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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.26 08:58:00 -
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Are these systems free for all? (except pirates)
Do they require hunting passes?
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Siobhan Ni
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Posted - 2003.11.26 09:16:00 -
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It's free space for anyone to enter, other than pirates. Although a few pirates are regularly killing indies at the minute, so caution is advised when entering the JK-FIX region below Khanid. Use the 'cfs public' channel in game.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.26 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 26/11/2003 09:51:46
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Are these systems free for all? (except pirates)
Do they require hunting passes?
Its technically "free for all" and the reality isnt too far from that (Just dont ask about stations or Mobiles because they havent decided "how free for all" those will, or wont, be). CFS cant keep pirates from whacking Indies on a regular basis mind you, but not a lot more the CFS can do with current dynamics, and they chase them about regularly enough if nothing else.
"CFS Public" channel is good for checking for pirates, but check who is saying "yes its clear", half the time its the pirates or their alts themselves.
Dont trust Corp Descriptions to indicate alliance membership either "Friends of CFS" invariably means a pirate corp nowadays.
Lots of unaligned and "nominally" neutral corps and even alliances down that way also.
CFS will expect you to bow down and worship their supreme wonderfulness for creating such a tranquil haven (not), so best not bothering to raise any philosophical or otherwise awkward questions with half of their membership (they like to waive the flag but cant live up to the ideals, so they will just rant and flame you, accuse you of having an alt army, or funding the latest yellow-dog news service {that doesnt sing their praise on every page})... the other half are genuinely nice folks though but you wont meet them in CFS Public much... local channel is their (and your) haven from the haters.
Oh yeah - Gehi is a ****hole where an office will cost you 150million and pirates will pot-shot your indie from 80km away as you leave the station... until some locals run them around for a bit.
Mining is good on the fringes of the outer regions, everything comes back down the one "rabbit run" of systems (hence the pirates) and there's some good rat farming to be had also.
CFS will lose control of most of it the month stations come out.
Thats about it for the "CFS protectorate"....
(Expect one or more of the regular CFS Troll brigade to stomp over my post btw - they cant accept any opinion other than their own or those who worship from afar. The above is about as accurate as it gets though.)
Enjoy.
(There's fresh goat under the bridge for the trolls)
(Oh yeah - Their Pres is normally a nice fella who's possibly the oldest guy in the galaxy!)
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2003.11.26 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sphalerite on 26/11/2003 10:20:53
Our space is open to anyone not on our KOS list (all pirates and corp thieves) or with a 500k+bounty and/or -2.0 security rating.
There are rats around, so keep your eyes and local chat open, and report anyone suspicious in CFS Public.
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(Expect one or more of the regular CFS Troll brigade to stomp over my post btw - they cant accept any opinion other than their own or those who worship from afar. The above is about as accurate as it gets though.)
Enjoy.
(There's fresh goat under the bridge for the trolls)
you've confused trolls and flames here.
Troll:
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A post that is intentionally inflammatory and which is typically an attempt to start a flamewar
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Originally, "flame" meant to carry forth in a passionate manner in the spirit of honorable debate. Flames most often involved the use of flowery language and flaming well was an art form. More recently flame has come to refer to any kind of derogatory comment no matter how witless or crude.
Whatever your problems with some of our more vociferous members, trying to bait them by calling them trolls is a bit backwards.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.26 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 26/11/2003 10:27:35
Morkt
You are unbelievable. You ask ppl to respect your opinion but before anyone has even responded to your (BS post IMHO)you are calling them trolls.
So what is it you can insult the very Alliance you take advantage of(yes you spend most of your time in the FIX). Could this be because we keep it open even for the likes of you. But god forbid we should disagree with yourself oh no.
And as for insulting again the CFS membership they have actualy been pretty understanding of you and are the only thing thats been standing between you and alot of other angry CFS members.
To PropanElgan
You dont need a hunting pass you are pretty much free to do what you wish bar rat or attack other players.
There are a few rats infesting the FIX at the mo so be careful and keep an eye in local.
CFS are actively chasing but game dynamics make it hard to get someone who doesnt wanna be got.
Check CFS Public for info on Rats (you might meet Morkt in there looking for info from the same ppl he insults).
Regards
Tal
What goes around comes around...
What goes around comes around...
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.26 17:14:00 -
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I have had no problems going though Khanid space. It's not because I'm so kewl, it's because of the game mechanics.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.26 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 26/11/2003 17:34:25
Funny thing - when I was first hunting in the FIX there was no CFS... now that there is, its less "free" than it was before them.
All lies of course - nobody went down there at all until the CFS built the gate system. 
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:10:00 -
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You know morkt if you dislike the CFS so much move the hell out. It would be nice to have you out of our space. You whiny egomaniac.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 26/11/2003 18:12:22
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 26/11/2003 17:34:25
Funny thing - when I was first hunting in the FIX there was no CFS... now that there is, its less "free" than it was before them.
All lies of course - nobody went down there at all until the CFS built the gate system.
To simple an answer Morkt. The point being is that if we were'nt there sure as eggs is eggs another Alliance would be and they might not be open.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
What goes around comes around...
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.26 19:14:00 -
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To simple an answer Morkt. The point being is that if we were'nt there sure as eggs is eggs another Alliance would be and they might not be open.
Problem is Talon that those other alliance dont shelter behind a screen of "lawfulness" whilst they have members like Ends deliberately seeking war.
The duplicity within the CFS is growing ever stronger with Ends strolling around local system telling people how he "can have anybody or corp he likes put on the KOS list" and how "we say who can do what down here because we own this space" or "We're the ones who tell you what to do, not the other way around.".
Im just now looking up the CFS Bills and Charter which detail how and where CFS members are encouraged to start wars, to expell those who think differently or hold other opinions and where they get individuals or corps listed as "KOS" because Ends thinks he's actually the CFS Head Dictator.
CFS space is the only space we have problems operating in because its the only space where its members try to tell us how we should think.
One day that will sink in... you do not control our minds or opinions..and despite Ends' little egomania sessions, his dislike for individuals or corps isnt of itself reason for putting anybody on the KOS list.
Try it though and watch the CFS torn asunder.
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Ends - I know you're trying your best to start a war down there but leave us out of it ok? Believe me when I tell you that if you think the CFS will last long after it starts that sort of **** you are seriously delusional.
You want to kick our neutral and lawful corp out of "your" space then go find a legitimate reason or stfu.
Theres is some part of "open borders" and "free space for all" that some like you in the CFS just dont understand isnt there?
(And every single rabid CFS response to my original post simply goes furthr and further to proving my point - the CFS is turning into just another 'we ownz this space so f-o' alliance.)
Personally Ends i hope you get your war... just leave BBBB out of it ok?
We will carry on doing our lawful thing and thinking how we want to without any orders or controls from you, irrespective of how much control you claim to have within the CFS. (Which I think we all know is patently garbage anyway.)
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Fargas
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Posted - 2003.11.26 19:46:00 -
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Ends,
where do all your hatred and threats come from? All we see and hear from you are nothing but pure negative energy pouring out from your goopod.
Do you have some sort of problem with reasoning and polite conversations and opinions? I thought CFS was liberal and allowed free speach and did not limit anything, but I might very well be wrong.
As for PropanElgen, the systems are free for all. Including all the pirates roaming around the bottlenecks and thus makes life of an Indy very dangerous.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.26 22:26:00 -
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Morkt that has to be the biggest load of garbage I have heard so far.
"Problem is Talon that those other alliance dont shelter behind a screen of "lawfulness" whilst they have members like Ends deliberately seeking war."
Other Lawfull Alliances lol I thought you read the Forums everybody is somebodys bandit.CFS is the most freedom giving and open of any of the Alliances.
"CFS space is the only space we have problems operating in because its the only space where its members try to tell us how we should think."
Its the only space you operate in as its the ONLY space you can operate in, You are not a member of any other alliance which means its the only area you can mine in and the only place you can hunt NPC's without paying for a pass.
"Im just now looking up the CFS Bills and Charter which detail how and where CFS members are encouraged to start wars, to expell those who think differently or hold other opinions and where they get individuals or corps listed as "KOS" because Ends thinks he's actually the CFS Head Dictator."
You say 1 person is struting around saying things you dont like and you call the whole CFS into question.
To be honest Morkt all I see is someone attacking the CFS. There was no need for you to answer this thread as you did. We already know your opinion this is just rubbing in salt.
Fargas
Im surprised at your tone.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
What goes around comes around...
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.26 23:01:00 -
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Looking at your horrible description of the CFS Morkt I really wonder what your provocation is? I think your inital post is just pathetic. Someone was asking a question and instead you toss in a firebomb and flame the entire thread.
You need to get a grip on yourself with posts like that you've got about as much credibility as some other forum flamers. A completely unprovoked post that wasn't even a response to anything anyone else said but merely a rant. It reminds me of all the anti-TTI rants we saw for awhile after most of TTI quit the game entirely. I can't even reply to anything you said because you didn't say anything useful. Just a bunch of crap. I'm really surprised to be honest I've always had alot of tolerance for your free speech and have defended your right to speak ill of CFS on our forums. But this is just way beyond anything especially considering you really don't have any issues with CFS. Your just tossing flames for the sake of tossing them.
For people who want to come to CFS space liking us isn't a requirment. We're not a dictatorship and we're not a bunch of loose cannons looking to start wars. If you like CFS hey great. If you don't your still free to come here unless your a pirate. You don't have to bow down and kiss our ass and you don't have to worship us. We do the best we can with the game mechanics we have and we're making plans for the future if deployables actually come out in the game (big if).
Until then we're just having fun and doing our best to keep the pirates out. Thats what things are like in CFS. Take it or leave it.
Calladen Nimitz 
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.26 23:11:00 -
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Morkt,
If you have a problem with the behavior of a CFS member you can send me screenshots of the offensive behavior and I'll look into it and forward it to the CFS Senate it justified.
Your jumping all over CFS as a whole because of alledged behavior of one person (Ends). Since CFS is made up of over 70 companies is it really fair to paint the entire alliance with a brush like that?
There will always be INDIVIDUAL PERSONALITIES involved with any alliance. You can't control everyones behavior 100% of the time. All you can do is try and set a standard and do your best to make sure people adhere to it. When theres problems you hope people are mature enough to approach you about them with evidence so you can deal with them.
If someone in CFS has offended you I'm sorry. Your completely out of line though painting the over 800 members of the alliance with a big brush because one person may've ****ed you off. Its way out of line and I expect better of you. You should know better. Instead it appears your just sowing seeds of discontent with your comments about CFS being torn apart. We've already seen there are people in the game who get their jollies causing trouble for other people. I'd hate to think Morkt is one of those people.
If you want to start an entire thread about how evil CFS is feel free. Please refrain from jumping into innocent threads and just losing it like you did in your first post here. It does nothing for credibility.
The poor guy was just asking a question.
Calladen Nimitz 
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.11.26 23:20:00 -
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Morkt Drak, stop hijacking people's threads. If you don't have something constructive to say on the original topic, then leave well enough alone.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.27 01:58:00 -
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Calladen - feel free to point out the CFS Bill of XYZ that says Im not allowed to say what i think about the CFS? Otherwise please join the long line of people from the CFS who I am constantly telling to stop telling other people what to think, what to say and where and when to say it.
Its very simple - if you dont like it, counter it or ignore it, but get off this idea that you can in anyway shape or form dictate how people can think or what they can say and where they can say it. You can't.
The sort of assumptive rubbish from Talon saying what my corp can and cannot do, where it can and cannot go, without any actual clue, without any actual research or questioning, that is typical of the CFS "machine" spewing forth rubbish in a manner in which it itself gets all morally outraged about and highly agitated..
You people will happily trounce anybody who would dare mention the CFS in other than a pure white light but when your own people print totally baseless and unfounded, unresearched crap you glibly accept it as gospel and expect everybody else to.
Once again - CFS hypocrisy is the tune. Its garbage.
Its also why its totally futile to report anything by anybody like Ends because of how you all just spin it to your own agenda. Reality is you just don't care what these members are doing.
How about the CFS call off their thought police and stick to peddling their propoganda to someone more gullible and stop trying to tell me to shut up.
It didn't work for TTI and it sure as hell won't work now for the CFS. I don't trust you lot and I dont think you will keep this area free for all.
The Free space bill will crumble in reality just as much as the war mongering and attitudes by people like Ends has caused it to become farce in reality.
People simply aren not welcome into CFS owned space, one a protectorate now soveriegn property, if their opinions differ to the CFS "elite" and they have the nerve to say it and refuse to be shut up.
When it comes to the crunch many of your members will abandon their past with glee and greed, just as we witnessed existing members trying to sell out lawful pilots to pirates and assassins in their public channel - and then later in private.
You may be honest and believe in the CFS Calladen - the guy next to you isn't. Problem is that you're starting to act like him, not the other way around.
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.11.27 02:14:00 -
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No one is telling you what to think Morkt. Your being told TO think.
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Fargas
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Posted - 2003.11.27 02:14:00 -
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Talon,
you would not be surprised over my tone if you only had seen the chatlogs between us and Subb and his other accounts.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.27 02:23:00 -
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No one is telling you what to think Morkt. Your being told TO think.
Hehe - that was good old chap. 
I like the one that goes "Wise man puts guns on Apoc before starting war" also.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.27 03:28:00 -
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" feel free to point out the CFS Bill of XYZ that says Im not allowed to say what i think about the CFS?"
There is no such bill either in consideration or discussion. You can say whatever you like. If we're so rife with spies (as you claim) and one has told you there is such a bill perhaps you'd be willing to post the name of the thread its proposed in and the particular forum its supposed to be in. That way I can take a screenshot of that forum and send it to you to show there is no such bill?
If your wondering heres what I posted about your free speech rights in our forum when some posted they were sick of your constant rants about CFS as a whole and your accusations that the entire alliance is corrupt, into mind control and dishonest:
"CFS has free speech and we respect the right of Morkt to disagree with us. Until he commits an act of war here theres not much we can do. Look at all the trouble NVA gets for putting people that argue with Jade on their KOS list. Everytime they do it they get an extra thread about NVA and freedoms being a myth. "
Sure a few people may say one thing or another. The point is until Yodaron says it (Hes the President) or the CFS passes a bill saying its a new law, its just one person in an 800+ member alliance with an opinion. Don't try and paint an entire alliance because one or two people disagree with you. You must admit your post here that started all this was pretty one sided and mean spirited. It was a pure flaming hijacking in action.
"The sort of assumptive rubbish from Talon saying what my corp can and cannot do, where it can and cannot go, without any actual clue, without any actual research or questioning, that is typical of the CFS "machine" spewing forth rubbish in a manner in which it itself gets all morally outraged about and highly agitated.."
Where has CFS or Talon said you can or can't go anywhere? What research aren't they doing? Please provide details of these claims so they can be investigated.
"People simply aren not welcome into CFS owned space, one a protectorate now soveriegn property, if their opinions differ to the CFS "elite" and they have the nerve to say it and refuse to be shut up."
Actually everyones welcome here as long as they abide by the rules (no piracy) and aren't pirates already. Perhaps you'd be willing to provide some examples of this so called CFS Elite trying to control your thoughts? Has your access here been restricted by anyone? You seem to be upset some CFS members have lashed out at you yet clearly you've lashed out at CFS. It is a two way street. Don't expect people to just sit around at "take it" without giving a little back. When we have posts like yours above in a totally non-related thread its pretty clear your biased and paranoid about CFS's intentions. Your post reeks of anger and hostility and reminds me of a particular Eve Guardian article a short while back that most of the Eve population also agreed was biased and "angry". An Eve population that had nothing to do with CFS by the way.
"When it comes to the crunch many of your members will abandon their past with glee and greed, just as we witnessed existing members trying to sell out lawful pilots to pirates and assassins in their public channel - and then later in private."
Please give an example of existing members selling out lawful pilots to pirates? Oh and don't bother with that story about GTC since they werent even CFS members. Likewise don't bother with the story of someone looking for you because we have a whole thread about it in the forums how someone named Atrant Busie was trying to get your location from CFS people. If you know of a CFS person giving your location to someone please send me the proof of this and we can deal with it.
Morkt as a friend I think your suffering from overwork and space dementia. Perhaps a week at the New Caldari Resort and Spa. When you get back you might discover all of CFS isn't an evil empire and we're not out to get you.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Calladen Nimitz
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/11/2003 09:44:24
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/11/2003 09:30:35
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/11/2003 09:30:20
Morkt
"The sort of assumptive rubbish from Talon saying what my corp can and cannot do, where it can and cannot go, without any actual clue, without any actual research or questioning, that is typical of the CFS "machine" spewing forth rubbish in a manner in which it itself gets all morally outraged about and highly agitated.."
Again your talking trash. I have on my word of honour never told you or your corp what to think or do or where it can or cannot go. If you have proof print it if not shut it. (this doesn't include posts where I tell you your talking garbage)
Again you hijacked a thread you did not need to poison with you hate filled rhetoric.
As for our space not being free space, As far as I'm aware you are the only one that has problems (apart from rats and I would say that you are in good company but that would insult the rats). There are loads of non CFS that pass through our space that have good words for the CFS.
P.S I think you need a break Morkt all this worrying over nothing your going to give yourself a heart attack. Go on holiday, I hear the beaches of Caldari prime are beautiful this time of year. Sit back relax think happy thoughts
Tal
What goes around comes around ...
What goes around comes around...
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Atredies
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Posted - 2003.11.27 15:04:00 -
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Morkt must be so stressed out I'm surprised he can even command a battleship. I sure wish he'd get some help for his problem and relax a little. We really care about you Morkt and we hope you get better soon. Your under alot of stress but remember it helps to talk about your problems. Perhaps I can recommend Dr. Freud on Tash-Murkon Prime? I know he helped me through a rough time after I lost my Apocolypse and I'm sure he can help you as well. CFS wants to see you get better. Talon is right. Think happy thoughts!
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.27 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 27/11/2003 16:02:37
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If you know of a CFS person giving your location to someone please send me the proof of this and we can deal with it.
like this ya mean?
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Channelname: Conqueror conversation
Listener: Atrant Busie
Session started: 2003.11.21 18:25:21
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[ 2003.11.21 18:27:25 ] Conqueror > hello
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:26 ] Atrant Busie > hey there
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:31 ] Atrant Busie > thanks for talking
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:38 ] Atrant Busie > we were told you could help us
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:40 ] Conqueror > whats up?
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:53 ] Conqueror > possible. . .depends on what you need (smile)
[ 2003.11.21 18:27:58 ] Atrant Busie > we've ben.. erm hired to do a little job on somone
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:11 ] Atrant Busie > and were told you could give us a location for him
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:14 ] Conqueror > oh. . ok. . .this is a new one on em. . .
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:18 ] Conqueror > oh. . .
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:20 ] Conqueror > hahah
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:27 ] Conqueror > I do not have the current location. . .
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:34 ] Conqueror > yesterday. . . I did. .
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:56 ] Atrant Busie > well we've got nothing except "somewhere in cfs" which is kind of useless
[ 2003.11.21 18:28:58 ] Conqueror > have not seen anyone in local today in jk-fix
[ 2003.11.21 18:29:22 ] Atrant Busie > we were told you knew where hie base was down past jk-fix
[ 2003.11.21 18:29:47 ] Atrant Busie > Morkt Drak that is - just to make sure we have the same guy
[ 2003.11.21 18:29:56 ] Conqueror > I have been deep in the fix the last two days. . . .saw "someone" mining in the 7g-QIG area. . .
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:07 ] Atrant Busie > sec
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:28 ] Atrant Busie > jesus christ lol
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:35 ] Conqueror > hahah
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:39 ] Atrant Busie > thats a long way ;-(
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:50 ] Conqueror > that is where ah. . some folks were at with me yesterday
[ 2003.11.21 18:30:55 ] Atrant Busie > ok - thanks for the info - appreciate it
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:07 ] Atrant Busie > keep an eye on the news i guess - ;-0
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:13 ] Conqueror > but they moved on yesterday and I have seen no one at all in local. . .
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:27 ] Atrant Busie > ok - better than we had a few minutes ago anyway
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:29 ] Conqueror > but if I see anyone. . . hahahah
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:39 ] Conqueror > best I can do. . . (Smile)
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:46 ] Atrant Busie > theres money in getting a good recent location to us btw
[ 2003.11.21 18:31:53 ] Atrant Busie > good money
[ 2003.11.21 18:32:05 ] Conqueror > will keep that in mind. . .one sec as I make a note. .
[ 2003.11.21 18:32:06 ] Atrant Busie > lot of people want to se him get it
[ 2003.11.21 18:32:22 ] Atrant Busie > checking with boss
[ 2003.11.21 18:32:36 ] Conqueror > hehehe. . . .I thought about putting a 5mil bounty on his head just for fun
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:02 ] Atrant Busie > yeah - ok, says 5 million isk if we get to pod drak in the same system, or thats where we first find him
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:25 ] Atrant Busie > so - if ya get anything more recent pls let us know
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:30 ] Conqueror > wow!. . . .you folks are seious!
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:36 ] Conqueror > will do!
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:47 ] Atrant Busie > told ya - lot of serious backers behind this
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:50 ] Conqueror > good hunting!
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:53 ] Atrant Busie > thanks
[ 2003.11.21 18:33:56 ] Atrant Busie > cya
[ 2003.11.21 18:34:03 ] Conqueror > cya
If i remeber correctly that came about 2 days after the same person had been ordered by your president not to give away my location to various assassins and pirates which he was doing on the public channel and encouraging those to come pod me.
As always though i dont expect CFS will do anything.
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Likewise don't bother with the story of someone looking for you because we have a whole thread about it in the forums how someone named Atrant Busie was trying to get your location from CFS people.
Oh look - surprise surprise!
It is yet again typical of the CFS to fail to take any action because they suitably exclude anything they deem to.
The public selling off of locations followed by the above private selling off of locations to assassins from CFS members does not count.
Why?
Nobody knows - apparently if the CFS have a thread about it then it isnt really a threat or didnt really happen... hmm... yeah.. ok.
"So I sell out a guy and if I start a thread about it it doesnt count?"
"Yes that right - its similar to podding indies, not paying anything like adequate recognition, and then getting away with it because you are reading their seantorial forums and come originally from a CFS corpor
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:10:00 -
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Again your talking trash. I have on my word of honour never told you or your corp what to think or do or where it can or cannot go. If you have proof print it if not shut it.
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Its the only space you operate in as its the ONLY space you can operate in, You are not a member of any other alliance which means its the only area you can mine in and the only place you can hunt NPC's without paying for a pass.
Last I was aware Talon the above tells us that a) We are not a member of any alliance
b) CFS space is the only place we can hunt
I thought I made it perfectly clear that you dont have a clue where we can and cannot go and as such "assumptive rubbish".
Anytime you want to retract your continued tirade of rubbish feel free to do so. It helps if you find out something about a Corps alliances and where it can and cannot go before tryting to tell them about it.
Judging by the difficulty you are having in remembering what you only just posted I don't think its me who needs the holiday.
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:46:00 -
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LOL
Everyone just ignore Morkt he's got a bad um ship day/week/month/year/life.
Just ignore and let the wind blow.
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/11/2003 17:18:19
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Again your talking trash. I have on my word of honour never told you or your corp what to think or do or where it can or cannot go. If you have proof print it if not shut it.
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Its the only space you operate in as its the ONLY space you can operate in, You are not a member of any other alliance which means its the only area you can mine in and the only place you can hunt NPC's without paying for a pass.
Last I was aware Talon the above tells us that a) We are not a member of any alliance
b) CFS space is the only place we can hunt
I thought I made it perfectly clear that you dont have a clue where we can and cannot go and as such "assumptive rubbish".
Anytime you want to retract your continued tirade of rubbish feel free to do so. It helps if you find out something about a Corps alliances and where it can and cannot go before tryting to tell them about it.
Judging by the difficulty you are having in remembering what you only just posted I don't think its me who needs the holiday.
Notice you dont show any alliances in your corp description. Not ashamed are you ? or maybe ca ?
I don't assume anything you presume to much.
Morkt your arguments so weak its not even worthy of you. Take the holiday you really do need it.
Tal
What goes aroud comes around ...
What goes around comes around...
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heavyg
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:02:00 -
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Morkt, You and I had a civil conversation the other night, where I asked you why the hatred for the CFS. I am not one to flame or insight hatred, or someone who feels the need to badmouth another. If you wish I will post that convo here, it has in the admission on your part that you have a hatred of the CFS this is obvious from your posts.
However as I have said before if you are not a CFS member and have to vote, you are entitled to an opinion; however that will not change a thing.
I still do not understand the venomous way in which you verbally berate the CFS at any opportunity. How have we wounded you so deeply? Have you been attacked by us (evidence pls)? Have we restricted you trade routes or charged a toll? Or have CFS members protected the lanes in and out of the fix, asking nothing from you? If we stopped the patrols, how long do you think you would be able to run back and for to gehi for before Cyrus, P4nts, Dirus, or a host of other players would gladly relieve you and many others of your expanders and other mods, and choke the life out of mining in the fix regions?
I am not asking for any thanks from you or anyone else, but please do not take with one hand and bad mouth on the other. I do not agree with all the polices of other alliances but then again their internal politics is none of my business.
Like it or lump it the CFS is not going to step aside and say ๔here you go morkt, you were correct all along, you take the helm.๖
If you wish to discuss this post pls contact me in game.
As always civilly yours,
HeavyG
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:01:00 -
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Notice you dont show any alliances in your corp description. Not ashamed are you ? or maybe ca ?
I don't assume anything you presume to much.
Ooo I love the way the bait simply ignores the parts where you show them to be wrong. Its SOOOOOOOOO funny.
Face facts, yet again you failed to get any real info and you just blurted out assumptions, were shown to do so, were shown to be exactly as I stated and , yet again, you just glibly ignore your own faults to press home attacks on others.
Its becomming symptomatic of the "Talon-type CFS" as a whole.
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Heavy - yeah I know, the problem is that the CFS as I find it all too often is the "Talon" variety which, as we ahve seen above, simply cannot open their eyes to their own garbage even when its in the same thread.
I wouldn't say from that that I hate the CFS, far from it, members like yourself tend to reassure us that the CFS isnt comprised entirely of blinkered fools like Talon.
The problem is the sheer vocal level of the Talons.
I mean here we are showing CFS members selling me out to assassins. Here we are showing Talon the exact unresearched bits of his posts that he simply now avoids mentioning because it means he has to admit he was wrong and I was right.
Unfortuantely the Talons of this world aren't interest in the CFS ideals, not justive or law. if they were they would be condemming people like Conqueror who sell out pilots for free to be murdered, or Ends who is trying to start a war.
But they don't.
And because they don't they are hypocritical liars - and i don't like them simply because of that.
Now if I believe the claims of people like the Talons and Ends, they are the controlling influence in the CFS. Shamefully we even see Calladen bowing to the "self righteous" attitude and pre-excluding evidence of CFS members openly selling outpilots..
why "Pre-exclude" it? No idea other than it obviously suits the CFS - and , once again, that hypocritical duplicity irks me. It certainly isnt the way an organisation with the ideals of the CFS is supposed to act.
They either uphold the law, in which case Conqueror should be censured,/disciplined, or they don't... in which everything I say about the CFS is true: they are just a prettier face to the same old system-grabbing alliances as elsewhere.
I mean - if they, like Talon, are just going to ignore every point they dont want to face up to - then they are worse than most of the other alliances... at least those have the courage to admit to what they are.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:28:00 -
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Morkt,
Thanks for posting that chatlog I'll bring it up with Yodaron and the Senate. It would be appreciated in the future if you'd notify us of problems rather then hijack forum threads for attacks on CFS ethics. Finding ONE person going against the instructions of our President is hardly proof the entire 800+ members of CFS are worthy of such hatred and scorn.
Now I really wish you'd get some rest. Maybe check the CO2 readings on your ships atmosphere? I'm really worried about you and have decided to take up a collection to help you pay for a vacation at the New Caldari Resort & Spa. The nurses there are all very nice and will take good care of you while you recover from this horrible event. I know having a breakdown like this is hard on a person but I know your strong and will make it thru just fine. The doctors there have all the latest anti-psychotic drugs and can work miracles.
Once your recovered from your situation you'll see CFS isn't a pack of wolves and the whole world isn't out to get you. I can only imagine the horror you must feel believing everyone is out to get you but I pray everynight in the chapel onboard my ship that you'll recover and regain sanity. Once your deamons are defeated your mind will clear and you'll stop seeing betrayal at every corner.
Once your well and relaxed we'll welcome you back with open arms. Get well my friend.
Calladen Nimitz
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:51:00 -
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Yoda already knows about that convo its not the first time Morkt has waved it in front of himself like a flag.
<takes Morkts pantys and begins the process of untieing about 100 knots>
<Gives up and passes Morkt a fresh new pair of boxers>
<hopes that will solve the problem>
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