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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:40:52 -
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Predictable outcome to a predictable thread. |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics
CODE.
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:52:56 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Well you're the first codie I've ever talked with that actually gave that answer. Hence why I've started doubting the sanity of some of em. I'm still not discounting that there might be some that are actually that unhinged tho.
If you did, you probably chose the wrong angle for asking. To be honest, I, too, was in doubt whether to give a serious answer, since questioning your counterpart's sanity isn't usually considered a good start for a fruitful exchange of opinions.
Personally, I treat the forums like a place where the player can be more human and less avatar. Most players don't, hence all the politicking and mudslinging.
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard. For once a carebear is right Salah, listen to the man, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!!!
The arthritis is real. 
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:57:14 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Because you are laughed at and considered a joke by the entirety of the EVE community, across all borders and sectors of space and activity, outside of CODE.
This is simply not true. Plenty of us in the PVE community respect the CODE guys. We (unlike some of our weaker mined PVE colleagues) can see through their hurf blurf to understand that their message is finely tuned to irritate the Latte swilling "over-sensitives" that are their bread and butter. It does nothing to me and folsk like me, we know they are role playing and laying out bait for their targets. They are like 17th century pirates in real life were: Their legend is far worse than their reality.
And It's working, as people are actually asking "are they serious" lol.
The difference between CODE and the weird thin-skinned people they prey on is that CODE types (and their spiritual ancestors, teh Goons) are actually having fun, and even those of us who would not personally enjoy their type of game play (I don't find someone elses 'tears' to be an enjoyable goal) can appreciate what they do.
They are basically the White Blood Cells of EVE, scrubbing the game of the kinds of entitled malignancies that plague other games I've played. So even though I spend all my time either fighting them (like I have goons almost my whole EVE life) or avoiding them (I ain't seen one CODEie in Wicked Creek...), I can still appreciate what they do, and how well they get under the skins of people who should have known they were personally way too thin skinned to play EVE Online in the 1st damn place. |
Aldeskwatso
Highsec Heroes
Indecent Exposure Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:59:42 -
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Unless you really lucky all the time mining is the more profitable choice of the two.
The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:04:22 -
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Assuming you're not trolling, I'd say mission running over either. Ganking you need two accounts, because by the time your criminal timer expires and you get back to your gank site, someone else likely will have taken your loot. High sec mining? No, just...no. |
Thomas Lot
Mechanical Engineers
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:11:40 -
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CODE serves a legitimate purpose in high sec. In the long term, tedium and boredom is responsible for more player attrition than rage quitting over a ship/cargo loss. Without a few players making life interesting for the carebears the eventual tedium would make them lose interest in the game.
It also increases both the immersion and the knowledge base of the players. Because of Salah, Bing, Pilot Solette, and a few others in CODE, I learned what ships are particularly vulnerable and how to fit a ship more properly to make myself less of a target for a gank.
Nah, CODE is OK in my play. Instead of screaming at them, join a high sec war corp, war dec them, and look for chances to bring out some solid pvp. I can promise that if necessary, they can park the catalyst and hop in a few good ships and give anyone a good fight. |
Renegade Heart
The Three Kings INC.
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:18:43 -
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In my experience, mining paid too little and was too boring for me to bother with. As for ganking, it can be quite profitable, although much of it is down to chance. You could make a few hundred million profit per gank, or you could get really lucky and make billions in one gank.
I think it is probably not the fastest way to make isk in general, but it can be quite relaxing, ship scanning haulers on a second screen while you do something else on your main screen, and then it's exciting when a target shows up, and you take them out and steal their cargo.
Also, mining is a steady income over time, so you know how slowly your isk is going up. But when you are looking to gank haulers, you have the element of surprise when you ship scan people. There is always the chance the next hauler might be the one with a big stack of plex inside. I think this adds to the fun of ganking.
La Rynx wrote:only code respects code.
I know this is wrong, since I am not in CODE. nor do I have any desire to join CODE. yet I respect them greatly! |
Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:27:17 -
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Thomas Lot wrote:CODE serves a legitimate purpose in high sec. In the long term, tedium and boredom is responsible for more player attrition than rage quitting over a ship/cargo loss. Without a few players making life interesting for the carebears the eventual tedium would make them lose interest in the game.
Essentially this: highsec players suffer ennui. The repetition kills their enthusiasm.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:46:21 -
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Jenn:
Dont drink the koolaid.
I understand what you are saying.
CODE has its content function.
But then again so too do their HS prey.
Sometimes the chemo is worse than the cancer.
Yes, entitled HS idiots deserve a reminder of what game it is they are playing.
But do not forget that CODE is also an entitled (and pompous) HS entity, also benefiting from that security, and whos actions ultimately are PvE (as against CONCORD) rather than PvP.
Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke.
PvE v PvP
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:55:34 -
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ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole?
Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity. |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:03:16 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke. Or perhaps they are just making a political statement?
Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it.
Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.
But to the OP? Ganking. Neither is going to make you rich but at least one is actually playing the game, while the other is watching some counter creep ever upwards while you stare blankly at your screen. |
Crimson Nirnroots
Compliant Munitions
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:03:29 -
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Well said, Jenn.
I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.
I like to think they're my best customers.
Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:04:58 -
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Crimson Nirnroots wrote:Well said, Jenn.
I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.
I like to think they're my best customers.
Oh, that's going into my bio lol.
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:36:20 -
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Maekchu wrote:ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole?
Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity.
I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,. |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:37:09 -
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And i also thought that CODEdot is a joke since it's well made PR project of Goonie propaganda machine.
As well as i do belive mr J 3.15 is very successfull miner who run multiple mining bot alts which caused him to write his opus otherwise his brains would boil of mining boredome. |
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:01:01 -
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La Rynx wrote:
only code respects code.
lol
We don't want your respect. All we want is your attention. And we have that.
Not attention in the "LOOK AT ME!" way. Attention in that we have a message and we want each and every person in Eve to hear it and, if possible for them, to understand it.
Highsec is too safe. There is too much reward for too little risk for the miners, missioners, haulers, etc that mindlessly sit or autopilot their way to riches. Every afking bot aspirant that thinks he can safely pay little to no attention to his ship while undocked in highsec thinks this because a not iinsignificant number of other players both believe it too AND insist that CCP make it so. Take for example the ongoing slaughter in Uedama. Yesterday we killed a freighter pilot who was a 2004 character whose freighter loss yesterday was his only zkillboard reported highsec loss. Think about that. 11 years in the game, all in an NPC corp btw, and he's autopiloting a freighter through Uedama. With a 1.7 billion ISK pod to boot.
I doubt he respects us now. I bet he did get our message.
I think the fact that you can hardly find anyone not mining in a Procurer or a Skiff anymore means the miners are getting the message too.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:08:43 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Maekchu wrote:ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole?
Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity. I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,.
If that is your goal, then none of those are good activities. You should look for other activites, that can put you at a comfortable ISK level, after which you then can do what you enjoy.
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2015.09.25 17:02:13 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke. Or perhaps they are just making a political statement? Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it. Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win. Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.
Agreed.
But as I said, its essentially a hypocrisy, and at best, self-ironic satire, as they exploit the same HS security, as they "politically" accuse their prey of doing.
Having said that, minerbumping.com is absolute comedy gold with an EVE context.
The updates there alone justify their existance ingame.
I readily salute James315 and those who produce the content there, o7.
It was, and is, a fantastic idea and angle on meta.
The forum, however, is deep into the koolaid.
Reminds me of how Bronies thought it was funny at first, only to soon after realize to their abject horror that there are many creeps who actually swallow that ****.
Furthermore, as in my previous post about the chemo sometimes killing you before the cancer, much of CODE agents are asshats who really should have left HS ages ago. Its one thing to have a HS gank alt aside from your main activities for a few laughs and miner tears, or even the occassional hauler pinata. Its quite another to actually participate fulltime in the same HS hypocrisy, and even worse if you actually believe in the creed.
PvE v PvP
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