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TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:39:21 -
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As a ship collector after this move, the ishukone scorp becoming just a skin where the rattlesnake victory stays as a ship (yes it matters) and the release of ishukone scorps to blink. I have now reached my limit and will not be collecting 'special' ships anymore. I have lost enough isk thanks. Another part of eve has been ruined for me.
How many silver magnates have they released? 6 factions, 4 teams each of 4? 96 Silver Magnates? I know of 6 Silver Magnates ingame currently. We are not talking about 1-100b loss for investors but about hundreds of billions! Its a lame move to pull. You could have probably got a silver Magnate for 800b before the announcement. Now as there will be 102 ingame, you can probably pick one up for 20b or less. (especially as collectors will have no faith in it holding its value, the next emperor/empress could die the next day) |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 10:29:22 -
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Tappits wrote:O no.. it might be unfair to some one... in eve... I hope they some day crash the unique's market as the tears will be glorious.
I am sorry but i don't have any empathy for the trillionaires of eve.
Why? What have we done?
Last i checked we are not dodging taxes etc. If anything it shows that we actually play the game and have a love for the game.
But yea, we are rich so screw us over?
Divine Entervention wrote:Who cares what the entitled trillionaires of EvE think, they're huge reasons the game sucks.
Same to you. Why are we a huge reason the game sucks? What have i done to make this game worse other than play it and make successfully make isk?
What has Chribba done to make this game suck? Or Entity? Or Bluemelon?
Please tell me. |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 11:30:58 -
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Tappits wrote:TinkerHell wrote:If anything it shows that we actually play the game and have a love for the game.
But yea, we are rich so screw us over? Why is putting more in the system screwing you over? If someone buys a Gǣlimited issue specialGǥ You paid what you deemed to be a reasonable price at the time to own that shipGǪ well sometimes the cost of things goes down as well as up. Yer so what you paid 200bill for something.. if someone can get it for 150 now it does not make yours worth 50 less unless the only resign you got it in the first place was to make money off it. You still get the use of the thing for as long as you like (which is forever as no one ever uses them)
I use AT ships all the time thanks. I wouild of used the silver magnate if it was actually any good as well.
The silver magnate was the rarest ship i could collect except the several trillion isk BS. I spent thousands of hours getting the isk together to get this ship, it was the pinnacle of my collection. One side of this game that i enjoy is collecting rare ships. That ship is no longer rare, i feel like i have wasted my time and could of just waited and bought one for 20b. How is that not screwing me over? There are 6 silver magnates i know about now. Which is being increasing to 98. Thats over 16 times as many of this 'rare' ship being added to the game.
How would all the titan owners like it if CCP decided to hand out 16,000-32,000 Titans to people for entering a tournament? Its the same thing in terms of devaluing their ship, on a lesser scale as it only screws over a few people this time. Which you are all happy about because you all hate the rich trillionaires for some unknown reason.
I can tell you for a fact i will no longer be investing into any rare ships anymore as i will never know if CCP will just add more into the game whenever they feel like it. I can predict market trends, i cant predict random storyline events giving out prizes.
Yes, it does make my silver magnate worth less. I will no longer be able to undock knowing that i cant replace the ship, if it dies ill just shrug and think well i can just replace that for 20b. So its value is 20b. |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 13:03:15 -
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Tappits wrote:You could say the same thing as the people that got RevenantGÇÖs early on.. There now worth less than 1/3 what some of the early people paid for them. Does that devalue their time with them? Or is that the cost of having something GÇ£limitedGÇ¥ and been able to say GÇ£I was the first to get a killmail with oneGÇ¥ GÇ£I was the first to use them in a fleetGÇ¥ GÇ£I was the first to lose oneGÇ¥ GÇ£I have the oldest oneGÇ¥
If my titan suddenly cost half as much and thereGÇÖs 10x more of them than when I got it (there is more than 10x more of them now than when I got it) I would not be like o no I just lost X amount I would be like well I have had the use of X for Y years and I have had fun with it nbd.
The difference being everyone knew clearly that there was going to be more Revenants added to the game as the bpc will always continue dropping. No one knew that the silver magnate was going to be added to the game again, especially as CCP has already stated they will not add them to the game, but are now doing so. These things add value to the ships. The people bought the Revenants at higher prices to be the first, i didnt buy the silver magnate at its price to be the first, i bought it for its rarity. Its rarity secured by the fact they said they would not release more.
Tappits wrote:That is fine... as there will be many more to take your place now the price will come down (prob not that much) to be an achievable goal for people just like it was for you. .
You dont think its price will come down much? I had an offer for 880b on my magnate, now i cant even get an offer of 100b. Its value will be around 20b if you look at the price of the ishukone scorps before they became skins.
Tappits wrote:Good for you, And maybe people will maybe use the new silver magnate's as they will not be stuck with 2003 stats anymore. you can thank CCP for making your useless ship useful again.
So i only need to lose 860b of value for CCP to buff a ship. That sounds like a great deal.
Arec Bardwin wrote:Traders risk losing huge amounts of isk all the time if CCP change the game in any way, why should they take special care for your investment?
Traders can predict and see market trends from dev blogs, test server etc. How was i meant to predict this? Something that they said they would not add to the game again. Something that is meant to be a part of the history of Eve.
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TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:03:34 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:TinkerHell wrote: There are 6 silver magnates i know about now. Which is being increasing to 98. Thats over 16 times as many of this 'rare' ship being added to the game. 's actually 20 more silvers 4 more golds
Are you sure?
"All pilots on teams selected as champions for their house other than the winning team will be given a Silver Magnate (this includes the team that loses in the finals)."
All Pilots. I read that as 6 Houses, 4 Teams each of 4 = 96 people - 4 Gold Magnates = 92. |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:43:30 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:it's not even a good prize
last time it was 3 silver 1 gold 4 impocs for winning team, 4 silvers + imparma per losing team
but hey might as well make the prizes crappy when you're already violating your guarantees, being lazy and unoriginal
( somehow I doubt this is what Seagull had in mind )
See i wouldnt even be bothered if they just renamed the original with the date reward at the end. Then these new ones have the current date. Making them different ships. Also takes next to no effort. |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:08:58 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:It was worth the price you paid for it or you wouldn't have bought it.
Collectors tend to pay more for art when the artist is dead as there are no more pieces made. We were told there would be no more of these ships. So their value went up accordingly. If i was an art collector, Id be pretty pissed if i had a Van Gough and he came back from the dead to paint another 20 paintings. |
TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:16:20 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:TinkerHell wrote:Mr Mieyli wrote:It was worth the price you paid for it or you wouldn't have bought it. Collectors tend to pay more for art when the artist is dead as there are no more pieces made. We were told there would be no more of these ships. So their value went up accordingly. If i was an art collector, Id be pretty pissed if i had a Van Gough and he came back from the dead to paint another 20 paintings. Youd be pissed if Van Gogh came back from the dead? Id be many things at such an occurance, but "pissed" would probably not be among them. Furthermore, as a collector of his fine art, surely you would be overjoyed that he has ressurected and can now produce more of the artbwhich you so enjoy? Oh wait. You mean as an INVESTMENT. Aaah, ok.
Hate to break it to you, but to some collectors the value of an item means more than the item itself and not for investment purposes. Things like rarity, limited edition matter.
He can come back from the dead, just not paint. |
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