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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:36:00 -
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Morkt insulting me gets you nowhere. As for ignoring bits you are the master of extracting the bits you can put together in your fictional posts and ignoring the rest.
I cant even be bothered to lower myself and answer your petty insults. Also came across some interesting info about you alliance links, very interesting(if true).
Again I feel you need to relax you know shopping therapy, read a book watch a film (nothing to excitable)
Tal
What goeas around comes around...
What goes around comes around...
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Yodaron Ballsithor
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Posted - 2003.11.27 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 27/11/2003 23:51:47
The conversation with Conqueror I received today by mail from Calladen and then I came here and read it. We will look into it and decide on appropriate action to take. I am not enamoured with the prospect of any CFS member selling or giving away information to others for the purpose of allowing the others to kill/pod a lawful player.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2003.11.27 23:52:00 -
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Man people let it go. Morkt doesnt like the CFS, especially some of the specific people in the CFS. Fine, not everyone can like everyone, we all know, defending ourselves to him just adds fuel to the fire so let it go.
Just let it go. There's more important stuff to talk about.
If anyone wants to know what the CFS is REALLY like they can come hang out with us in CFS space or CFS Public and talk to us.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.28 06:08:00 -
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Morkt, u speak as if you really think being on the CFS kos list is something to be worried about.
(Sorry, I really couldn't resist)
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.28 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 28/11/2003 06:27:21
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Morkt, u speak as if you really think being on the CFS kos list is something to be worried about.
(Sorry, I really couldn't resist)
*chuckles*
Weird thread, though interesting to know CFS sell location info, i might make use of that myself for someone i have been after for a long time.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2003.11.28 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 28/11/2003 06:27:21
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Morkt, u speak as if you really think being on the CFS kos list is something to be worried about.
(Sorry, I really couldn't resist)
*chuckles*
Weird thread, though interesting to know CFS sell location info, i might make use of that myself for someone i have been after for a long time.
Just a note: The "CFS" does not sell location info. If one or more people in the CFS do, I personally dont agree with it and this its a matter for the Senate and the Navy to deal with as they decide is neccessary. But try not to go making assumptions about the CFS in general.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2003.11.28 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 28/11/2003 11:50:10
I was approached by the same person for Morkts location info and said no and even felt obliged to convo Morkt and warn him. At the time he thanked me. What do I get in return insults and lies  . Oh and Morkt I never once implied I control the direction of the CFS.
Morkt you have no honour. 
Really for the good of your health you should resign, you know take up flower arranging maybe origami ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
What goes around comes around...
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Val Duane
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Posted - 2003.11.28 12:11:00 -
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These people complaining about the CFS and the attitudes of the people in it, need to do a little soul searching or something. I moved my corp down there a few days ago and have been polite and friendly, and guess what? They all been very kind, helpful, freindly and welcoming!! Wow....maybe it has something to do with the manner I started relations with them.
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Serge
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Posted - 2003.11.28 12:30:00 -
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Morkt, u speak as if you really think being on the CFS kos list is something to be worried about.
(Sorry, I really couldn't resist)
haha damn! get you sometime for this!
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Dr Gonzo
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Posted - 2003.11.28 12:39:00 -
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Biting the hand that feeds you?
I suspect the CFS will supply your location more freely now, so was it worth it?
It seems to me people actually enjoy having arguments and demonstrating their l337 forum skillz. Just play the game, enjoy it, this isn't the place to display your superior intelligence.
PS. Looking in from the outside rarely gives an insightful perspective.
Buy the ticket, take the ride. No sympathy from the Devil.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.28 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 28/11/2003 13:17:29
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Biting the hand that feeds you?
I suspect the CFS will supply your location more freely now, so was it worth it?
It seems to me people actually enjoy having arguments and demonstrating their l337 forum skillz. Just play the game, enjoy it, this isn't the place to display your superior intelligence.
PS. Looking in from the outside rarely gives an insightful perspective.
OoC
I had no intention of replying to this thread anymore but your post begs a break from that stance.
This is part of the game. Politics is part of EVE. If you don't realise it, or don't like it, great, but please don't get all righteous about telling others not to like it or do it ok? As far as Im concerned the Corp and Summit forums are "GalNet" and forums within the world of EVE and thus a political stage.
If you really dont want to be part of it then dont read and dont post. If you think all this is just forum arguing then definately don't get involved. let me try to explain/help though:
"I suspect the CFS will supply your location more freely now, so was it worth it?"
You assume that a) they know where I am, b) that they cant actually control their members to abide by their own rles c) that I dont want certain types of people going to where they think i am and flying into a big fat trap. You see a flag saying "Morkt is here" I see a system 57 jumps away from where i really am and so far have the names of 2 people who have attempted to put bounties on me - so yes it was worth it.
"Biting the hand that feeds you?"
It doesn't feed me in any way shape or form. As the above should show you, there are levels within levels of what can be achieved with a simple bit of misdirection, misinformation or public showcasing. Whether or not you can discern the "real" bits from the "fake" bits is the key.
In this case that a CFS did sell out a location is a bit of a "no-no" and reflects rather badly on the CFS as a whole. It was a dumb thing to do but I imagine in the long term he and every other CFS member will now think twice before doing the same - it was obviously little more than a trap (for them) in anycase - and whatever shorterm harm they may suffer for "whatever it is i gained" they will benefit more in the long term.
(once again I hope you can see the wheels within wheels)
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PS. Looking in from the outside rarely gives an insightful perspective.
I used to be a cop and arrested a fair few grim souls.. murderers, child rapists and suchlike... somehow i think looking in from the outside gave me all the perspective I needed, certainly gave me all I wanted, often too much.
Thats the danger with making "quips", invariably they are utterly pointless and counter-productive. In this case its also yet another assumption that that I am "outside" of anything. Try looking beyond the surface. ))
Hopefully that helps some who don't quite "get" what these forums provide in terms of an in-game dynamic, even though they sit outside of the game environment itself. They are, in many ways, the "global chat channels" of other games and they can be used for relevant in-game purposes. A LOT ofpeople use them for such.
This stuff is "fun", I don't hold any grudge or hatred for anybody in this game at all, Morkt gets RP'd as Morkt is - beligerent, sly, coniving, he'll hit the verge of ranting, then forget all about things... but hes also actually on the good side , "chaotic good" would be his alignment.
Its known as RP, to many its a long lost art that people used to do back in the "Goode Olde Dayes" of MUDs.
Its a game guys - enjoy it but try to RP it a bit also. I dont want to "argue" with the person behind the character, Im not interested in "free speech" if its going to be how you percceive it from an "american stance" - thats not RP, that's the person behind the character talking. Whats "Free Speech" to the CFS - thats whats important.
I hate having to do these ooC posts just to put people on track but sometimes I just see folks like Gonzo apparently (and note i said apaprently) missing the ball-park altogether. It's not l33t forum skillz, its EVE politics... its sad so few seem to recognise this.
Or, going back to Morkt:
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.28 14:02:00 -
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Indeed. This forum is very much part of the game.
EVE is a game about power... And what is power? Military, economics and politics.
And this forum certainly plays a big role in both of the last two...
And also, posts made on the corp-, summit-, crime- and market-forum should be made in character...
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.11.28 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Alkad Mzu on 28/11/2003 14:19:01
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Whats "Free Speech" to the CFS - thats whats important.
I guess some would ultimatly claim it to be the ability to flame, rant and put bounties on characters they dislike ingame, regardless of CFS's official stance. I could be wrong though 
The terms "democracy" and "control" don't pair well do they, a fact you're apparenntly inclined to exploit to the disadvantage of CFS at every given oportunity - for whatever reason.
You certainly do see the wheels within wheels, Morkt Drak.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.28 15:10:00 -
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Ocha ye - I think there's a huge disadvantage to trying to be democratic and even more so in trying to provide an "open border" policy and "free space for all".
In all honesty I see tremendous dificulties ahead ofr the CFS and simply cannot see anyway they can keep the "free space" bill in its current format (without them being taken massively advantage of and watching the entire 3 regions become strip-mined wastelands)
And some folks think i dont care...
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.28 16:27:00 -
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The terms "democracy" and "control" don't pair well do they...
Ehm... If a democracy can't control that it's members follows the decissions taken in a democratic way, can it then be considered a democracy?
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.11.28 18:49:00 -
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The terms "democracy" and "control" don't pair well do they...
Ehm... If a democracy can't control that it's members follows the decissions taken in a democratic way, can it then be considered a democracy?
Dalman, as you would notice from my quoting of Morkt, my reply was to his concern over "free speech" in CFS. I don't see a democracy being able to gag itself by a "decision taken in a democratic way", as free speech is considered by most a cornerstone in democracy.
It would be an interesting experiment, to say the least :p
Anyways, i agree with your sentiment in general. It was just in the wrong context. :)
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