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Selaria Unbertable
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:34:54 -
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Querns wrote:Jessica Keyes wrote:I may be dumb but 50% reduction to ice duration role bonus, 5% per level in ice duration for mining frigate and 5% reduction in ice duration for expedition frigate...
So if expedition frigate is level 5 then
50% + 5%(5) + 5%(5) = 100% reduction to ice harvest duration.
Im sure there is stacking of some sort? Reductions to ice mining speed stack multiplicatively, not additively.
And if I did the math correctly, you end up with a reduction from 330s to 123,75s for the T2 ice lasers... Which means that the base harvesting time of the Discovery will be almost en par with a Skiff with a T2 Ice Harvester, since it will mine 2 blocks per cycle.
Pretty amazing. |
Selaria Unbertable
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:44:20 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:Discovery... Role Bonuses: - 200% bonus to Mining yield
Are you sure it's not 100%? 200% would mean it can harvest 3 blocks per cycle. With all those duration reductions, that seems pretty strong. I mean, that would theoretically even surpass a Hulk. Not that I'm not fond of a pure ice harvesting ship, but that seems a lot... Looks like I have to train another alt into Expedition frigates sooner than later. |
Selaria Unbertable
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Posted - 2015.10.03 02:27:03 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Selaria Unbertable wrote:CCP Terminus wrote:Discovery... Role Bonuses: - 200% bonus to Mining yield
Are you sure it's not 100%? 200% would mean it can harvest 3 blocks per cycle. With all those duration reductions, that seems pretty strong. I mean, that would theoretically even surpass a Hulk. Not that I'm not fond of a pure ice harvesting ship, but that seems a lot... Looks like I have to train another alt into Expedition frigates sooner than later. it says mining yield, so I was assuming that doesn't count vs ice. otherwise I think it would be insane for mining ice 
You're right, a 200% bonus to ice harvesting would be a little too much and quite overpowered. |
Selaria Unbertable
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Posted - 2015.10.03 02:55:48 -
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Okay, just did the math again (I assume this is correct, slightly drunk at the moment  ):
An Ice Harvester II has a cycle time of 250s. Ice Harvesting 5 reduces the cycle time by 25%. This results in (I use the Skiff for comparison, since I usually use it for ice harvesting):
Skiff:
- Mining Barge 5: 10% reduction in cycle time
- Exhumer 5: 10% reduction in cycle time
- Role Bonus 5: 60% reduction in cycle time
That results (all bonuses are multiplied) in:
0.75 * 0.9 * 0.9 * 0.4 * 250s = 60.75s (without rigs or Ice Harvester Upgrades)
Discovery:
- Expedition Frigate 5: 25% reduction in cycle time
- Mining Frigat 5: 25% reduction in cycle time
- Role Bonus 5: 50% reduction in cycle time
That results (all bonuses are multiplied) in:
0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.5 * 330s = 69.91s (Ice Mining Laser II without rigs or Ice Harvester Upgrades)
This is actually pretty close. Both ships have the same ore hold size, but the Discovery will be much cheaper (at least after a few weeks). If you don't want to skill into mining barges/exhumers, this seems to be a valid alternative. Can't wait to get my hands on a few of those. |
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