Originally by: Montaire

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OMG I thought they were joking about the Mining Moros.

Originally by: Butter Dog

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The mining Moros was just... lol

I'm almost pleased you killed it, tbh.

As for the POS.. only God knows why they chose to unanchor it with no force protection.

I'm probably not supposed to say that on here, but you DO deserve credit for capitalising on the opportunity.

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Originally by: Smoking Mirror

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That's a whole lot of chest-thumping from a gang who have spent the last few weeks watching their assets and space shrink, mostly while hiding in POS's. Even now IAC is down a station, not to mention many POS's and a few capital ships of their own.

Do you really want a tally of the cost to IAC of this insane invasion of theirs? ButterDog is still in Tyrrax's former office at the Bottleshop with his boots up on the desk, drinking port and smoking a cigar. Nyphur is fitting his new dreadnought from the comfort of DHB Foofighter's quarters. How much is that worth?

By the way, it was funny to see an IAC diplomat poking her head into the Market Discussions forum. It was as if IAC leadership had never grasped what was going on in there. Judging by the pathetic whines about "market pvp", it does seem as if IAC leadership is absurdly naive about a whole lot of alliance level issues, including market fundamentals.

IAC will never be allowed to win this war. Make your deal while you can, or face the slow strangulation of what's left of your alliance.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: shanda captison

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Nice to see your back foo what was with visiting the north the other day? Was the south getting too much for you?!

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Yes I'd be interested to hear more about the IAC trip up North... how many ISS did you kill again up in Pure Blind?

I believe its in single digits, and possibly even starts with a 'z'... In the meantime your carebears where dying by the dozen in your home constellation - great tactic

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican

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ISS stated in like two different threads that they are no longer neutral, they only serve their shareholders (as it should be) and they are in no way influenced by the political atmosphere. I remember being corrected by ISS that they are still neutral until later others stated otherwise to the contradiction.

Both sides can only spin a story so far before someone or others contradict something.

I'm sorta confused in this.

Hell in one post Butter Dog states that they own nothing and see what the "share-holders" do when you seriously threaten their outposts.

Well ok Butter. Isn't it ISS'es duty to protect said assets? I mean if I was a shareholder I would be dishing alittle money out to help said defense cause.

To simply say that ISS doesnt care (which I sorta get that from that post) would shake my belief as a shareholder in ISS competence in the Business handling of my paid for assets.

Everyone knows (or knew) that investments into ISS projects were a sure bet money maker. Its also known that ISS makes excellent money on said projects as well. Now if it comes down to me pitching money in every week or so in defending my paid for assets, or even spending a bil here or there for mercs, I would start questioning my belief in my future projects. Hell I may even look into selling my shares and possibly cut my loses before they do become losses. Isn't it ISS'es job to protect the assets by any means necessary. Can I get a link to the new ISS Chater so I can re-educate myself?

But this war is still early, and I honestly dont know what a single share in ISS outpost in Catch fetches before and after the war. But I garentee there is probably a couple of shareholders ****ed right now on how things are looking. Then again I been wrong before...

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Well, lets see.

1) IAC declare ISS -10 on the back of some very strange reasons (market pvp, lol)
2) IAC refuse to rule out taking ISS outposts
3) IAC lose the F4 outpost in response
4) The fight is now over the F4 outpost, not shareholder-funded outposts

So I'd say that ISS have done a pretty good job of pro-actively protecting shareholder assets.

And of course, if shareholder assets are directly threatened ISS would actively protect them. Just don't be suprised if the shareholder alliances turn up too.

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Originally by: Press Officer

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Edited by: Press Officer on 29/12/2006 14:42:54

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Lets see how the next couple weeks play out, and if we succeed in taking f4 back and start looking towards ZXIC, lets see what truely happens

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Still nice to see the IAC and the Priory "omfgI'vemovedawayfromjumprangegatecampboys" still rattling on about "cough" the IAC started the war but my mom made me do it, aint we the victims.

Facts ...

1) You started the war ...
2) You failed to exclude taking "publically own stations" by force
3) You were given "numerous chances" of coming to a peacefull conclusion but decided to camp KDF/ZX
4) You lost F4

Now lets stop the waffle waffle waffle but as half of your members and leadership have already stated the above your going to look even more pathetic denying it ...

I personally think the ISS + Friends should have gone all the way and removed every system you owned ... remember for the thick and stupid .. you were the aggressor ....

So stop moaning, get round the table or I'm sure you will lose everything next time ......

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Originally by: Press Officer

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Bitter much?

We must have killed you quite a few times to receive so much attention. Too bad it's only from an alt. Get some balls plz

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Not at all ..... but the "omgIattackedtheissbutpleasecomeandhelpmemommy" is funny

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Originally by: Press Officer

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Like you and facts ... it make perfeect sense in my mind

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Edited by: Butter Dog on 29/12/2006 15:08:35

Originally by: Gutsani

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Hiring Mercs is not in ISS's bussiness model .. you need glasses. Let me quote it:

Build Phase
Security measures include:
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- Large professional mercinary force employed for launch and defence of CONSTRUCTION PLATFORM.
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Docking policy
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> Accepting Mercenary contracts against the ISS
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now go claim hiring a mercenary force to take over an outpost is good for your reputation and mentioned in your charter and an act of defence (if it was, it had to be VOTED and PAYED by your shareholders, read your charter baby, oh yeah!) and whatever more idioticry you can come up with.

I told you yesterday, just go back to your cave ...

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You are clueless.

It IS policy to hire mercs, we can afford it easily with private finance, we will continue to do so, and no-one in ISS really cares what you or anyone else thinks about it.

I must say though, I've never heard anyone start a war and then whine and cry so much about how the party you wardec react to it. I'm so sorry if we didn't give you a war on your terms

We'll react however we like, and your opinion of how we react is of no consequence. But please, do carry on posting like we care.

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Originally by: Royaldo

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i dunno who is more annoying, that press officer, butter dog or miss overkill..

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Calisto Cody

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i used to like ISS, BD changed that ^^

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You're an alt, no-one cares.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Of course there are quite a few things I could mention about MC, which won't do wonders for their reputation, but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know.

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There has been nothing even semi-professional about your conduct on these forums. If you were professional enough to keep your mouth shut, you would keep your mouth shut and let your leaders do the talking. As for what you'd like to mention about MC, I strongly suggest you stick to smacking IAC and leave us out of this.

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Recommend you do the same. Lets just say my personal opinion of MC isnt what it once was, and leave it at that.

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If there was something about our performance on this contract that did not meet your standards... we do not care. You didn't sign our paycheck. We came, we did the job we were paid to do, and then some. The man who signed our paycheck has no complaints. Now we are leaving.

Let that be the end of it.

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Originally by: Traxio Nacho

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From what i've actually brought myself to read on the forums over the last week has been outright insulting let alone what you wrote in local, think you actually became the first ally i've had to block and i've been in a local with fatballs

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Originally by: Sergio Ling

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So basically


Butterdog is saying that the MC suck ISS would fail without them and he's joining The Priory? and that's an official press release taken from one of these characters BD has, Mr Count T

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Originally by: Press Officer

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He wont be joining The Priory, end of story.

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Not unless he trains up "gatecampinlevel5shootthenoobshuttle"

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Originally by: Press Officer

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Guess again

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Originally by: Traxio Nacho

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[ 2006.12.29 20:22:33 ] DHB FooFighter > [20:20:51] Butter Dog > ISS would **** themselves, I have access to characters with outpost sov config rights in KDF, ZX, C3, F4, plus the ISSO wallet and ISSN wallet.... but i'm not nasty enough to do 'the deed'

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Either DHB Foofighter made this up himself and posted it in the channel I am in with him or you are blantly lying?

Mr Foo please could you confirm if you or someone else made this up or Butter Dog wrote this in a channel himself and you then posted it in the channel?

PS: maGz pretty sure Press Officer is BD (I could be wrong)

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Originally by: Phoenus

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You gank people 5 on 1, but when the MC does the same to you, you throw your toys out the pram.

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Originally by: nickky01

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i can't believe nobodys flaming BD because he has a madonna CD on his desktop?


i win the thread again \o/

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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\o/

Told you I wasnt lying :p

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I'll admit that I underestimated you..

Anyways this seems like a happy ending.. I like happy endings.

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Yes he was though, about everything else regarding MC, save for the fact that we didn't want to engage AAA at that paticular moment, which we happily admited several dozen pages ago.

Come on, you can't let the guy go because the one thing both sides agreed on actually turned out in a startling revelation to be true? I'd like to hear some more about the MC didn't have client thing for one, since thats by far his biggest claim (to us) thus far in the thread, and he hasn't done a thing to support it other then saying he knows a guy who knows a guy...

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Lorth

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Edited by: Lorth on 30/12/2006 22:23:43

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Can't let this pass.. I havent LIED about anything, I've told the truth as I understand it. Nothing has been said without a basis in evidence and reason, whether you agree with the evidence or reasoning is another matter.

There is nothing more that I can do, other than that. Now, everyone knows Nez is the best judge of these thread, and MC officially lose the thread :)

I've provided my proof. If you want to get anywhere, you need to provide yours. Of course you wont 'employer anonimity' prevents it.

lol @ you

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Yes you have though.

You said at one time you stayed in empire the whole time. You lied about that.

You lied about the contract details. Or you randomly changed your story from page 2.

You lied about the MC POS in F4, or simply didn't know.

Your lying about MC's invlovment in the war, or are to silly to know other wise.

Your either lying, or simply without a clue in regards to the MC vs AAA thing.

You stated two differant versions of what MC were hired to do. Care to clearify which post you were lying in?

You claim to know that MC didn't have a client against IAC the first time, yet have offered not a shread of evidence for it.

You lied, or are grossly missinformed about capital ship numbers durng the POS seiges.

Care to continue with more of the stuff you lied about, or were so grossly out of the loop that you didn't have a clue about and simply made up your own story to go with your forum spammage?

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for the love of God, give it up

You lost the thread.

I won it.

Goodbye.

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Answer the claims then.

I'll also add that you were lying about the reason you left ISS. Since you claim it was because of the MC, yet we were no longer working for them, there must have been anouther reason, so what was it?

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Originally by: Goodtime Girl

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As a observer of this thread i think all the points have been made and its going round in circles,
ISS command are now proven to be liars in my opinion which makes me believe all the statements they have made in the past have been untruthful

MC- all thats happened here is that they have not come out of this smelling of Roses

ive never fully trusted what ISS have to say but the proven lie has added more credibility to IAC's past statements
If i had shares in ISS i would be selling them right now for what ever i can get.

these are just the thoughts of a observer after reading through all the posts.

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Not a very neutral one .........

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