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Nepereta
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Posted - 2003.11.27 23:17:00 -
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Arcadia and Evolultion seem to have an issue with each other at the moment. Beware of travel in Syndicate since you may well get caught in the cross fire.
I don't why this war has started, but a strange demmand echos from both sides. And that is that Evolution wish all Arcadia members(and in some vesrions that includes all neutrals ) to leave for approximately 2 weeks. The reasoning behind the extremely strange terms create all kinds of strange conjecture to which only Evolution know the answer .
If any one knows any more about this topic please share it.( Preferably official comments from invovled parties and combat events that have actually occured). By of course an ingame character instead of an alt.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.27 23:53:00 -
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Seems Evolution has turned into griefers. Or maybe they always were.. Wolfs in sheep clothing.. Anyways, **** em!
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:07:00 -
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Gday sirs.
Yes, a state of war between Arcadia and EVOL exists.
All neutrals are highly adviced to leave the area above 31-mlu and 31-mlu to be safe. No discretion is made. If you are not EVOL, you are a target.
Yes, Evolution actually fights and blows stuff up, have always done. If you wish to call us griefers for that, be my guest.
Arcadia has our deamnds for us to back down, and thats all that will be said on this matter.
Enjoy your day sirs.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:10:00 -
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Uhm, I have respect for Evol, but are you saying you want to lock down portions of Syndicate?
_____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:14:00 -
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So there's really no big difference between Tank CEO and Evol. Except that Tank CEO doesn't deny what he is. Guess that makes him better than Evol.
Come on, spin that record DJ Homo!
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:14:00 -
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Evolution is cool since they are doing what I suggested to them.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:16:00 -
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Move along people nothing to see here
Very few battles, alot of smack talking from stations, one guy said he would come get me IRL, so i gave him my addy, but he said he CBA to come and do it
Oh well
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
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Posted - 2003.11.28 00:30:00 -
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One of evolutions deadliest tactics in taking over a region is delay. They convince people fountain would remain open when they took it to keep from being attacked until they were established. I'd bet this is what they are doing now.
Evolution is Eve's premerier war making corp, they don't just fight with their ships, they have spin control that exceeds the capacitys of any other alliance by a long shot. If they want your land they are prolly going to get it. On the bright side part of talking people out of fighting them means they encourage people to switch sides. You could probably work a deal with them on whole. They are just looking for a fight for a while, they'll prolly live peacefully with you if you share.
Don't get me wrong I don't advocate anyone taking over territory. But I'd be very surpised if the arcaida alliance can resist them. I could be wrong of course and I wish the arcaidia allaice the best.
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Posted - 2003.11.28 01:56:00 -
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Hey molly I know your pretty tight lipped but why don't you put your demands here? The original poster says clearly they don't know why your attacking or what you want. I am sure you have that much of it worked out clearly and can say it without damaging your campain.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.28 02:35:00 -
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The original poster is not Arcadia. Just some corp who got caught in crossfire.
(who stole the edit button???)
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.28 03:22:00 -
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Quote: So there's really no big difference between Tank CEO and Evol. Except that Tank CEO doesn't deny what he is. Guess that makes him better than Evol.
Come on, spin that record DJ Homo!
i dont think that evol are pirates or grievers... i think that they are closing the systems so that they have free access to the ore and everything else in the area without being botherd by n00bs and stupid ppl that dont like them coz of what they are doing, and therefor start attacking and harrasing them...
if evol has the power to kick the alliance out then its not the alliances area, but evols... power is everything....
------------------------------------- Gunni Viziam
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2003.11.28 03:34:00 -
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Very true. Alliance have to earn their territory and defend it.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.28 03:42:00 -
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Quote:
i dont think that evol are pirates or grievers... i think that they are closing the systems so that they have free access to the ore and everything else in the area without being botherd by n00bs and stupid ppl that dont like them coz of what they are doing, and therefor start attacking and harrasing them...
if evol has the power to kick the alliance out then its not the alliances area, but evols... power is everything....
OMG someone gets it. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.11.28 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: Stue on 28/11/2003 04:10:10 The situation is quite simple:
Evolution migrated to Syndicate/Cloud Ring on Tuesday. They attacked one of our guys without a warning. We gathered force and fought back. We now have something like a war with currently obviously noone else involved but Evolution and Arcadia. Everyone else however will still be shot by Evolution.
What i could find out is they are planning a temporary claim on parts of Syndicate and Cloud Ring. They want Arcadia to vacate the area.
What i couldnt find out is what makes Syndicate/Cloud Ring so interesting for them.
Arcadias current stance is that we will defend our home systems. Diplomatic engagements however arent excluded.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.28 06:51:00 -
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I would spin the wheel, but I'm not on the air, and, there's no need.
I can own your entire family by stating simple facts.
Evolution are not griefers, or pirates. Anyone who says otherwise is one, or several of the following:
1) ignorant of the definition of the words 'griefer' and 'pirate'
2) trying to create misinformation
3) plain stupid |
Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.28 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Rebellion on 28/11/2003 07:29:02 This situation diverges a little from our usual encounters. Whereas we have been exclusively fighting those we hunt for the longest time, Arcadia happens to not be one of our prey.
We came into the region without any intent other than to temporarily settle in one system. One.
However, some people from Arcadia seem to have become paranoid at the prospect of having us temporarily around them. Perhaps they suspected that, as we are without a region to call home, we came into their space to take it away from them. We had no such intentions. However, due to their suspicions driving the reason behind their reactions, their efforts to avoid a big conflict with Evolution is leading up to exactly that.
I personally do not see how anyone except pirates would be paranoid at having us for temporary neighbors. If you don't mess with us, we don't mess with you. Furthermore, not to brag, but I would think that once our prescence in a region becomes known, the usual bandits pick up their bags and move somewhere else.
Perhaps this is the effect of the propaganda spewed forth from the mouths of our foes. We have no problems with those we know believing the lies, but it seems that those we don't know end up not knowing what exactly to expect.
We have been at the receiving end of a lot of verbal hostility from Arcadia which I believe is unwarranted as we hardly even spoke to them prior to this. Our patience wears thin by the day.
We wanted one system, we were opposed with much verbal venom. Now we have decided that contact between arcadia and us is untenable and their only option is to stay away from us for two weeks. If even this is met with discourtesy then they will be, of their own volition, contributing to the widening gyre that will result in great loss.
Possession of one system for two - perhaps even one - week is hardly grounds for anyone to be affronted. Now due to the reactions we have received, we see the need to take posession of several more systems as a buffer region and recompense. Aquiescence to our terms is the only way to return to a peaceful status-quo, prolonged resistance is not an advantageous option for Arcadia.
By the way, advance apologies to third parties, but you have been forewarned so do stay away.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.28 07:16:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Stue on 28/11/2003 04:10:10 The situation is quite simple:
Evolution migrated to Syndicate/Cloud Ring on Tuesday. They attacked one of our guys without a warning.
Blatant LIE. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.11.28 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Stue on 28/11/2003 07:53:51 Rebellion:
You are creating misinformation. It was not Arcadia who initiated this conflict.
Arcadia didnt react in a paranoid manner at all. As i stated before, all we did was to defend ourselves. And in no way did Evolution announce their plans for Syndicate/Cloud Ring before the first shot was fired by Evolution. Try not to deny the facts. If you want chatlogs as a prove i can deliver them.
Also i see where this is going. I can now clearly see the link. Arcadia has been accused of cooperation with TLBC before and we managed to deal with it. Now you are using this against us in your campaign in Syndicate. But my speculations about this were leading much further than that, i can assure you.
For those who want to get some background on this matter, here are two links: Need explanation from Fountain Alliance! Need explanation from the Arcadian Alliance
Quote: I personally do not see how anyone except pirates would be paranoid at having us for temporary neighbors. If you don't mess with us, we don't mess with you.
This slightly contradicts to your policy to vacate your wanna-be claim from everybody that is not evolution, doesnt it? Again i have chatlogs to prove it.
What has become of Evolution? I once had respect for you. This has changed with your very post.
I dont know if you are a representative for your corporation. Until i hear these words from a person who officially represents Evolution, everything you posted above will not be taken serious and your pathetic attempt to fight a PR war against a young alliance is totally void to my ears.
I now leave this thread for further speculations.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.28 07:51:00 -
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Rebellion does represent Evolution, we however do not represent FA. |
sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.28 08:03:00 -
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Yeah, just to make that clear, we are no longer part of the FA or represent them.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.28 08:10:00 -
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You guys sure do hit the headlines every day, dont you? __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.28 08:17:00 -
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Stue perhaps you would like to give us a run-down of what happened for those of us who dont know
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Flatliner
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Posted - 2003.11.28 09:02:00 -
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Lies all lies.
There is no Evo in Syndicate region.
It is funny tho, people now believe we are there in mass numbers.
Have a nice day.
Flatliner.
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Redan Chulipa
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Posted - 2003.11.28 09:46:00 -
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Why not take out the dictatorship of the Outer Ring?
They hold but one system and pride themselves in being pigheaded, it'd be a grand fight!
There's much bistot to be had and apart from the entrance to Fountain there is only two systems to control, which the ORS have failed to do. Regular visits by M0o is another treat. Make and old man happy.
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Methos
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Posted - 2003.11.28 10:06:00 -
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Diplomecy at the end of a gun is not diplomecy at all. You used to have credability but, I am fairly certain that is no longer the case. From a third persons perspective you have become a roving band of miscreants. You should rember that might does not always make right. People have long memories and if Evo steps on enough toes they will have no safe haven later. I would think that and it seems rightfully so at this point that if I saw an Evo member that I shouldnt waste time asking what they were doing there I should just shoot before they shoot. This bogus crap about the ocean and such what not is old. If your going to wander around and pick fights where ever your going then why not just admit to that and be done with it. Trick me once, shame on me, tricke me twice shame on you. I really doubt that anyone is going to belive your not warmongering if this trend should keep. Just my 2 isk worth. Enjoy the game I know I am.
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ARISTOTLE |
Dukath
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Posted - 2003.11.28 10:18:00 -
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Quote: I would think that and it seems rightfully so at this point that if I saw an Evo member that I shouldnt waste time asking what they were doing there I should just shoot before they shoot.
See this is where you make the first mistake. If you ignore him or simply get out of your way then most likely nothing will happen, if you shoot one of us then retribution will be swift and painful.
I don't know what happened to lead to this situation since i was happily (ooc) installing a new HD and spending a very fun day reinstalling/patching my operating systems and all my software, thank you very much broken HD (end of ooc)
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.28 10:40:00 -
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Quote: I would spin the wheel, but I'm not on the air, and, there's no need.
I can own your entire family by stating simple facts.
Evolution are not griefers, or pirates. Anyone who says otherwise is one, or several of the following:
1) ignorant of the definition of the words 'griefer' and 'pirate'
2) trying to create misinformation
3) plain stupid
Yes you do continue flapping your big mouth on the forums, while the actions ingame of Evol lately obviously do not match your words.
About owning: You own nothing, you couldnt even own a squirrel. Instead of snapping it's neck and roasting it on the fire like a man, you gave it food like the fairy that you are.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.11.28 10:45:00 -
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Griefer = someone whose sole purpose is to ruin the game-experience for someone else, for his own enjoyment Pirate = Someone who holds people up for money/modules or other benefits PropanElgen = Someone who got owned
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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The Monk
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Posted - 2003.11.28 11:15:00 -
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evo were originaly greifers in the first place i guess they are returning to their roots so to speak. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Nepereta
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Posted - 2003.11.28 11:46:00 -
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As part of a corp that has lost a bs at there hands I would like to say they are not Greifers per se. They tend to be polite and well mannered it is just unfortunate that the last 'free' area in 0.0 is for all intents and purposes is being locked down to all neutral parties.
I will give them this though they have a big tendency towards the inscrutable and engimatic. I just wish both parties would recognise specific named neutrals ( such as The Knights of Nhi and Spaced Cowboys) and leave them alone.
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