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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.28 12:08:00 -
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 Originally by: CherniyVolk
For those who say the curse could just kill the Deimos Drones... that works both ways really.
No due to 2 reasons:
- The curse has +50% hp & damage on it's drones. The deimos doesn't.
- The curse has one set of small drones which are even without the ship bonus better in killing the deimos meds than they are in killing them.
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Agent2 Holtze
Amarr
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.28 12:14:00 -
[32]
Curse 4tw
Posting and you!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.12.28 13:12:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: CherniyVolk
For those who say the curse could just kill the Deimos Drones... that works both ways really.
No due to 2 reasons:
- The curse has +50% hp & damage on it's drones. The deimos doesn't.
- The curse has one set of small drones which are even without the ship bonus better in killing the deimos meds than they are in killing them.
What he said ^
Also, Good luck targetting my drones buddy  3 Damps 4tw 
Alliaanna
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.28 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 28/12/2006 13:40:13
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Aramendel
No due to 2 reasons:
- The curse has +50% hp & damage on it's drones. The deimos doesn't.
- The curse has one set of small drones which are even without the ship bonus better in killing the deimos meds than they are in killing them.
What he said ^
Also, Good luck targetting my drones buddy 3 Damps 4tw
Alliaanna
first point - totally correct
second point - yup me 2 as well as lots of curse pilots since kali. 3 damps and mwd ftfw 
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Semkhet
Saudarkars
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:21:00 -
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Recon 5 + Talisman here. Curse with 3 nos 2 neuts = 128 cap/sec drain. Do your maths 
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Kriva Fajriika
Free Collective
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:22:00 -
[36]
Rail deimos with spike is about the only chance ever of a deimos killing a curse, and even then one disrupter and it wont hit.
Deimos cannot possibly win unless curse pilot is absolutely terrible.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.28 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: ElCoCo on 28/12/2006 17:37:55
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: ElCoCo
You will only win if you pack 2 armor reps.
No sane deimos pilot flies around with no cap injector and you should die quite easily without 2 reppers or at least 1repper and 800mm plate.
But tbh no sane pilot flies the deimos cause it sucks 
Take a look at your ship's slot layout, and tell me how essential that cap injector is. What do you drop for it... MWD? Good luck getting into range. Web? Good luck keeping the Curse from just orbiting at 10km all day. Scram? Good luck actually killing anything when it can just warp off the moment its tank breaks.
No web, 2 webber drones are enough.
I believe this thread talks about 1vs1 and duels. I would assume you'd start at about 20km or so or else there's no reason for the deimos to engage anyway.
You can cover that range in 1-2 mwd bursts to be able to get into firing range. After that, careful timing of the injector will help alot. The curse's drones won't damage too quick enough.
I'm not saying it's a sure win for the deimos, just that's not impossible.
And again, the deimos sucks
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Semkhet
Saudarkars
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Posted - 2006.12.28 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
I believe this thread talks about 1vs1 and duels. I would assume you'd start at about 20km or so or else there's no reason for the deimos to engage anyway.
You can cover that range in 1-2 mwd bursts to be able to get into firing range. After that, careful timing of the injector will help alot. The curse's drones won't damage too quick enough.
I'm not saying it's a sure win for the deimos, just that's not impossible.
And again, the deimos sucks
Nothing is impossible. But a med Electrochemical cap injector cycle = 12 seconds. In 12 seconds I can dry over 1500 cap. Not to speak about two tracking disruptors that will reduce blasters optimal to nothing and render the turret speed completely fubar. Besides blasters don't enjoy the long falloff like AC's.
Then even if webbed, I can web also and still use my AB nonstop. Frankly, unless forced to, a Deimos engaging a Curse would commit a mistake. Heck, even Ashimmu's can win over a Deimos if the fight does not start at point blank range.
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happymappy
Amarr
Finis Lumen
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.29 01:37:00 -
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curse would win hands down nos > cap hungry blaster monster. 
deimos and curse working together owns btw 
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Aberash
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.29 18:57:00 -
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The deimos might win if he gets the curse sat still and uses ECM drones.. as curses arent very good tankers, and 1 successful ecm cycle... but he has about 20secs before his cap is gone so he better be a very good deimos pilot 
but thats very unlikely and tbh curse pwns
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.29 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Soros on 29/12/2006 19:03:12
Yes it is possiable its unlikely if the deimos is lucky he can win and if he has an injector then yes alot more likely, and vs a pilgrim, well i've insta popped a pilgrim in my astarte so a few voleys from a deimos could probally brush off a pilgrim .. Neutron setup deimos id say 1/50
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Aberash
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.29 19:39:00 -
[42]
Well i had a 1on1 with a deimos a few days ago and i wouldve killed him if it wasnt for his mate in an absolution joining in  plus some of my t2 drones had been popped and i had to buy some t1 ones 
Pilgrim 1on1 with a deimos id say the pilgrim should nearly always win
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Buzzmong
Gallente
Raptus Regaliter
Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:30:00 -
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Yeah, curse should win....
unless
the deimos pilot is flying a complete wacky setup and using projectiles, granted, I've got no idea why, as it negates the 3 bonus's on the deimos, but you never know, it IS possible, although a curse could probably tank it.
Although, general practice, as long as the deimos doenst land ontop of the curse, the curse will win hands down.
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:39:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Buzzmong
Yeah, curse should win....
unless
the deimos pilot is flying a complete wacky setup and using projectiles, granted, I've got no idea why, as it negates the 3 bonus's on the deimos, but you never know, it IS possible, although a curse could probably tank it.
Although, general practice, as long as the deimos doenst land ontop of the curse, the curse will win hands down.
Curse comes pre-tanked to projectiles, i doubt it would make a dent.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:18:00 -
[45]
Well, he could use phased plasma.
But I doubt we'll have more than 1 deimos out of 1000 with projectiles (and 1 out of 1000 projectile deimos piloted by someone who knows what he is doing), so this scenario is kinda silly.
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king jks
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:55:00 -
[46]
Thanks for all your replies so far, makes me feel good. But I think the duel will be futile and we'll just have to settle on raping others ;o
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