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Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:07:00 - [1] IAC allies with -A-, two alliances that don't particularly like each other. -A-'s motivation here can't honestly be to assist IAC, but to gain some red targets and knock the rust off of their cap fleets. To my understanding, after taking huzzah out they were stablizing their new territory. Correct me if I am wrong. So IAC, if you're able to maintain handle of your Outposts, and with a joined initiative are able to push LV/McFix back, and start taking ISS outposts. Are you aware that potentially -A- will be in a fantastic position, with your exposed flanks, to simply finish you off? I guess my point is, don't let your guard down, you should realise as well as I do, -A- doesn't give a crap about you or your future, and people should really think twice as labeling threads IAC&Friends. It's just not accurate. This is politics at their worst, and IAC will more than likely still get burned from this, but instead of just a single alliance getting burned, ISS will more than likely feel some hurt as well. So much for going out with your heads held high IAC, instead you've signed a contract with the devil in a desperate attempt for revenge. I know there is a vast percentage of your members that hate -A- with a passion, I won't be surprised if you start losing members over this debacle. Nothing good will come of this. I'm 90% sure of it, the other 10% is reserved for that miracle that -A- really has a crush on IAC and wants to restore their stability, instead of taking advantage of two weakened military powers. All this will accomplish is more single alliance control over southern territory, -A- will be able to consume ISS and IAC, and become more of a threat to LV and BoB. The south will be hell when its LV vs -A- vs BoB, i can't honestly see any two sides of that equation getting in bed with one another. Oh and the reason I made a seperate thread for this, I have a point and opinions to make, and I prefer not to ride the forum coattails of some content-less, point-less spam. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Good luck, IAC, you've kinda disappointed me, and I no longer have any interest in maintaining my good opinion of your political " decisions (MISTAKES)"
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:12:00 - [2] You'll be surprised to hear that IAC has been allied and working with 90% of -A-'s blues for a LONG TIME. The only reason that I assume IAC were still red to -A- was because of Huzzah, and eventually NoQ (both good allies). It sorta makes sense to call upon a strong force who pretty much hold the same sorta standings as you, minus a couple of... anomalies, when the survival of your alliance is threatened. Hardly selling your soul to the devil, more like selling your soul to the friend of a friend Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:15:00 - [3] Edited by: Crucifier on 22/12/2006 15:15:18 Knock the rust of our capital fleet? You realise we are taking outposts from your friends axe dont you? ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:16:00 - [4] .-A-. isn't the devil Them turning on us? lmao Your grasp on the political situation seems a bit tenuous to be making judgements on our politics btw As to your interest in maintaining your good opinion of our politics, hasn't your only involvement in this been flaming IAC (mostly about some ASCN that ISS blew up ?) Can't say I'm sorry we disappointed you, whoever you are. http://eve.klaki.net/
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:16:00 - [5] Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 15:17:37 Originally by: Cyllaina -A-'s motivation here can't honestly be to assist IAC, but to gain some red targets and knock the rust off of their cap fleets. To my understanding, after taking huzzah out they were stablizing their new territory. Correct me if I am wrong. Um. You're in ASCN and you don't know that for the last few months, -A- has been engaged in an all-out siege war with your sister alliance AXE? You know, right up above Feyth in Impass and all that? ... ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:17:00 - [6] Originally by: GO MaZ You'll be surprised to hear that IAC has been allied and working with 90% of -A-'s blues for a LONG TIME. The only reason that I assume IAC were still red to -A- was because of Huzzah, and eventually NoQ (both good allies). It sorta makes sense to call upon a strong force who pretty much hold the same sorta standings as you, minus a couple of... anomalies, when the survival of your alliance is threatened. Hardly selling your soul to the devil, more like selling your soul to the friend of a friend Isnt IAC blue to AXE either, while -A- attacks AXE? Can be a reason also. I dont think -A- is gonna backstab anyone. IAC owes -A- something now though. I wanne be a devil also ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:17:00 - [7] I'm sorry but I don't quite remember any of this " working together " IAC Council/High Command whatever you want to call it, has never been open or even social to their member base about any of their activities this includes the Execs and Directors boards, so who knows. But, what I do know from first-hand experiance, and i wouldn't post about this otherwise, is that when -A- was taking over Huzzah, Foo and a lot of the other guys were deadly passionate by heading up there to tag some -A- Dreads, and there was an outcry of passion distaste for -A- in general, almost every day on ventrillo. I couldn't honestly say, i heard or read a single sentiment that was Pro-A-. Now with that on the table, if IAC as a whole is able to turn around such a passionate disliking against -A- and treat them as saviors and a way out of a mess, the same leadership got them into, then I wonder how quickly the same IAC members could turn on each other... Loyalty isn't only to other people, it is also to yourself and your views. This sounds a great lack thereof. I can't honestly say I believe that IAC had any notion this would be their fate.. infact the ventrillo chat two nights ago, an entire fleet of IAC sounded as if all was loss. So you won't fool me with " this has been in the works." style speal.. You can't and won't impress me with such magic tricks. I have first-hand knowledge and experiance on my side, sorry.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Crucifier Edited by: Crucifier on 22/12/2006 15:15:18 Knock the rust of our capital fleet? You realise we are taking outposts from your friends axe dont you? YOU LIAR!!! -- so when the devil wants to dance with you, you better say never because the dance with the devil might last you forever -- Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
CDS Leader Caldari Eve Forum Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:20:00 - [9] Edited by: CDS Leader on 22/12/2006 15:20:37 Wearing a midriff top and twirling yellow pompoms, Cadiz wrote Grrrrrl Power on his stomach in marker pen before doing an impressive back-flip and chanting: Originally by: Cadiz Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 15:17:37 Originally by: Cyllaina -A-'s motivation here can't honestly be to assist IAC, but to gain some red targets and knock the rust off of their cap fleets. To my understanding, after taking huzzah out they were stablizing their new territory. Correct me if I am wrong. Um. You're in ASCN and you don't know that for the last few months, -A- has been engaged in an all-out siege war with your sister alliance AXE? You know, right up above Feyth in Impass and all that? ... He does not mine in Impass... Thats why he is unaware Join Eve Forum Warriors Free Wardecs on Alliances! A Pirates Dream!
Uuve Savisaalo Umbra Congregatio	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:21:00 - [10] Skvoz' MC siyalo nam solntse svobody, I Sadist veliky nam put' ozaril,
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:21:00 - [11] Okay, so I don't pay attention to AXE much, yeah we share security channels, but to my knowledge they don't speak very often, lol... -A- may have been attacking AXE all along, but why would I ever take notice? We've been busy with BoB, and as far as I can tell AXE isn't that huge of a military threat to anyone, nor have they been a military asset in our war. So excuse me if I didn't find any significance in that fact you've been picking on AXE... ( If im burning any bridges here today, please ask me if I care) The individual corporation of ASCN has been abandoned by the " whole ", I can't honestly say there is any sort of unity or united front in our defense, its every corporation for themselves, just ask CORM, they sat in their station while 20+ BoB attacked one of our carriers for 20 minutes, just 1 jump away. So don't think i'm making any mistakes, when I think things through you won't convince me otherwise whether or not my opinions are valid. I might be misinformed about a few things, but I will listen to the facts you have to offer me and revise my views to match, so please keep the trollin down.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:21:00 - [12] yeah...let's create another post on this conflict....now there are 6....
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:24:00 - [13] Well as long as you stop posting useless crap like a thread-counter update, I'm sure this one will go away soon. Also as a friendly request. If anyone has anything to respond to me about, please make sure you scroll down to see my responses to other peoples comments before you go and pull things out of context, I have a habit of applying further explaination on my views as the conversation develops, so if you must make smart-ass remarks, make sure you read everything I have to offer before you put your minimal-effort into typing some smack. Thank you!
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Cyllaina Okay, so I don't pay attention to AXE much, yeah we share security channels, but to my knowledge they don't speak very often, lol... -A- may have been attacking AXE all along, but why would I ever take notice? We've been busy with BoB, and as far as I can tell AXE isn't that huge of a military threat to anyone, nor have they been a military asset in our war. So excuse me if I didn't find any significance in that fact you've been picking on AXE... ( If im burning any bridges here today, please ask me if I care) The individual corporation of ASCN has been abandoned by the " whole ", I can't honestly say there is any sort of unity or united front in our defense, its every corporation for themselves, just ask CORM, they sat in their station while 20+ BoB attacked one of our carriers for 20 minutes, just 1 jump away. So don't think i'm making any mistakes, when I think things through you won't convince me otherwise whether or not my opinions are valid. I might be misinformed about a few things, but I will listen to the facts you have to offer me and revise my views to match, so please keep the trollin down. They arent helping you because we dont let them stupid. ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:29:00 - [15] Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 15:31:36 Originally by: Cyllaina Okay, so I don't pay attention to AXE much, yeah we share security channels, but to my knowledge they don't speak very often, lol... -A- may have been attacking AXE all along, but why would I ever take notice? We've been busy with BoB, and as far as I can tell AXE isn't that huge of a military threat to anyone, nor have they been a military asset in our war. So excuse me if I didn't find any significance in that fact you've been picking on AXE... ( If im burning any bridges here today, please ask me if I care) The individual corporation of ASCN has been abandoned by the " whole ", I can't honestly say there is any sort of unity or united front in our defense, its every corporation for themselves, just ask CORM, they sat in their station while 20+ BoB attacked one of our carriers for 20 minutes, just 1 jump away. So don't think i'm making any mistakes, when I think things through you won't convince me otherwise whether or not my opinions are valid. I might be misinformed about a few things, but I will listen to the facts you have to offer me and revise my views to match, so please keep the trollin down. Selfish ignorance is a pretty amusing thing. The reason why AXE hasn't been helping you out in Feyth vs BoB is because they've been busy with the Rus. Before that, they were doing various raids into BoB space and pitching in with the early Paragon Soul/Period Basis border skirmishing (and helping IAC vs the first McFIXKIA war). So yeah, they kinda have problems of their own right now, which is why they cannot drop everything to go rush to AZN like some members of ASCN seem to think they should be doing. And from what I understand, AXE was previously considered "the warhounds of ASCN" or something...you know, the more PvP-oriented branch of ASCN that parted from the mother alliance on extremely amicable terms and operates jointly and in a closely coordinated fashion. You know, the guys who (in theory) actually know how to run a fleet battle. I wouldn't really know from practical experience because all I really ever saw of the Surefire Flawless Deathgrip School of Fleet Command was POS-hugging and yelling at people who were out trying to get kills, but so goes the story, anyways. I know in AXE we were always keeping close tabs on what was going on with ASCN...so glad to see that the ASCN guys were returning the favour. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Cyllaina rabble rabble rabble Wow.. another thread attempting to pour gasoline on the bonfire... how quaint! You know what they say about opinions being like certain body parts... everyone has one, and they all stink. Seriously though - did we really need to start YET ANOTHER pointless thread on the subject, when there are already plenty to contribute to? Guess some people just like seeing their name in the "thread starter" section. But hey, thanks for your .0000002 ISK on the already beaten-to-a-dead-pulp topic! (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:31:00 - [17] Tyraxx, if you actually READ what I posted in the other threads about the ASCN ships blowing up, I actually told Blackhorizon of UMBRA to drop it and that the ship loss's were by pilot error and of no consequence to ASCN.. Thats not a flame, thats saying We don't care about it. Infact thats trying to maintain neutrality in YOUR war, but way to completely misinterpret that, just like you screwed up negotations with ISS to begin with, sigh. As in not knowing who I am... You're kidding right? Up until recently I've been in your Ventrillo chats since I left IAC 3-4 months ago, and I've still had forum access with decent permissions. So you can hold on to your plea of ignorance all you want. But come on now....... Fleet chat, individual chat, forum postings, I had access to all of it up until this week, so don't try to discredit me with futule attempts of flame. I'm not as easy to burn as some of your intellectual equals..
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:32:00 - [18] Well as an ex-IAC pilot you abused a priviledge. Only yesterday were you banned from our Ventrilo server for spying. Sell our soul? you can talk.
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Cyllaina Tyraxx, if you actually READ what I posted in the other threads about the ASCN ships blowing up, I actually told Blackhorizon of UMBRA to drop it and that the ship loss's were by pilot error and of no consequence to ASCN.. Thats not a flame, thats saying We don't care about it. Infact thats trying to maintain neutrality in YOUR war, but way to completely misinterpret that, just like you screwed up negotations with ISS to begin with, sigh. As in not knowing who I am... You're kidding right? Up until recently I've been in your Ventrillo chats since I left IAC 3-4 months ago, and I've still had forum access with decent permissions. So you can hold on to your plea of ignorance all you want. But come on now....... Fleet chat, individual chat, forum postings, I had access to all of it up until this week, so don't try to discredit me with futule attempts of flame. I'm not as easy to burn as some of your intellectual equals.. You realise every1 here thinks your an idiot if not a retard? ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:36:00 - [20] I hardly think this thread is useless, It is a forum for me to hold a conversation with multiple-parties, It has nothing to do with you, especially if you don't even read my disclaimer at the bottom of the initial post about WHY i made it seperate. Jebsus.... Oh and as far as ASCN expecting AXE to help us... whered that come from? Our high command? Please, our high command are inept and incompetant without cyvok leading the way, We couldnt even put together more than 20-30 ships to defend against the bob 50+ when they took c9n... AZN will fall just as easy, people don't give a damn anymore, and SamuraiJack and his ilk, are not people you'll find me following to the end, I'm smarter than that, they think with other body parts other than their brains. Boot me out of ASCN, they probably should, i've already made it open to my corp leadership I have no further interest in prosuing active offensive or defensive actions against BoB, after being abandoned by our own guys in defense of our assets. So please, leave the AXE/ASCN support junk and internal strife of ASCN out of this, can we focus on the topic at hand? This is why posts become useless... people get sidetracked and emotional. oh well. DOn't blame me.
IntegralHellsing Gallente The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:38:00 - [21] lol, so you decided to put anyone not siding with you to a 'devil' category ------------------------------
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:39:00 - [22] Crucifer, do you actually think anyones personal opinions of me are of any consequence to my experiance here? Lol, dillusions of grandure on your part I suppose, now quit throwing this thread off track. Go back to your cave, troll.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:42:00 - [23] BANNED FOR SPYING??? SPYING??? What the heck could I possibly gain from spying on your defensive actions N SX? Gawd.. hell, until this fiasco with -A- I've been an avid IAC supporter. Jeez. I really wish the memberbase of IAC would speak up and get rid of you lot. You are so incompetant in your abilities to READ/FORUMLATE IDEAS/COME TO CONCLUSIONS nevermind leading an alliance.
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:42:00 - [24] Originally by: IntegralHellsing lol, so you decided to put anyone not siding with you to a 'devil' category But we actually like beeing the devil ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Cyllaina This is why posts become useless... people get sidetracked and emotional. oh well. DOn't blame me. Don't blame you? What a laugh. The topic was useless from the getgo. You know it was an "emotional" topic to begin with, if you didn't expect "emotional" responses, then you're really just fooling yourself. (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:44:00 - [26] IntegralHellsing, selling your soul to the devil is an expression, I don't believe in RL religion, it's silly just like your comment. IAC couldnt side with ASCN, we like LV more than them, and ontop of that, we're getting stabbed with hot pokers by BoB... Sigh.. I feel like i'm talking to 12 year olds. Next time I post anything I find to be of significant value, i'm going to draw Pictures in MS PAINT to compensate for the intelleuctal GAP here.
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:45:00 - [27] Originally by: Cyllaina I really wish the memberbase of IAC would speak up and get rid of you lot. You are so incompetant in your abilities to READ/FORUMLATE IDEAS/COME TO CONCLUSIONS nevermind leading an alliance. Now who's trolling? What a pointless thread... (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:46:00 - [28] Wow, and I thought I made a worthwhile post in a thread, and then you shoot your own thread down by being a retard. GG! Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:46:00 - [29] Toman, again. Please, you have nothing useful to say, so just move on.. If you're complaining about this thread in general, then quit fueling the fire, you're directly attributing to this thread maintaining the top position of the list. Common... Sense..... Where are you?!
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:47:00 - [30] And great, now Maz is contribtunig to the life-span of this thread.. Woot.. Let's all post useless spam and keep it alive and complain about it still being there!

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