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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
518
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Posted - 2015.09.25 05:56:04 -
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I'm thinking to completly change my profile pretty soon and was wonder what is more profitable at the moment?
So in other words should i go mining or ganking? |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1776
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Posted - 2015.09.25 05:59:57 -
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I can only assume ganking as well mining... no
and ganking implies ships of actual value, not awful fit t1/2 mining barges
@ChainsawPlankto
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn Resonance.
166
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:05:52 -
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If fun is the currency you trade in... ganking is the clear winner!
If you're in it for the ISK I would say neither. |

Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:11:48 -
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From what I have read on these forums, ganking is elite level pvp that takes lots of time, planning, skill, alts, friends, luck and so much more
do you have what it takes?
saying that, neither rocks or barges shoot back really so.... |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1776
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:21:21 -
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ganking is hardly elite. that said some planning is of course helpful, knowing where to set up and what ships you can take out. and it is nice to have a hauler alt to scoop the loot and run. And of course luck is nice to have, first to find a target and second that the good loot drops.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
655
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:22:02 -
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It is my observation that the ganking we've witnessed these last couple years are the proactive way for some subset of the game to tell another to either:
Quit Leave highsec Or learn to fight back.
Any one of those results is arguably better for the game by trimming some of the fat and culling the weak before they get too entrenched and start pretending like they matter in the grand scheme of things.
Here's a tip - you either learn where you come from and stop the bleeding or you continue to die a slow death with every gank. This post is not directed at the OP it's more of my summary feelings on the matter from years worth of watching this train wreck in slow motion. When people advocate to nerf highsec they're not trying to hurt you they are trying to save you from highsec itself.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
157
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:23:33 -
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Ganking miners is for people who would like to PVP but realise that competing against someone would could actually shoot back would just not work out too well. Any other explanation is just self delusion. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1777
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:33:41 -
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I respect ganking, without it eve would be (at least for many) a single player collect purples, level up your raven, and quit game, because what else are you going to do? Also it would be really weird if HS was safe and low/null was as is. I can't even imagine how much isk would flow into the economy. the positive feed back loop of farm, so you can farm more, and then farm more bleh! Not to mention the whole introduce power creep so more farming!
I've played other games where all I want to do is shoot someone but they are "friendly" so I can't do a thing, and that isn't even counting pve servers.
at the very least ganking can remind people they aren't playing a single player game. Hopefully they learn to fight back, but I do imagine for many it leads to quitting. hard to adjust your whole attitude to a game.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
518
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Posted - 2015.09.25 07:03:04 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:I respect ganking, without it eve would be (at least for many) a single player collect purples, level up your raven, and quit game, because what else are you going to do? Also it would be really weird if HS was safe and low/null was as is. I can't even imagine how much isk would flow into the economy. the positive feed back loop of farm, so you can farm more, and then farm more bleh! Not to mention the whole introduce power creep so more farming!
I've played other games where all I want to do is shoot someone but they are "friendly" so I can't do a thing, and that isn't even counting pve servers.
at the very least ganking can remind people they aren't playing a single player game. Hopefully they learn to fight back, but I do imagine for many it leads to quitting. hard to adjust your whole attitude to a game.
So basicslly nothing got changed and it's same old story of gold diggers and those who decided to dig those diggers. |

Isajah
Industrial Command Lux Aetherna
4
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Posted - 2015.09.25 07:10:56 -
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ganking filters afk miners ergo less afk miners ->good thing . I still hate gankers^^ they are like wasps or spiders. people dont like them but they are useful (dear spider friends, I like spiders too, i was just generally speaking...)
Me wants Comet mining
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Thorn en Distel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2015.09.25 07:33:07 -
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I am pretty much a carebear, in that I refuse to gank what cannot fight back, barring a few exceptions (e.g. bots). When they can fight back, though, I gank wherever possible and profit doesn't even factor. I just want the fun of the chase and the kill. And I admit, occasionally the tears. It's especially pleasing (and amusing) to let certain types know they were just ganked by one of those 'non-existent' female gamers. 
And for those who hate AFK players / bots: I recommend AION (if it still works like it used to). Catch a rift to enemy territory and gank them all day long, with the enemy faction cheering you on. |

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
287
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Posted - 2015.09.25 07:36:00 -
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Miner ganking is but the most basic form of highsec PvP. Judging all of it by its most simple element is like judging all lowsec PvP by the explosion of a novice FW bear with a Hawk. Miner ganking is an ideological thing, you won't net much from it. THis activity is inherently not profitable, even though CODE. alliance does provide an SRP.
We can roughly compare mining (or any kind of PvE grind) and ganking to public service and self-employed business, respectively. Being a public servant gives you a stable job and income, all the social security you might need, but you will never see your face on the cover of a Forbes magazine (being an honest public servant, that is). An entrepreneur, on the contrary, has to think a bit out of the box, and his work is more chancy. You should be prepared to have no income at all for days or even weeks, even if you are working on a project with great potential. Yet, with persistence and a bit of luck, you will stumble upon something (or, likely, someone) who will give you billions and lots of excitement along with them.
If you wish to learn more, feel free to convo me or fire an evemail in the game.
And don't let the shiptoasters have control over your best judgement. Ther're just jelly that someone else in this game is having fun. |

Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
158
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Posted - 2015.09.25 08:04:31 -
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Nice PR, I do hope you don't actually believe it yourself. |

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
288
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Posted - 2015.09.25 08:29:03 -
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It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact. |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
656
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Posted - 2015.09.25 08:40:35 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact.
Don't pat yourself on the back too hard.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
405
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Posted - 2015.09.25 09:12:57 -
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I think one of the most disturbing things I've run across on the internet so far in my life is the fact that there might be codies who actually believe what they say. Not that there is, just that there might be. Because the level of mental degradation required for that should scare anyone.
That said, no you will probably not make all that much isk mining or ganking miners. You might occasionally get lucky while ganking mission runners for a half decent drop but you generally need more than a few people so after splitting the loot and taking into account time and security drop... That said in my oh, 3 years? of running missions on/of I've never seen someone get ganked, nor heard of nor experienced it myself. I baited some codies into trying to gank my alt once, they failed pretty hard.
Ganking greedy/lazy haulers might be a slightly better bet, I know people make a decent living off that but again, all luck in being in the right place, right time and again, a LOT of waiting around doing nothing. I've moved around my share of loot around eve but again, never lost a load to a gank yet. Then again I take precautions, use the right ships for the right tasks, have undocks, those kinds of things.
If you want isk look at mission running, incursions, Wormholes, Null ratting, maybe manufacturing, exploration, FW. Some (not all) of those even include regular chances for actual pvp if you have the balls for it. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
14021
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Posted - 2015.09.25 09:24:07 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:I'm thinking to completly change my profile pretty soon and was wonder what is more profitable at the moment?
So in other words should i go mining or ganking? You serious or is this a joke? Better off taking a bomber to wh imo.
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Salvos Rhoska
1502
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:40:31 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:So in other words should i go mining or ganking?
How about you do both?
Mine with one toon, and use the other to harass the other miners in your belt.
PvE v PvP
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
520
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:43:30 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:So in other words should i go mining or ganking? How about you do both? Mine with one toon, and use the other to harass the other miners in your belt.
A wolf in sheep skin? Ha, i like it! |

Divine Entervention
Legion's Knights Of The Round Intrepid Crossing
630
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:44:22 -
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stupid bait thread trying to collect miner tears.
Lock thread 90 suspend OP. |

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
522
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:51:23 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:stupid bait thread trying to collect miner tears.
Lock thread 90 suspend OP.
You got my tears mate, but those are for the lols. Nothing to bait here, two common activities which i'd like hear yay or nay.
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
407
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:55:40 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:So in other words should i go mining or ganking? How about you do both? Mine with one toon, and use the other to harass the other miners in your belt. You sir, are a man of efficiency! Why waste one character when you can waste two at the same time! Genius  |

Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2015.09.25 10:58:44 -
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Mining is boring without a friend. Or relaxing, if you're just in the mood to not do very much that day-just pay attention to what's flying through and nearby. Wouldn't suggest it as a solo career (alts don't count as friends).
Ganking... can't really comment. Haven't gotten to say "Gotcha" to anyone in this game yet, except in the occasional market PvP.
A signature :o
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
292
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:21:29 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I think one of the most disturbing things I've run across on the internet so far in my life is the fact that there might be codies who actually believe what they say. Not that there is, just that there might be. Because the level of mental degradation required for that should scare anyone.
You and all the others in this thread have made me wonder why this question is even asked. Seriously, "do they actually believe what they say"? And I think I have the answer.
This is a very bad question, because it's a trap for me: whatever answer I'll give, you'll only hear whatever you want to hear. If I'm not serious about what I'm saying about the Code, I'm a phonie. If I am, I'm a loonie. It might arguably be a trap for you, too, since you will stay deaf to the person you are conversing with, so it hardly will win you any friends or make you any wiser. Either way, the question is bad.
So the right answer will be: "it's a video game, ffs, how can all this EVER be serious?"
Don't forget that everything that happens here is not real and act accordingly. |

Salvos Rhoska
1503
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:33:49 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:This is a very bad question, because it's a trap for me: whatever answer I'll give, you'll only hear whatever you want to hear. If I'm not serious about what I'm saying about the Code, I'm a phonie. If I am, I'm a loonie. It might arguably be a trap for you, too, since you will stay deaf to the person you are conversing with, so it hardly will win you any friends or make you any wiser. Either way, the question is bad.
The question is not" bad". It merely highlights that you lose either way.
Why? Because you are laughed at and considered a joke by the entirety of the EVE community, across all borders and sectors of space and activity, outside of CODE.
Nonetheless, by all means, play as you want. Your choice.
PvE v PvP
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
408
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:43:51 -
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Well said!
only code respects code. thats another win for code too! lol
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
408
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:44:01 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:I think one of the most disturbing things I've run across on the internet so far in my life is the fact that there might be codies who actually believe what they say. Not that there is, just that there might be. Because the level of mental degradation required for that should scare anyone. You and all the others in this thread have made me wonder why this question is even asked. Seriously, "do they actually believe what they say"? And I think I have the answer. This is a very bad question, because it's a trap for me: whatever answer I'll give, you'll only hear whatever you want to hear. If I'm not serious about what I'm saying about the Code, I'm a phonie. If I am, I'm a loonie. It might arguably be a trap for you, too, since you will stay deaf to the person you are conversing with, so it hardly will win you any friends or make you any wiser. Either way, the question is bad. So the right answer will be: " it's a video game, ffs, how can all this EVER be serious?" Don't forget that everything that happens here is not real and act accordingly. Well you're the first codie I've ever talked with that actually gave that answer. Hence why I've started doubting the sanity of some of em. I'm still not discounting that there might be some that are actually that unhinged tho. |

ISD Atomic Dove
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
61
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:44:42 -
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Locked for some spring cleaning, we'll be right back.
ISD Atomic Dove
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
418
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:54:45 -
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I mine, but have know to gank occasionally. There is absolutely no reason why you cannot try out anything in this game. be it mining, ganking, exploring, building etc etc etc. just do and see if it is compatible with your fun levels. |

Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
341
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Posted - 2015.09.25 11:58:38 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard.
For once a carebear is right Salah, listen to the man, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!!! |

Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
408
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:40:52 -
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Predictable outcome to a predictable thread. |

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
294
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:52:56 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Well you're the first codie I've ever talked with that actually gave that answer. Hence why I've started doubting the sanity of some of em. I'm still not discounting that there might be some that are actually that unhinged tho.
If you did, you probably chose the wrong angle for asking. To be honest, I, too, was in doubt whether to give a serious answer, since questioning your counterpart's sanity isn't usually considered a good start for a fruitful exchange of opinions.
Personally, I treat the forums like a place where the player can be more human and less avatar. Most players don't, hence all the politicking and mudslinging.
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard. For once a carebear is right Salah, listen to the man, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!!!
The arthritis is real. 
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12487
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:57:14 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Because you are laughed at and considered a joke by the entirety of the EVE community, across all borders and sectors of space and activity, outside of CODE.
This is simply not true. Plenty of us in the PVE community respect the CODE guys. We (unlike some of our weaker mined PVE colleagues) can see through their hurf blurf to understand that their message is finely tuned to irritate the Latte swilling "over-sensitives" that are their bread and butter. It does nothing to me and folsk like me, we know they are role playing and laying out bait for their targets. They are like 17th century pirates in real life were: Their legend is far worse than their reality.
And It's working, as people are actually asking "are they serious" lol.
The difference between CODE and the weird thin-skinned people they prey on is that CODE types (and their spiritual ancestors, teh Goons) are actually having fun, and even those of us who would not personally enjoy their type of game play (I don't find someone elses 'tears' to be an enjoyable goal) can appreciate what they do.
They are basically the White Blood Cells of EVE, scrubbing the game of the kinds of entitled malignancies that plague other games I've played. So even though I spend all my time either fighting them (like I have goons almost my whole EVE life) or avoiding them (I ain't seen one CODEie in Wicked Creek...), I can still appreciate what they do, and how well they get under the skins of people who should have known they were personally way too thin skinned to play EVE Online in the 1st damn place. |

Aldeskwatso
Highsec Heroes Indecent Exposure Alliance
49
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:59:42 -
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Unless you really lucky all the time mining is the more profitable choice of the two.
The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
254
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:04:22 -
[35] - Quote
Assuming you're not trolling, I'd say mission running over either. Ganking you need two accounts, because by the time your criminal timer expires and you get back to your gank site, someone else likely will have taken your loot. High sec mining? No, just...no. |

Thomas Lot
Mechanical Engineers
5
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:11:40 -
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CODE serves a legitimate purpose in high sec. In the long term, tedium and boredom is responsible for more player attrition than rage quitting over a ship/cargo loss. Without a few players making life interesting for the carebears the eventual tedium would make them lose interest in the game.
It also increases both the immersion and the knowledge base of the players. Because of Salah, Bing, Pilot Solette, and a few others in CODE, I learned what ships are particularly vulnerable and how to fit a ship more properly to make myself less of a target for a gank.
Nah, CODE is OK in my play. Instead of screaming at them, join a high sec war corp, war dec them, and look for chances to bring out some solid pvp. I can promise that if necessary, they can park the catalyst and hop in a few good ships and give anyone a good fight. |

Renegade Heart
The Three Kings INC.
529
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:18:43 -
[37] - Quote
In my experience, mining paid too little and was too boring for me to bother with. As for ganking, it can be quite profitable, although much of it is down to chance. You could make a few hundred million profit per gank, or you could get really lucky and make billions in one gank.
I think it is probably not the fastest way to make isk in general, but it can be quite relaxing, ship scanning haulers on a second screen while you do something else on your main screen, and then it's exciting when a target shows up, and you take them out and steal their cargo.
Also, mining is a steady income over time, so you know how slowly your isk is going up. But when you are looking to gank haulers, you have the element of surprise when you ship scan people. There is always the chance the next hauler might be the one with a big stack of plex inside. I think this adds to the fun of ganking.
La Rynx wrote:only code respects code.
I know this is wrong, since I am not in CODE. nor do I have any desire to join CODE. yet I respect them greatly! |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
658
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:27:17 -
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Thomas Lot wrote:CODE serves a legitimate purpose in high sec. In the long term, tedium and boredom is responsible for more player attrition than rage quitting over a ship/cargo loss. Without a few players making life interesting for the carebears the eventual tedium would make them lose interest in the game.
Essentially this: highsec players suffer ennui. The repetition kills their enthusiasm.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Salvos Rhoska
1506
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:46:21 -
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Jenn:
Dont drink the koolaid.
I understand what you are saying. CODE has its content function. But then again so too do their HS prey.
Sometimes the chemo is worse than the cancer.
Yes, entitled HS idiots deserve a reminder of what game it is they are playing. But do not forget that CODE is also an entitled (and pompous) HS entity, also benefiting from that security, and whos actions ultimately are PvE (as against CONCORD) rather than PvP.
Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke.
PvE v PvP
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
107
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:55:34 -
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ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole? Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity. |

Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1661
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:03:16 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke. Or perhaps they are just making a political statement?
Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it.
Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.
But to the OP? Ganking. Neither is going to make you rich but at least one is actually playing the game, while the other is watching some counter creep ever upwards while you stare blankly at your screen. |

Crimson Nirnroots
Compliant Munitions
44
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:03:29 -
[42] - Quote
Well said, Jenn.
I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.
I like to think they're my best customers.
Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12491
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:04:58 -
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Crimson Nirnroots wrote:Well said, Jenn.
I enjoy Code. and their antics in the same way I can the Uruk-hai or Nazgul. I can like the antagonists without directly aligning myself with the Dark Lord.
I like to think they're my best customers.
Oh, that's going into my bio lol.
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
522
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:36:20 -
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Maekchu wrote:ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole? Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity.
I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,. |

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
522
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:37:09 -
[45] - Quote
And i also thought that CODEdot is a joke since it's well made PR project of Goonie propaganda machine.
As well as i do belive mr J 3.15 is very successfull miner who run multiple mining bot alts which caused him to write his opus otherwise his brains would boil of mining boredome. |

Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
376
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:01:01 -
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La Rynx wrote:
only code respects code.
lol
We don't want your respect. All we want is your attention. And we have that.
Not attention in the "LOOK AT ME!" way. Attention in that we have a message and we want each and every person in Eve to hear it and, if possible for them, to understand it.
Highsec is too safe. There is too much reward for too little risk for the miners, missioners, haulers, etc that mindlessly sit or autopilot their way to riches. Every afking bot aspirant that thinks he can safely pay little to no attention to his ship while undocked in highsec thinks this because a not iinsignificant number of other players both believe it too AND insist that CCP make it so. Take for example the ongoing slaughter in Uedama. Yesterday we killed a freighter pilot who was a 2004 character whose freighter loss yesterday was his only zkillboard reported highsec loss. Think about that. 11 years in the game, all in an NPC corp btw, and he's autopiloting a freighter through Uedama. With a 1.7 billion ISK pod to boot.
I doubt he respects us now. I bet he did get our message.
I think the fact that you can hardly find anyone not mining in a Procurer or a Skiff anymore means the miners are getting the message too.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
111
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:08:43 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Maekchu wrote:ISK and profitability is not that important. As long as you can buy the assets that you wish to buy, any excess ISK is just dead money, in terms of fun provided.
So instead of looking at what is more profitable, you should instead consider what is a more fun activity for you to do. Since enjoyment of an activity is subjective, that means that you will have to try both activities and figure out which one you enjoy more.
What is the point of grinding ISK, if you don't enjoy your EvE playing experience as a whole? Figure out what makes you enjoy the game and what provides you with a reason to login based on enjoyment and not necessity. I'd put income in the first place cause i need some funds to keep my fun going, otherwise i'm going back to rookie ships over and over again,. If that is your goal, then none of those are good activities. You should look for other activites, that can put you at a comfortable ISK level, after which you then can do what you enjoy.
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Black Pedro wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Its arguable which is worse, especially as both feel so goddam entitled to the same HS security which enables both of their activities.
Its a hypocrisy, and hence, a joke. Or perhaps they are just making a political statement? Sometimes the best way to get something fixed is to exploit the hell out of it. Remember, the New Order doesn't make the rules for Eve, we are just good at using them to win. Don't hate the player, hate the game. And remember it is just a game so try to have some fun.
Agreed.
But as I said, its essentially a hypocrisy, and at best, self-ironic satire, as they exploit the same HS security, as they "politically" accuse their prey of doing.
Having said that, minerbumping.com is absolute comedy gold with an EVE context. The updates there alone justify their existance ingame. I readily salute James315 and those who produce the content there, o7. It was, and is, a fantastic idea and angle on meta.
The forum, however, is deep into the koolaid. Reminds me of how Bronies thought it was funny at first, only to soon after realize to their abject horror that there are many creeps who actually swallow that ****.
Furthermore, as in my previous post about the chemo sometimes killing you before the cancer, much of CODE agents are asshats who really should have left HS ages ago. Its one thing to have a HS gank alt aside from your main activities for a few laughs and miner tears, or even the occassional hauler pinata. Its quite another to actually participate fulltime in the same HS hypocrisy, and even worse if you actually believe in the creed.
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