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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:55:03 -
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Buying skill points is something I have to think about, I think its good for bringing up characters.
Just make a limit in the consumption, so say 1 package a year or something, or make it so that you can buy upgrade slots with PLEX and the higher the SP of the char, the more PLEX to invest to up the char with slots for skillupgrades.
Just a question, will char transfers still be possible? I have moved alt spots between multiple accounts every year, its a great way to get your scan alt to a primary slot on a new account (example). Is that still possible?
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:00:26 -
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Alt Pilot1 wrote:This new SP transfer system is brilliant, because it is simply a TRANSFER OF SKILL POINTS from the players who have it, to the players who don't.
Thats a nice summery, in that respect, I think its a good idea, the total POOL of SKILLPOINTS in EVE stays the same, and I like the idea.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:09:47 -
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IBFroggy Sukarala wrote:Pay to win? Great! I`m out!
The skillpool of EVE is not getting bigger, it stays the same, how is this pay to win?
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:16:28 -
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Insidious wrote:plex prices will be 4billion soon : ))))))
As long that the PLEX prices do not show an unhealthy sprint up or down CCP does not matter, they won't interfere. Nothing new, move along people, move along.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:20:35 -
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Murkar Omaristos wrote:I said in an earlier post that this was ridiculous and stupid.
I take that back after reading some of the other posts and thinking further. This could be very good for newer players and player retention.
What's ridiculous about it is that CCP is making this a pay-to-win service by making it available for plex. Limit the number of transfers to like two or three a year, so rich old bittervets and people who just want to buy plex to win can't abuse this, and it'd be fine.
This, just like I said before, give characters 1 slot a year and 1 buyable slot per year for PLEX based on the SP amount on the char, maybe 1 plex per X amount of skillpoints. Then lowend chars can easily grow fast (2 slots a year), and older chars can take a skill sprint when in war or something (1 normal slot, 1 for a lot of PLEX).
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:29:55 -
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Tank Murdock Jnr wrote:Oh. My. Satan.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Whatever happened to choices having consequences? To paraphrase Kirk (in the terrible fifth old-school Star Trek film), if I should have turned left when I turned right, that makes me me. Well, guess what...now you can sell your unfortunate right turns! Better yet, you can sell it to a total clown who'll throw plex at it to become 'leet.
Or is that next?
The general pool of skill points does not change, so, how do you see the roaming off SP by skilled players not as a strategic gameplay thing?
No-one is becoming 'Leet by buying skillpoint, but by learning to fly a ship.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:31:54 -
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Josia wrote:My opinion: NO. What CCP will say when they search this thread: Look 5% say they like the idea. Hooray. Let's do it  .
Just like the PVP arena always gets a higher grade of focus in all expansions?
All other people just have to make due... booh! EVE is so unfair.
Oh wait....
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:33:43 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:This is a **** idea, do not do this
I like your well set out path of thought.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:48:11 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Aaaand they are at it again.. totally disconnected...
They rather add some micro-transaction crap and delete some possibilities than deliver something that makes the game more interesting and worth playing...
Yoohoo!, do you all in here like the people adding this crap to this thread. PLEASE tell us WHY!
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 17:52:04 -
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Skinzee wrote:Skinzee wrote:I have a question for ALL people that say this is a bad idea...
--- WHAT EFFECT WOULD IT HAVE ON YOU AS A PILOT IF THIS WOULD ACTUALLY GO LIVE? ---
There is already an option to buy 0-200m SP characters... Character Bazaar - (Thats Pay2Win if you look at it that way)
Would love someone to actually give me a valid answer to this question. As far as I can see, there is none.
I do... Bitter vets would have more people around them that could fly high end doctrines like they do. Just by roaming off their own SP.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:11:07 -
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Skilo wrote:Malcanis wrote:Skilo wrote:I've been playing this game since 2003
Hey i can stop playing for 1 year and if i decide to return get the euros i saved and buy all the skill points i've "lost"
I wish I could warn you not to give them ideas like that. The point is that it goes against everyhting CCP always said about Pay to Win This is PAY TO WIN You pay you get skills you get better ships and guns you win PAY TO WIN
The skillpool in EVE would not change in size, how is this pay to win?
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:13:12 -
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Samillian wrote:I cannot believe that you have even considered this, you would be better to just turn the servers off and walk away than debase and devalue your game like this.
Please leave, if we loose this attitude in EVE, we have a much better sandbox left, and more people who come in will stick around, that would be awesome.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:23:38 -
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SebN wrote:I never post on these forums but i feel compelled to in this case, i think that this fundamentally breaks the whole beauty of EVE, litterally pay money to buy skill points, whoever actually authorised this idea is so totally out of touch with the player base.
"buy money to buy someone else his / her skillpoints"
Fixed that for you.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:53:33 -
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Tiranius Avetus wrote:So you will sell time (the most valuable resource in EVE) for money.
******** idea...
Nope, they will sell past time already invested in game by others, to people new into the game.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:23:17 -
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Josef Kennet wrote:Skinzee wrote:Vrarrg wrote:No this is a horrible idea, if you are really hurting for money then listen to what we have been saying and get those things done. Instead of trying to make the game P2W or even F2P. There have been several good ideas over the past few years you guys pass up or don't even care about. This is a whole new low for CCP to reach. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS CHANGE WOULD MAKE IT PAY TO WIN? Train over 9000 accounts for a month and sell SP to your main
You cannot, since you need to invest AUR in all those accounts to offroam all SP, probably you will not be @ a surplus.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:24:06 -
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Mastodontti wrote:heh eve online pay2win. eve online will die if you do this
Do you people even read the blog? the skillpool stays the same size, its not pay to win.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:34:54 -
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S'Way wrote:So this is how it ends then ?
Would have hoped there was still someone left from the old days at CCP who could see why this is a terrible idea (for all the reasons already posted by many others).
Himlar is still CEO, get your facts strait. And most negative people did not really read the blog, or thought before penning stuff down.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.15 20:40:22 -
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Soldarius wrote:
- Start new account using buddy program, 3x characters, each with 400k SP.
- Use free PLEX from buddy invite to buy extractors. Lots of them.
- Sell 1.2M SP for 600M isk (using current conversion rate*).
- Recycle characters, generating 3 new ones.
- Repeat steps 3 and 4 until extractors are used.
- Buy more extractors with generated isk.
- Go back to 3.
*A quick check of the character Bazaar shows SP converts to isk at a conservative value of 500 isk/SP.Free infinite isk farming is a go. At least until the market is completely obliterated. Also, one could do this on a single account to funnel SP directly into their main, regardless of the diminishing returns because who cares? Free SP is free. Titans for everyone. PLEX at 500kkkkkkkkkkkkkk. Gallente and Caldari living together. Mass hysteria! lel, I'm reminded of this Charlton Heston clip: https://youtu.be/9IKVj4l5GU4
people do this already
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2015.10.22 02:46:00 -
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Captain Africa wrote:TheSmokingHertog wrote:Skinzee wrote:Skinzee wrote:I have a question for ALL people that say this is a bad idea...
--- WHAT EFFECT WOULD IT HAVE ON YOU AS A PILOT IF THIS WOULD ACTUALLY GO LIVE? ---
There is already an option to buy 0-200m SP characters... Character Bazaar - (Thats Pay2Win if you look at it that way)
Would love someone to actually give me a valid answer to this question. As far as I can see, there is none. I do... Bitter vets would have more people around them that could fly high end doctrines like they do. Just by roaming off their own SP. Lemme throw this right back at you ...I had to wait 6 years to get my character trained up to be 145 mil sp do you think it fair that you would be able to achieve that by just buying sp and whalla ? Infact just **** off...**** that im outta here
Thats not possible, CCP is capping the upwards sprint from each package you add in SP. Did you even read the blog?
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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