base price of 900 AUR = 5.00$. You get 1$ = 180 AUR

That over 4.00$ for a Frigate and 8.50$ For a Battleship skin.

Worst part is that the Skin is only for one ship not even the ship hull. Lets look at the Typhoon, Typhoon Fleet Issue and Panther, they are all the same ship hull with no variations and yet we have to pay $8.50 for each? Come on CCP stop being greedy.

If CCP is in need of the extra capital they should drop the price to 2-3$ per ship hull per skin. If this was the case I think the vast majority of players would drop a few bucks on their favorite ship(hull) But as it stands I think CCP has its head in the clouds, I mean 36$ on a poorly done Super Cap Skin?

And before you start sir/ma'am trollsalot; yes I know art cost a lot of money but I can buy cosmetic Items on a free to play game cheaper then I can on EVE, a game that I pay to play ever month.

With that whats your thoughts?

(lets please keep this somewhat civil)

Ship skins.... yeah I know shame on me for starting another thread on this Topic but I don't like the greedy way CCP is heading with the current business model in regards to ship skins.

So last time I checked EVE Online was not a "Free To Play Game" So why for the love of sweet baby Jebus are the prices for ship skins so high?

Using the base price of 900 AUR = 5.00$. You get 1$ = 180 AUR

That over 4.00$ for a Frigate and 8.50$ For a Battleship skin.

Worst part is that the Skin is only for one ship not even the ship hull. Lets look at the Typhoon, Typhoon Fleet Issue and Panther, they are all the same ship hull with no variations and yet we have to pay $8.50 for each? Come on CCP stop being greedy.

If CCP is in need of the extra capital they should drop the price to 2-3$ per ship hull per skin. If this was the case I think the vast majority of players would drop a few bucks on their favorite ship(hull) But as it stands I think CCP has its head in the clouds, I mean 36$ on a poorly done Super Cap Skin?

And before you start sir/ma'am trollsalot; yes I know art cost a lot of money but I can buy cosmetic Items on a free to play game cheaper then I can on EVE, a game that I pay to play ever month.

With that whats your thoughts?

(lets please keep this somewhat civil)

Of course they are! How many of them have you seen? I have better things than skins to buy with ISK.

As I said above, this is entirely about affordability. If you want your ship to look different, you pay your money and move on. They don't have to lower the cost just because you can't justify spending 8 euros on a skin. That's your financial dilemma, not theirs.

I described a f2p model. A p2w model would be to allow people to buy ships, or mods. Limiting people to systems (in a theoretical sense) does not make it p2w, it just limits your interaction with the game.

In conclusion, you both seem to be affected with the same malaise of not understanding financial ascendance and affordability.

I can afford it, but i won't pay 8Gé¼ for a texture which i can make myself in Photoshop in 5min. For 8Gé¼ i can get a nice indie game or an AAA game during Steam sale!

The lower the price, the higher the chance people will buy it and in the end the seller makes more profit because a lot more people are buying stuff. Thats how microtransactions work.

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With that whats your thoughts?

(lets please keep this somewhat civil)

You are obviously unfair.
EVE not F2P? Come on. Really Karl?

How much is PLEX nowadays? 19.99$ = 1kkk.
How much time is needed to farm 1kkk?
How many people simply pay with PLEX?

10 years ago, when there were no PLEX at all eve was P2P.

But today - not.

Looking good is only a luxury to those who have never tried it Jonah.

You are obviously unfair.
EVE not F2P? Come on. Really Karl?

How much is PLEX nowadays? 19.99$ = 1kkk.
How much time is needed to farm 1kkk?
How many people simply pay with PLEX?

10 years ago, when there were no PLEX at all eve was P2P.

But today - not.

Non essential luxury items command a luxury price, who'da thunk it.

Why do you not understand that, that, is not the business model they have adopted?!

But they should use the micro transaction model. A lot more people would use SKINs. It seems weird to me that CCP spends so much time to develep a technical framework for dynamic skins (a few years ago they told us a lot of work needs to be done before we can have skins) and then puts the feature behind a high barrier (high price) so that only a few players will/can use it. (From what i have seen ingame, maybe 1% uses SKINs)

Maybe they have more plans for SKINs, i.e. add corportion SKINs and make temporary SKINs a common reward, so that the SKIN feature gets widespread use and the unique, permanent ones become something special, but at the moment SKINs just seem overpriced.