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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.23 19:38:00 -
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Derelik: A backwater region without enough population to warrant industrial efforts, or a rich un-tapped market? I can tell you from experience that this region is very capable of sustaining a market, but is currently plagued by an under-supply of vital ships and modules.
The new corporation, Derelik Trading Company (DERTC), is being founded as an effort to fix that. With an investment of five billion ISK, fifty-four new blueprints will be purchased and researched in a well-defended starbase in low-security space (with the blueprints located in a station and transported to the station in a Covert Ops frigate) while fifty-one pre-researched blueprints (which I will sell to the corporation at 70% above the listed price in the Item Database [except for the battleship blueprints, which will be priced at 15% above list price], as seems to be fairly standard in the Sell Orders forum) will be put to use immediately.
The ISK not spent on blueprints and the research starbase will go to renting an initial two offices and purchasing a mineral stockpile to make sure that manufacturing efforts are not halted for lack of raw materials.
Risk of theft of minerals will be addressed by limiting the number of corporate manufacturers (and therefore people with take access to a particular mineral hangar) to a level suitable for maintaining stocks of goods in the hub systems, and no more. Likewise, not all minerals will be placed into an unsecured hangar, with the rest being placed in a hangar with only one or two people with access. Manufacturers will also be limited to take access in a single hub. These dedicated manufacturers will be paid for their time with blueprint copies.
Due to initial difficulties with limited blueprint supply and long copying times, blueprints will not be locked down, but only the CEO will be given Take access to the BPOs hangar. Corporation profits will be used to buy duplicate blueprints as necessary to serve multiple hubs if demand outstrips copying speeds. A later vote to lock blueprints will be put forward if copies are sufficient to service all established trade hubs.
Once all the blueprints are researched to a satisfactory level, the starbase's labs will be made available for contracted research for third parties, with corporate researchers holding priority over slots and gaining a discount for their services.
To discourage pirate corporations from seeking to prey on DERTC's industrial operations, a reasonably-sized combat wing will be recruited. They will also be employed to ensure the safety of operations in low-security space, and to protect the starbase from any large threats should it for some reason be attacked. The combat wing will be given free frigates insured by the corporation for usage in combat ops, free tech one modules, and access to discounted cruisers and battleships if the corporation owns a BPO.
To further encourage market development beyond the manufacturing abilities of a few dedicated manufacturers, semi-independent industrialists will be recruited. These industrialists will gain access to corporate blueprint copies (with the exception of battleship BPCs, which are reserved for dedicated manufacturers) in exchange for finished goods and the understanding that they will not sell their goods in designated DERTC hubs. This allows newer manufacturers to get into manufacturing without the hassle of buying and researching a blueprint with the long queues for material research in public labs.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.23 19:39:00 -
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I would like to think that I have proven myself trustworthy during my time in Eve. I have only one account with only one main character and an alt character I used to buy and move goods in empire to be ready for carrier runs into 0.0 space. Likewise, I have been very active on the New Citizens Questions and Answers forum helping teach new players the ropes, and wrote my guide for science and industry when the system was updated in Red Moon Rising. I already have a few billions of my own and have no reason to ruin my good reputation for more money that I do not know what to do with.
I am not funding DERTC entirely myself because I intend on building a healthy corporation that can continue to service the Derelik region should I leave, either because I decide to quit Eve or if I wish to start a new industrial venture. A corporation cannot grow and thrive if one person can decide to simply pull the plug on it at any given time. This being as it is, I put forward my small offering to the citizens of Eve.
The five billion ISK will be raised through the sale of 50,000 shares priced at 100,000 ISK each with no minimum investment. Shares can be reserved immediately. Once 20,000 shares have been reserved, actual sales will begin and everybody who has reserved shares will be able to transfer the money to me, sending me an evemail to indicate that the money has been transferred. The shares will then be transferred the next time I log on, which will be no more than twenty-four hours after the evemail is sent. If you absolutely refuse to perform a transaction without a broker, a broker may be used but you will pay the broker's fee in addition to the price of the shares. Willing brokers may volunteer, and a broker that satisfies both of us can be chosen from the available pool.
50% of each month's profits as will be paid as dividends, 10% will be paid to me (or whoever else is the CEO) as a salary, and the remaining 40% will be used to grow the corporation.
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Nathan Grey
Gallente
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.12.24 18:51:00 -
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As a local, I welcome the market competition. However, it takes more than having something on the market to lure new pilots.
I recommend checking Hasateem, Irshah, Sendaya, Assah, Juddi, Uanzin, Berta, and Dysa as noteworthy market nodes.
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Industrialist. I build it. You buy it. You break it and buy another one.
Market domination through ingue ferrogue.
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Jaggire
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Posted - 2006.12.24 22:10:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Nathan Grey
As a local, I welcome the market competition. However, it takes more than having something on the market to lure new pilots.
I recommend checking Hasateem, Irshah, Sendaya, Assah, Juddi, Uanzin, Berta, and Dysa as noteworthy market nodes.
I'd like to recommend Gamis as well. There's typically 30+ people in local at most times, and it's a quick jump to the western half of the low sec areas.
It's good to see a good attempt that establishing a decent market in Derelik, it's sorely needed with the recent influx of residents.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.25 17:46:00 -
[5]
Well I'm glad to hear the positive thoughts. Now if only people would lay down some money, perhaps? 
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Votee
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:20:00 -
[6]
Honestly, you wont get any money with this IPO. You dont have any business plan, besides this two posts what you probably wrote in 15 minutes. You answered none of the questions which are always raised regarding to IPOs.
You dont give any reason why we should trust you, you have no detailed plan, you offer no security, have no exit plan, etc. etc.
You offer nothing, just these two posts, and ask for 5B.
What do you expect?
regards,
Votee
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:12:00 -
[7]
Well, though I thought that I made a rather clearly-written executive summary up there, I guess I was wrong. Though, getting slightly defensive here, I must say that looking through the market and getting the list of BPOs I wanted to buy took more than fifteen minutes. 
Anyway, I'll shamelessly lift Montaire's list of questions and highlight them for the investing public:
1. How do you plan to make money
Though the sale of tech one modules to the Derelik region in high-traffic hubs, taking advantage of the current very high markup on modules. I have already researched which blueprints would be good to begin with due to their trading volume and their profit per unit.
2. How safe is the investment, what is your fallback plan
Roughly 15% of the investment, the research starbase, will sit in low security where it can be harmed. It will be heavily armed and we will field a defensive combat wing, minimizing the chances of it being destroyed. The blueprints being researched by that station will be transported in a covert ops frigate and sit safely in a station.
3. Why should we trust you
I am heavily invested in my reputation as a helpful, trustworthy player. If you've gone to any Texas anime conventions, you may have seen me chasing down one of our customers who left without taking their change.
4. How long will it take to get our money back
Of all the questions, I must admit that this one is very difficult to answer, as Derelik's market is very sparsely populated. With the high markup allowed on modules in this sparse market, however, the number of modules needed to "pay off" a blueprint's cost with profit on module sales is reduced. Also, I must stress that since the only reason the corporation could reasonly lose value is if griefers attacked the starbase with several dreadnoughts, gaining nothing for themselves, that the shares themselves should retain their value much like a blueprint retains value after being purchased from the market.
5. How much of the profit are you going to take, and how do you justify it
The current plan is to take 20% for myself due to the work required to manage an industry-based, market-heavy corporation that doesn't use tech two blueprints to print ISK.
6. What say will I, the shareholder have
When the time comes to begin growing the corporation via the addition of new blueprints and hubs, shareholders may offer input or propose votes as desired. So long as the plan is not clearly un-sound (investing heavily in fifty Heron BPOs, for instance), I will either consider it or enact it (depending on whether it was merely a suggestion or a passed vote).
7. Why should I invest in you opposed to FIN / Something else
The security of the investment has already been stressed, so let me also add that investing in DERTC is investing in the future market of an entire region in empire, a region which has agents worth running and low-security systems worth exploiting, but lacks a sizable market anyway. DERTC isn't just about making money, it's about making money while building something. And that something, is a healthy market, something all carebears enjoy.
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bjone6
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Posted - 2006.12.26 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: bjone6 on 26/12/2006 19:14:45
Reserve me 10 shares at 1 mil ISK. Send me an eve-mail when you want me to transfer the ISK. I'm a newb at all this, so bear with me. Thanks. |
David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.26 23:06:00 -
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Okay, my turn:
1. Where do you plan to get your minerals from?
2. How will you assess mineral costs of ships and mods?
3. What will you do in the event that you don't sell 5b ISK in shares?
4. Being neither Texan nor an anime fan, can you give some more reasons and/or references for your trustworthiness and credibility?
5. Why do you need so much ISK up front? Given the uncertainty of the regio, wouldn't it make sense to a pilot run with only one race's ships/mods and see how things go?
6. What is your exit plan if Derelik can't support your operation? Will you sell off your blueprints and minerals, or will you move to another region?
7. Do you have any plans to sell BPCs?
8. How can investors demand that you liquidate the company, if at all?
9. Are you familiar with the task of running an industrial corporation, and how gruelling it can get?
10. What kind of returns are you expecting per month, and how will dividend payouts work?
If you answer these questions to my satisfaction, I'd be interested in reserving at 500m to 1b in shares (after the 15th of January when I get back home). I'd probably need to have a little chat with you (also after Jan. 15th), if that's okay.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.27 00:06:00 -
[10]
bjone: Your reservation is noted.
David:
1) I plan on getting the minerals by placing buy orders. In my experiences manufacturing in Derelik, the minerals come promptly and at a much more reasonable price than the Sell orders.
2) Goods will not be sold below the cost of the minerals required the highest monthly DERTC buy order price for minerals (which will only become relevant in the case of a major price spike). All builders will have Production Efficiency 5, so only blueprint waste will matter for that.
3) Once two billion ISK in shares are sold, I will be able to chip in the remainder in liquid ISK. I will take the remaining shares (effectively selling my blueprints for 20,000 shares, and "buying" another 10,000 shares) and continue to sell them as buyers come in, and will treat myself like a normal shareholder (but with a compulsion to sell) until all the shares have been sold.
4) Well, for reasons, I would be completely ruining my good name for a few billion ISK. This year I made nearly 1200 posts answering questions in the new player forum, and I continue to edit my guide for science and industry. Actual references I am much lighter on, because my previous corps were either loosely-knit, or I was there to produce personal goods for the 0.0 market, not to produce goods for the corporation.
5) A large chunk of the ISK is going to purchase my battleship BPOs, which will be able to provide a sizeable chunk of profit every month for the corporation. A more limited run would be possible, cutting out the battleship BPOs, but every race's modules are in demand in the region, and the battleships are, as I said, a healthy amount of income for the corporation.
6) This is clearly a hypothetical situation, but if sales were indeed sluggish, the plan would be to trim DERTC hub activity itself, sell off under-performing BPOs, contract out or sell the starbase, and lean more heavily on independent industrialists to push the goal of market development. Excess mineral stock would be relocated to retained hubs or simply sold, depending on current mineral prices.
7) Indeed, both as payment to manufacturers and to capitalize on the starbase.
8) If the cost-cutting measures outlined in #6 were unable to render the corporation profitable, the option of liquidating the corporation would be on the table pending a shareholder vote. So long as the corporation was turning a profit and therefore maintaining value, liquidation is only feasible in the unlikely event of my quitting Eve and being unable to find a successor CEO.
9) I have never actually held such a position in a corporation, but I have experience with the market, and Derelik's in particular. Due to my fondness for working with production and the market and the above-average amount of time I spend with Eve, as well as the incremental ramping up of corporate activities, problems can be addressed as they arise.
10) Due to the sheer volume of goods DERTC will be selling, making sales estimates is very difficult. I can say though that even the most pessimistic sales forecasts have battleship sales alone paying for the starbase fuel. I hesitate to toss out this next number, because I am a pessimist at heart and this shows through in how I calculate things, but... A 1% monthly return on investment probably would not be unlikely, after accounting for only 40% of the profits going to dividends.
For the monthly accounting, buy orders PLACED in a given month and sales actually COMPLETED in a given month will be compared, and the percentages doled out as listed in the second post. Bills such as office bills or broker's fees will count for the month they are paid.
And of course we can have a little chat on the fifteenth. Just don't be too vicious, okay? 
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:08:00 -
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Thank you very much for your answers. I have a few more, unfortunately:
1. What happens if and when you get hit by a bus? Do you have a fallback plan?
2. What happens if and when you get burnt out and decide that you're tired of making money for other extremely demanding people?
3. Do you have any oversight setup (alts with accounting roles, lockdown votes, etc.), and if not, would you be open to having them?
4. At any time in the foreseeable future will anyone except you have the power to transfer shares, unlock/steal BPOs, or power down the POS?
5. How do you plan to use the 40% corporate take to grow the corporation's profitability?
6. Do you have any other characters, mains or otherwise? If so, are you comfortable sharing their identities them with us?
7. Would you be willing to submit to periodic audits?
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.27 18:13:00 -
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1) My real-life friend, while not an Eve player, knows where he can find my password. Should something unfortunate happen to me, one of the things he is to do is "take care of business" for me on Eve, and that would include promoting a new CEO. One of the alts from question #3 would be a good fallback for this role (a temporary measure), though I'll likely end up talking to him so much about the corp he'll know exactly who I would prefer.
2) If I get burnt out running DERTC, I will simply name a successor and move on. A lockdown vote on all corp BPOs would likely end up being implemented as well, since share holders would presumably be uneasy about a new person having access to the BPOs.
3) As I said before, BPOs will not be locked down initially, but can be locked down later once they are placed in their final destination. The battleship BPOs could probably be locked down immediately if the shareholders desired. As for the alts, there are no plans for that, but I would certainly be open to the idea.
4) No, no, no. I am plenty paranoid on behalf of the shareholders.
5) Buying new blueprints of products to sell or expanding to new hubs would likely be the primary usage for improving profitability. Once profitability cannot be expanded any further, the 40% can be rolled into dividends, making a total payout of 80%.
6) The only other character I have is Cut'n Run, my newbie corp alt I used for shopping when I was in 0.0. He's currently running the recruitment thread since I can't stand seeing my name next to bump posts. 
7) Sure, I had already intended on keeping logs of minerals doled out to hubs, items built at said hubs, monthly sales, etc...
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:15:00 -
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Thank you for your time. Your responses have been very helpful. I look forward to the prospect of buying shares in your company.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.29 17:55:00 -
[14]
Do you have any experience running a tech 1 market hub? I ask this because I know both people who have tried (and failed) and people who have succeeded in setting up a tech 1 market hub, and the difference between the two has far more to do with strategy than with seed money.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:33:00 -
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I've worked a major hub (Rens) and a Derelik mini-hub (Yuzier) before, and from what I've experienced the key to succeeding at the tech one module manufacturing aspect (the first step in the DERTC business plan) boils down to deciding what to sell, and keeping the prices competetive.
Once the tech one modules are firmly in place, trading of named modules and tech two modules can begin.
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Shern
Minmatar
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2006.12.30 12:55:00 -
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As a free trader and hauler working out of Sasta, I'm very interested to hear of this project. I'll keep an eye open for you, GC13 and chat with you when you are on the comms channels.
Equally, if you need any help with freelance hauling and suchlike, please let me know.
It's good to see someone helping build up the Mandate and kick-starting the economy.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2006.12.31 18:45:00 -
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Again, I'm glad I'm not the only person excited about the concept of building a proper market for Derelik.
Unfortunately, I've only received revervations for 280 shares (28 million ISK), so I may have to make other arrangements to get the corporation off the ground financially in the meantime.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.31 21:04:00 -
[18]
Well, I'd certainly like a rather large number of shares when I get the chance to be online on a stable connection and feel you out a bit, but I think if you launch a sell order on the forums you'll get some investers who may be interested.
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Proton Power
Amarr
Power Corrupts Trading Inc
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2006.12.31 23:23:00 -
[19]
Not sure what I said before but put me down for 1bil. Probably look into taking 2bil isk worth as well depending on when you open up.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.31 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power
Not sure what I said before but put me down for 1bil. Probably look into taking 2bil isk worth as well depending on when you open up.
Damn it! We JUST finished discussions about a pilot program and he's putting together the official post right now!
Guess I don't need to canvass for another large investor or two now, though.
Put me down for 500m ISK (as we agreed upon). Might as well make it nice and public.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.01 00:13:00 -
[21]
Ha ha. That is rich indeed. I play myself some Counter-Strike to... Well... Get myself good and wound up before dinner, and then I was going to write the announcement, but now I may not need to.
The core of the announcement was going to be this:
I was going to hold on to my battleship BPOs and the starbase was going to be placed on hold in favor of a third party researching new blueprints.
I'm thinking of holding off on the starbase for now anyway, meaning actual transfers of funds and shares can begin as early as tomorrow (think twenty hours from now).
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.01 01:07:00 -
[22]
Well, today has been a great day for the DERTC IPO. With the reservation of an additional 5,000 shares, actual sales can begin immediately. The person who reserved the shares has already paid and been given his shares.
20,330 out of 50,000 shares have been reserved, so there are still 29,670 available.
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2007.01.01 01:15:00 -
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The interesting thing about this is that if you were a successful trader previously, you wouldn't need to come to market for such a measly amount of ISK to get started. I don't think I'll be investing in this venture.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:46:00 -
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Well Burn, I'm sorry you feel that way. Most of my time lately has been spent sitting in 0.0 bored because I don't want to go out and do random PvP and lose ships for no good reason, and not wanting to go rat because ratting is pointless if you don't need the money. I made DERTC because I wanted to do something with a point.
Anyway Proton, you can send the money for the shares any time.
And anyway, unless the investors would be comfortable with a one month grace period for dividends to allow the corp to get into gear, I'm hoping to issue dividends for January on the first of February. Hmmmmm... Should I do the updates in this thread, or in a new thread...?
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:56:00 -
[25]
I still use my original thread. Amongst other advantages, it prevents bumps of older threads from confusing people.
Just remember to edit the original post and the subject line to make sure people realize it's not still an IPO once the shares are sold.
MP
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.12 01:44:00 -
[26]
Well, it's update time.
Things have gotten off to a pretty good start with a nice array of blueprints being put to use, and with the desire to expand the inventory further. Unfortunately though mineral acquisitions are being difficult, as the market supply is less in Jarizza and a good, reliable mining corporation has not been found for low-end minerals, and the stock I sold to the corporation to start it off (at the same prices as the buy orders I had placed up) has run out of tritanium and mexallon.
Proton Power has yet to buy the shares he reserved, despite actually talking with me in a conversation for a few seconds before I mentioned them and wanting to pay for blueprint research... So I'm figuring that the reservation is most likely nulled.
But initial incursions into the market have been friendly, with smaller volumes being made up for by larger margins. A cheap office has been rented to copy blueprints as well.
At the moment I am also holding the un-purchased corporation shares, having paid for them with ISK and my blueprints at adjusted values.
Anyway, once a reliable mining corporation is found, operations will be able to flow more smoothly without the current hiccup manufacturing is experiencing.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.01.12 06:11:00 -
[27]
great idea to do that, derelik had a very crappy market before
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.12 14:13:00 -
[28]
Originally by: GC13
Proton Power has yet to buy the shares he reserved, despite actually talking with me in a conversation for a few seconds before I mentioned them and wanting to pay for blueprint research... So I'm figuring that the reservation is most likely nulled.
I'll remind Proton this afternoon; he probably just got distracted.
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Cerwyn Taraman
Minmatar
Phoenix Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.12 16:55:00 -
[29]
I'd be interested in 1000 shares. Who do I need to send the isk to assuming they are still for sale (that'd be 100m isk if I read it right?).
Thanks,
Cerwyn
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.12 16:57:00 -
[30]
They are indeed for sale. You can send the ISK to me, and I will send you the shares.
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Gylen Syrine
Minmatar
Unified Refining Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.13 08:59:00 -
[31]
I am interested in purchasing 500 shares in this venture. EVE Mail me when your online and we can finalize the transaction. I look forward to investing in your venture here, sounds fascinating and lucrative.
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Virene Mene
Caldari
Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.13 13:29:00 -
[32]
Put me down for 1000 shares :)
I'll be ready to buy when I wake up :P
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He'Kim Gun'Woo
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Posted - 2007.01.14 02:52:00 -
[33]
Edited by: He''Kim Gun''Woo on 14/01/2007 02:48:30
GC13, the isk was sent already.
I would like to purchase 2000 shares
I sent the isk before I purchased since I will be out of town for the next few days. If these shares were unavailable for some reason I would expect a refund.
Cheers
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.15 05:07:00 -
[34]
Okay, I should be caught up with everybody who has sent me money for shares now. Tell me if I somehow missed you, and I've got everything figured out for that.
Anyway, there are 26,730 shares still available for purchase.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.17 08:02:00 -
[35]
Originally by: GC13
Anyway, there are 26,730 shares still available for purchase.
I assume this means you've begun operations, then?
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.17 15:23:00 -
[36]
Yeah, I mentioned that explicitly way back in post #26, actually.
Anyway, we're still having trit problems (I know you still feel bad for me son), but our contracted mining corp says they are indeed working on the situation, and we got enough from our buy order to re-stock our stuff in the in-between time.
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Lunadi
Minmatar
Solar Trade
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:52:00 -
[37]
Hi,
Interested in buying 1000 shares, sent you an email about that. Please confirm so I can send the isk.
Cheers,
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Captain Ferros
Caldari
Expeditionary Fleet 1
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Posted - 2007.01.18 15:39:00 -
[38]
Copy of eve-mail sent to GC13
Please confirm the information by sending it back to me. I will then send the money for the shares.
Buyers Name: Captain Ferros
Sellers Name: GC13
Stock Ticker: DCRTC
Name of Stock: Derelik Trading Company
Number of Shares: 100
Total Cost: 10,000,000
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Admiral Ferros
Administration
Expeditionary Fleet 1
The New Republic
Damn sacks of wet carbon.... |
Auri Hella
The Graduates
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:38:00 -
[39]
Hi, I'm just a beginning investor but your idea seems sound and your backers so far seem to indicate that you know what you're doing. I'd like to buy 500 shares at 50M ISK. Ingame mail will be sent shortly.
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Captain Ferros
Caldari
Expeditionary Fleet 1
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Posted - 2007.01.20 19:45:00 -
[40]
Shares recieved. TYVM
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Admiral Ferros
Administration
Expeditionary Fleet 1
The New Republic
Damn sacks of wet carbon.... |
Shadow Lightbringer
Nightghosts Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.23 16:59:00 -
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Hey GC13,
Good to see you doing well buddy.  I'm sending you a 100m ISK for a 1000 shares. Looking forward to seeing how this does.
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IDINGO
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Posted - 2007.01.25 02:29:00 -
[42]
Edited by: IDINGO on 25/01/2007 02:30:11
Put me down for 300 shares. Where do I send the isk mate?
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Jakarti Espadu
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Posted - 2007.01.25 16:01:00 -
[43]
I would like to purchase 500 shares for 50m isk. I'll send the isk when i get back to a computer with Eve.
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Rimrod
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:07:00 -
[44]
EVEmail sent for verification regarding the availability of 2000 shares. Intriguing idea. Upon reply, ISK shall be sent.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.02.01 01:22:00 -
[45]
Just in case nobody noticed the top post, I am not selling any more of the shares at this time.
Anyway, I do believe I owe all of my investors some money, don't I?
We got off to a rather slow start and we've just started learning some lessons. Still, a dividend of 43,901,687 ISK has been issued, coming out to about a 0.88% ROI in the opening month.
Plans to improve upon the current state of affairs involve producing a few battleships (which haven't been built yet due to difficulties procuring low-end minerals) and increasing the variety of ammunition the corporation can sell. Likewise, for March, I am wanting to set up shop in a second system.
Still, if there are any investors not satisfied with the current state of affairs, I am willing to buy back their shares at their initial selling value. If you are interested in doing this, send me an Evemail but do NOT just send the shares, as I will be unable to verify who sent me the shares otherwise and will NOT pay. You have been warned: send me an Evemail, not the shares.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.01 01:27:00 -
[46]
If you'd like to, you can send an EVEmail to Aknara with your preferred mineral prices. I might be able to help out. I'm pretty good at procuring a decent amount of super-cheap low-end minerals.
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Rache
Solar Trade
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Posted - 2007.02.01 10:36:00 -
[47]
Nice to see your business has started and you are able to pay dividends on the first month. I personally don't mind the ROI for this month. Hope you will unleash your horses and make a big buisness out of it. Good luck.
Rache(aka Lunadi)
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.02.12 19:17:00 -
[48]
Just to update everybody, I haven't been on Eve too much because after I got back from Austin I got sick and so got behind on my school work. After Tuesday everything should be returning back to normal for me, so that's a relief to me, and others I'm sure.
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Tra' Shaz
Gallente
Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.13 13:49:00 -
[49]
RE: Minerals
Offer sent EVE email, please review.
Tra' Shaz
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Weird Alt
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.15 21:02:00 -
[50]
Is this still going through ?
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.02.25 19:56:00 -
[51]
I really don't want to do this, but it has to be done.
Though the DERTC project is full of promise to be profitable, I have been utterly unable to bring any sizeable amount of people into the corporation. Everybody wants 0.0, and DERTC just can't offer that. I could run the corp by myself, but that's just a lonely job and has really killed my enjoyment of the game.
Fortunately the corp never lost any money, so I won't have to pay anything out of pocket to re-purchase everybody's shares. To alert any shareholders who don't read the forum, a vote has been issued with the option to either liquidate the corp and institute a buy back, or for the shareholders to select a new CEO and carry on the project with that.
I had so much hope for this project, but I never anticipated how difficult it would be to attract members to the corporation. I will most likely log onto Eve sparsely for the next few months, and eventually return to 0.0 where everybody else is.
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Lunadi
Minmatar
Solar Trade
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:02:00 -
[52]
It's a shame you did not tell us before about having such problems with people. I'm currently out of involvment & I could give you a hand with the corporation. Maybe some other could too. Well.. too bad you decided that way.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:45:00 -
[53]
I had high hopes for this venture, not because I thought it would be profitable, but because I thought it might do good things for Derelik. I'm sorry that things didn't work out, and that you weren't able to keep your production lines rolling.
I would like it if you would wait and see if there's enough of a community response of people who would be interested in helping out, but I understand that you might have done as much as is reasonably possible, and maybe Derelik simply isn't the place to start a production business at the moment.
Best of luck, I'll hold off on placing a vote for a day or two to give others a chance to voice their opinions.
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Beldaws
Gallente
Just Me and My Alts
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:14:00 -
[54]
As a Derelik resident, I would also like to see you succeed.
I'd be willing to provide whatever help you need to keep going.
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:02:00 -
[55]
Part of the issue is that because of the vacuum in Eve, a real-life creative project has stepped in to fill that void. Anybody genuinely interested can check out my blog where you can be certain I'll keep everybody posted, but the short version is that my friend and I are working on a card game that we intend to sell.
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Dalknor Ithilistar
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:01:00 -
[56]
Looks like the vote closed two days ago with "Liquidate corp" as the winning decision. Any update on if this is what is going to happen and what your plan to accomplish it is?
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GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.03.02 16:59:00 -
[57]
Whoo, that option was even more popular than I thought it would be.
Anyway, the vote botched when I logged on like an hour after it went through, and so was waiting for a downtime. Then I realized that my friend and I would be testing the decks we had assembled on Thursday (he kicked my butt with both decks, by the way).
Anyway, since I can actually see the results now, we can carry on.
Anyway, I guess I'll try to do the bulk of the buyback in two sessions. On Sunday, 0:00 (as in, it's just changed from being Saturday) by the game clock, I'll log on. If you have shares, convo me. I'll most likely tell you to take a number. When I tell you to (and not a MOMENT before), send me your shares, then I'll send you back your 100,000 ISK per share. I will then try to do the same thing at 18:00 the same day (and will post here if that won't work, though it most likely will be fine).
If you can't log on at either of those times, you'll have to evemail me and set a time. Remember, only send the shares AFTER I tell you to, otherwise I can't verify they're yours, and you don't get paid. You've been warned.
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Kasia Pelarar
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Posted - 2007.03.06 21:04:00 -
[58]
Originally by: GC13
If you can't log on at either of those times, you'll have to evemail me and set a time. Remember, only send the shares AFTER I tell you to, otherwise I can't verify they're yours, and you don't get paid. You've been warned.
Both those times were unavailable, so Eve-mail(s) sent, just awaiting an answer.
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Kasia Pelarar
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Posted - 2007.03.11 13:59:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Kasia Pelarar
Originally by: GC13
If you can't log on at either of those times, you'll have to evemail me and set a time. Remember, only send the shares AFTER I tell you to, otherwise I can't verify they're yours, and you don't get paid. You've been warned.
Both those times were unavailable, so Eve-mail(s) sent, just awaiting an answer.
Investment returned, thanks. 
Shares returned.
Thanks.
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