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king jks
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Posted - 2006.12.27 07:54:00 -
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My corpmate and I are having a friendly debate as to who would win in a duel/fight, I'm training for a curse and will have one around the same time he'll have his deimos. Discuss.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:00:00 -
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Kill the Diemos's drones (or have a plated tank) and it's dead in the water 
If you lose a Curse to a Deimos you shouldn't be flying one.
Alliaanna
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:05:00 -
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If the fight starts on a gate and the deimos has a cap injector... maybe.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Dark Entropy
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:07:00 -
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yes I agree demios would end up loosing.
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Jesus! Hey get back the alliance zealot bpos to the hangars, you homo
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:07:00 -
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Curse, easily, unless one of two things happen:
1) The Deimos starts point blank with full cap. It puts out a LOT of damage, and the Curse's tank isn't all that great. But this is hardly realistic... make the Deimos MWD in through NOS range, and it's cap death followed quickly by ship death.
2) The Deimos fits a cap injector. Again, not really realistic, since that forces it to give up either the web or scram, neither of which it can afford to lose.
Tested this one vs. a corp-mate, though I was flying a Pilgrim. Those blasters HURT, but I had him out of cap before he could get through my armor, and then the drones were easy to tank. A Curse drains considerably more cap, so even with the weaker tank it should have no problem killing the Deimos.
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.27 08:42:00 -
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curse wuld win tbh
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:04:00 -
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Also tracking disruptors would mess up the Deimos' day.
Forsch
Defender of the empire
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Tarnish Katharr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tarnish Katharr on 27/12/2006 11:40:53
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
2) The Deimos fits a cap injector. Again, not really realistic, since that forces it to give up either the web or scram, neither of which it can afford to lose.
Which doesn't help it all that much anyway. You get enough cap for one or two shots and then you're empty again. Good chance a curse will drain a Deimos long before it gets another cycle on its injector. And when you need to reload it, game over.
Originally by: Forsch
Also tracking disruptors would mess up the Deimos' day.
Depends on how many you toss on him and how good his web is. Every curse I've lost so far has been to Blaster Megathrons. They run up into your face and even though you've draining a massive amount of cap out of them, and freezing their guns; they got you sitting still with very high damage weapons hitting you anyway.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:41:00 -
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Curse will win if deimos can stay out of web range (which isn't hard).
Speed + nos + ecm/damp = dead deimos
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Private Iron
Caldari
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:10:00 -
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Curse will rip through the deimos, just tracking disrupt and orbit.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:52:00 -
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+speed +nos +tracking distruptors = dead deimos tbh
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.27 14:13:00 -
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deimos has no chance at all against a curse. if he's not injected his cap does within 12 seconds which means he aint shooting anymore. if he cap injects then he aint webbing or scramming u which again means he loses. besides his tracking is shot so he will hit u but not that well. take out his drones if needed and it's dead in the water. no chance at all.
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Angus McLean
Gallente
Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.12.27 14:42:00 -
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If we think of it in a metaphorical sense, its more like, which wins- NOS or blasters?
NOS > EvE
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Khavi Vetali
Gallente
Team Americas
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.27 14:56:00 -
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Diemos has a chance if he's packing an injector and ecm drones (even then it's sketchy). Otherwise, not really.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:01:00 -
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Deimos doesn't stand a chance really.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:05:00 -
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1 Curse = 2 dead deimos, maybe 3, depends how fast you can multitask.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
1 Curse = 2 dead deimos, maybe 3, depends how fast you can multitask.
and the answer to you sig is very occasionally yes it is 
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flashsplat
Gallente
Fleet Of Elite
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Diemos has a chance if he's packing an injector and ecm drones (even then it's sketchy). Otherwise, not really.
That's actually a pretty good observation.. But ECM drones arn't used to offen and they don't jam very efficiently :( - Not in my experience with them atleast (been on recieving and giving end).
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: flashsplat
Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Diemos has a chance if he's packing an injector and ecm drones (even then it's sketchy). Otherwise, not really.
That's actually a pretty good observation.. But ECM drones arn't used to offen and they don't jam very efficiently :( - Not in my experience with them atleast (been on recieving and giving end).
They jam reasonably well but against a curse which has very high sensor strength standard they don't have much chance and if it's injected then the curse aint webbed so those tracking disrupted blasters aint hitting ****. i agree tho it's an idea 
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Riho
Red Wrath
Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:42:00 -
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curse
5x med nos whit nos bonuses
5 med t2 drones whit drone bonus
sensor daps and other stuff in mids and bit of tank in lows
deimos is out of cap really fast and cant lock or locks REALLY damn slow... or use tracking disruptors and move... he wount hit much
cruse > deimos
and who the hell fits a damn injector on a deimos ? like it hasnt got PG issues enough :P
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.27 16:14:00 -
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You will only win if you pack 2 armor reps.
No sane deimos pilot flies around with no cap injector and you should die quite easily without 2 reppers or at least 1repper and 800mm plate.
But tbh no sane pilot flies the deimos cause it sucks
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.12.27 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
You will only win if you pack 2 armor reps.
No sane deimos pilot flies around with no cap injector and you should die quite easily without 2 reppers or at least 1repper and 800mm plate.
But tbh no sane pilot flies the deimos cause it sucks
don't really see alot of deimos' with a cap injector tbqh and even if you did, it won't help vs 8 med nos and 2 med neuts :/ (recon 5 here, 4 nos 1 neut) and just tracking disrupt the deimos, fly a nanocurse, he won't hit u
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Buraken v2
Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.12.27 17:31:00 -
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a curse would win 100 times out of 100. A deimos could never ever ever beat a curse 1on1
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Tisanta
Amarr
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.27 19:42:00 -
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the anti everything curse=
2 nos 1 neut 2 missile launchers
mwd-2 large sheild enlargers- 2 tracking disruptors- faction disruptor (if you fly a curse you may aswell use one because it makes this ship unbeatable pretty much)
2 pds II, dcu II, cap relay
5 hammerhead II 5 hoby II
with high skills in the right places this will bring down those nos domis and megathrons every time against a deimos.. well the deimos pilot may aswell eject to save the horror of watching their 200mil+ ship exploding from a very slow painful death.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.27 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
You will only win if you pack 2 armor reps.
No sane deimos pilot flies around with no cap injector and you should die quite easily without 2 reppers or at least 1repper and 800mm plate.
But tbh no sane pilot flies the deimos cause it sucks
Take a look at your ship's slot layout, and tell me how essential that cap injector is. What do you drop for it... MWD? Good luck getting into range. Web? Good luck keeping the Curse from just orbiting at 10km all day. Scram? Good luck actually killing anything when it can just warp off the moment its tank breaks.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.27 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: ElCoCo
You will only win if you pack 2 armor reps.
No sane deimos pilot flies around with no cap injector and you should die quite easily without 2 reppers or at least 1repper and 800mm plate.
But tbh no sane pilot flies the deimos cause it sucks
Take a look at your ship's slot layout, and tell me how essential that cap injector is. What do you drop for it... MWD? Good luck getting into range. Web? Good luck keeping the Curse from just orbiting at 10km all day. Scram? Good luck actually killing anything when it can just warp off the moment its tank breaks.
Eve isn't 1vs1 game.
But in 1vs1 engagement vs curse, smart deimos pilot will get away.
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.27 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Exiled One
1 Curse = 2 dead deimos, maybe 3, depends how fast you can multitask.
and the answer to you sig is very occasionally yes it is
DE
Well curse is not really much of an amarr ship, its more of a hybrid between caldari and gallente, fit lasers on it and you are doomed to fail...
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K'ang
Minmatar
Carthum Research
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:48:00 -
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Didn't read all the posts, but my corp mate and me tried this. Against a blaster Deimos (I know, what other kind is there) the Curse sucked his cap dry before he had me into half armour. After that it would have been a painful death for the deimos. The Curse can tank plenty fine vs another cruiser sized ship with all that cap coming in. If you're not in NOS range it can be dicey. But of course you don't uncloak until you are ...
/K'ang.
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CherniyVolk
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2
a curse would win 100 times out of 100. A deimos could never ever ever beat a curse 1on1
This is not true.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: K'ang
Didn't read all the posts, but my corp mate and me tried this. Against a blaster Deimos (I know, what other kind is there) the Curse sucked his cap dry before he had me into half armour. After that it would have been a painful death for the deimos. The Curse can tank plenty fine vs another cruiser sized ship with all that cap coming in. If you're not in NOS range it can be dicey. But of course you don't uncloak until you are ...
/K'ang.
You are talking about the pilgrim. Curse has +32km range on medium nos. Noop.
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