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VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.10.01 13:35:28 -
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With all the new players begging for their 350,000 free skill points, I thought it high time to let them know who the true kings of EVE are.
This topic is for the players that started with approximately 900,000 skill points. You, stalwart champion, have not been spoon fed like this common rabble.
You've endured! Its high time you're recognized for it.
Put the peasants in their place!!
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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
256
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Posted - 2015.10.01 14:22:27 -
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I think you forgot the counter balance to that 900k... can you say learning skills? *Shrugs* |
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.01 14:29:02 -
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Of the old 800-900k starting SP, more than half of it was in two rank 1 level 5 skills that weren't super relevant to new players (gunnery V and small racial turret V for combat, science and mining/industry V for industry bloodlines iirc). Being 12 hours from t2 small weapons was neat but keep in mind that you had nearly zero support skills and no real way to pay for the weapons in the first place.
Not to mention that the most efficient way of playing the game for the first month was to go afk while you trained learning skills instead of actually playing the game. This also included alarm clocking when your skills were completed so you could start a new one since the queue was not a thing yet, which is a royal pain in the ass for skills that take a couple hours to train. I probably lost quite a few precious days in my first couple months because I forgot to queue up a long skill overnight.
Even more damning than that was that if you wanted the best combat character, you were basically forced to roll Caldari Achura Monks because it had the best starting stats. It got a little better when they introduced the new bloodlines since Khanid were only slightly worse so then you had two good options and 3-4 more mediocre ones.
tldr: Back in my day I had to walk 20 miles in the snow to school uphill both ways, get off my lawn |
Memphis Baas
632
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Posted - 2015.10.01 14:36:28 -
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Started with 900k skillpoints.
Got refunded the skillpoints from learning skills: +1,500,000 points.
Had Destroyers 5, Battlecruisers 5, and all the racial frigate and cruiser skills at 5, so CCP awarded me Caldari, Gallente, Amarr, Minmatar Destroyer at 5, and Caldari, Gallente, Amarr, Minmatar Battlecruiser at 5. So that's an increase of +6,400,000 skill points.
Stopped playing for a year, so that's a loss of -16,000,000 skill points compared to those who continued to play.
Bottom line: people get bored and so newbies can definitely catch up, if all they care about is skill point totals. |
VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises The Volition Cult
80
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Posted - 2015.10.01 15:25:15 -
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Krell Kroenen wrote:I think you forgot the counter balance to that 900k... can you say learning skills? *Shrugs*
i think you forgot about the month worth of time it took to train them and then at new players now get accelerated skill training. -Master Race |
Best Korea
Leap Technologies
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Posted - 2015.10.01 16:04:35 -
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I'm also in the boat of people that started with 900k SP but got reimbursed 1.5M SP after learning skills got removed. So, eh. |
VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises The Volition Cult
80
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Posted - 2015.10.01 16:58:14 -
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Best Korea wrote:I'm also in the boat of people that started with 900k SP but got reimbursed 1.5M SP after learning skills got removed. So, eh.
peasant detected. you didn't lose any skill time so you deserve nothing. your point is invalid. |
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
258
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:38:56 -
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VaL Iscariot wrote:Krell Kroenen wrote:I think you forgot the counter balance to that 900k... can you say learning skills? *Shrugs* i think you forgot about the month worth of time it took to train them and then at new players now get accelerated skill training. -Master Race
No I didn't forget but I may have misunderstood the real intent of your original post. I thought you implying how the 900k starting characters had more of an advantage than current starting characters and that it was unfair. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
3435
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:57:58 -
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Destoya wrote:Of the old 800-900k starting SP, more than half of it was in two rank 1 level 5 skills that weren't super relevant to new players (gunnery V and small racial turret V for combat, science and mining/industry V for industry bloodlines iirc). Being 12 hours from t2 small weapons was neat but keep in mind that you had nearly zero support skills and no real way to pay for the weapons in the first place.
Not to mention that the most efficient way of playing the game for the first month was to go afk while you trained learning skills instead of actually playing the game. This also included alarm clocking when your skills were completed so you could start a new one since the queue was not a thing yet, which is a royal pain in the ass for skills that take a couple hours to train. I probably lost quite a few precious days in my first couple months because I forgot to queue up a long skill overnight.
Even more damning than that was that if you wanted the best combat character, you were basically forced to roll Caldari Achura Monks because it had the best starting stats. It got a little better when they introduced the new bloodlines since Khanid were only slightly worse so then you had two good options and 3-4 more mediocre ones.
tldr: Back in my day I had to walk 20 miles in the snow to school uphill both ways, get off my lawn
And mining V and reprocessing V if you went the route of miner. I know, I still have that mining character I first started with, tried mining and went right back to the character creation process.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
So Local Chat vanished, now what?
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
14048
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:15:03 -
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umm yeah, went into learning skills. Did later get it refunded and dropped into more BS training. Learning skills was a bit... unremarkable, few to none were sad to see it go. I'm not sure the point of the OP... mocking newbies or backslapping vets *shrugs* Or both haha
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Paranoid Loyd
7067
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:19:25 -
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Clean this **** up!
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Johan Civire
Flux Technologies Inc Gentlemen's.Parlor
981
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:24:05 -
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Why are people upset by this? not a fear start? how about people that born later than you guys? so thats fear? O wait thats life right? progress to you know. The last 100 years are incredible great journey in or species. Without this we are still killing witches and pray for imagining friend above. So people that join later can have a better "balance start:" than we had back then. remember those 3 months learning skills to lvl 5 :( without implants. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
14048
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:25:17 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AofQtEM5znU
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Paranoid Loyd
7069
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:39:01 -
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That's nice and all, but SP threads are to be graced with ferrets, we can do hogs in the next series of drama threads.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
14050
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:13:05 -
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This thread needs more dramatic music ...with ferrets, and more ferrets ...and dogs too, yes it does.
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises The Volition Cult
80
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:39:07 -
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master race thread about skill points and you post a white ferret... what are you trying to say? |
Areen Sassel
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:46:27 -
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Krell Kroenen wrote:I think you forgot the counter balance to that 900k... can you say learning skills? *Shrugs*
Don't forget the tiercide giveaway. It all evens out in the long run. :-) |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.10.02 05:00:10 -
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800k sp reporting in! 512k was missile bombardment 5... like wtf CCP. caldari special forces sounded really cool, and like that is the skill you get for it!? now that I know better there were so many better options. 8+ years later and I'm not sure I've ever even benefited from having it at 5. bleh, stupid missiles
@ChainsawPlankto
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Memphis Baas
639
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Posted - 2015.10.02 12:06:11 -
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Would be cool if having the skill at 5 gave a perk, like if the missiles traced your name in space with their smoke trails before hitting the target (instead of flying straight at it).
Whoosh ---Chainsaw-Plankton--- Boom. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
the troll bridge
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:13:17 -
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>>> SP THREAD DETECTED <<<
>>> SCANS DETECT FERRET CONTENT FROM OTHER SOURCES PRESENT <<<
>>> NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO OVERRIDE?.... Y <<<
>>> INITIATING FERRET CONTENT INJECTION <<<
>>> FERRET CONTENT PACKAGE LOADING........... done. <<<
>>> PREPARING TO SEND............ done. <<<
>>> SENDING <<<
http://orig00.deviantart.net/f290/f/2007/048/1/f/ferret_bath_time_by_vandalsgirl.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/19/33/7b/19337bcf806eadb6385eb8982208fbc0.jpg
http://ferretuniverse.com/assets/pics/chipper.jpg
http://suffolk-ferrets.co.uk/images/your_photos/bath2.jpg
https://41.media.tumblr.com/f5b1f19fe7f0d0e90c56e55b9c0378f8/tumblr_nfhy2yCXno1tiewpho1_500.jpg
>>> CONFIRMING DELIVERY OF CONTENT....... done. <<<
>>> RETURNING TO ACTIVE FORUM SCAN <<<
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26406
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:20:35 -
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Reporting in. Also, reporting in with Caldari, Achura, Monks GÇö the masterest of master races.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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DaReaper
Net 7
2612
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:34:36 -
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too old to remember what i started at, but this crying over a few hundred k sp's is laughable
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises The Volition Cult
81
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Posted - 2015.10.03 12:54:10 -
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Tippia wrote:Reporting in. Also, reporting in with Caldari, Achura, Monks GÇö the masterest of master races.
Master Rest? I'll allow it. Caldari, Detis, Soldier ftw
I just had to be a SWArten. Now you get to PICK! unheard of. |
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