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celous Caldari Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:58:00 - [421]
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:03:00 - [422] Originally by: Sergio Ling FACT - You said Count told you posting was fine. HE has called BS on that FACT - You said MC were scared of AAA and havent yet backed that up FACT - You said you were leaving ISS and yet it comes to light that maybe you were kicked FACT - You said you knew when to keep your mouth shut due to professionalism, and you obviously can't. And so on and so forth Lets deal with these points one at a time. * Count told me he liked me posting on Eve-O because he said it 'gave ISS a voice' and everyone knew I didnt officially represent the alliance. As I wasnt warned, kicked etc for making the posts, its pretty easy to draw your own conclusions there. * The AAA issue has been crystal clear from the start - MC refused to engage them for any price, they have even admitted they refused to engage them so what part of this is troubling you exactly? * I removed my roles and made a forum post on the ISS internal forum stating that I was leaving, 12 hours BEFORE Count said he was kicking me. Why he said this I have no idea. Obviously I knew that when I started a forum tussle with MC, he would not want me under the ISS flag so I announced my departure before doing so. * The last point can't be construed as a fact, its simply your opinion. Anything else? ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:03:00 - [423] Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Butter Dog but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know. i can't imagine that's true
Philip Jones Gallente Bridgeburners 9TH Squad	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:04:00 - [424] Wow, who would have thought this FORUM was better than the actual game. Its like playig some mad text based adventure game from the 1980s. MOVE NORTH, GO WEST, A FORUM WARRIOR HAS JUMPED ON YOU OMGWTFPUA! START AGAIN [Y] / [N]
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:06:00 - [425]
TrishTheDish	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:09:00 - [426] Originally by: Philip Jones Wow, who would have thought this FORUM was better than the actual game. Its like playig some mad text based adventure game from the 1980s. MOVE NORTH, GO WEST, A FORUM WARRIOR HAS JUMPED ON YOU OMGWTFPUA! START AGAIN [Y] / [N] QFT Where is the need to log in when you got this kind of class A things going on? CCP better start making patches for the forum isntead of the game =D
Emsigma Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:12:00 - [427] Originally by: Philip Jones Wow, who would have thought this FORUM was better than the actual game. Its like playig some mad text based adventure game from the 1980s. MOVE NORTH, GO WEST, A FORUM WARRIOR HAS JUMPED ON YOU OMGWTFPUA! START AGAIN [Y] / [N] QFT Where is the need to log in when you got this kind of class A things going on? CCP better start making patches for the forum isntead of the game =D ---
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:14:00 - [428] Originally by: Avon This thread is comedy gold, seriously. "M.C. pick easy fights over hard fights!" Ummm...and? When the easy money is there to be made, you don't reject it in favour of something harder or more challenging, you grab it while it is there ... you don't know when easy money will next be there for the taking. It is the easy money that keeps the wheels oiled. "M.C. bring overwhelming forces because they hate losses." Well..duh! That's kinda the point of being a merc, isn't it? To mitigate your losses to maximise your profits. It may be all noble to bring swords to a sword fight, but you are much more likely to win without getting hurt if you bring a machinegun. I know which option I would choose. Congratulations on missing the point. This is about the difference between the perception (spin) MC but out about themselves and the reality. The perception is no job is too tough. The reality is they shy away from true challenges. Would you still be in BoB if your leaders announced the latest war: To kill the curry alliance, population one 1!1!!!! It's hardly pushing the pvp envelope is it? BoB talk big, spin hard but they produce big results. MC talk big, spin hard, accept easy jobs... The perception is that they are always up for a fight (within reason ofc). The reality is they will do everything in their power to make sure they have numerical superiority everytime. Bust up a small camp? Bring battleships AND the appropriate EW (just in case). Roaming gank squad come into your local? Hug the POS and deploy fighters? Smart? Undoubtedly. Does it fit with the gung ho balls to the wall self-portrayal on the forums? No. The day MC start portraying themselves as risk adverse pvpr's who do a risk analysis and have scouts in every neighbouring system before deciding to engage is the day they will gain my undieing respect (as if they care). Until then it's all smoke, mirrors and a well oiled PR machine.
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:23:00 - [429] SpiralJunkie just told me they are gonna make a new series about this. Not much information is available yet, however our spies were able to gather a shot behind the scenes. Spycam ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:25:00 - [430] Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Butter Dog Lets deal with these points one at a time. * Count told me he liked me posting on Eve-O because he said it 'gave ISS a voice' and everyone knew I didnt officially represent the alliance. As I wasnt warned, kicked etc for making the posts, its pretty easy to draw your own conclusions there. Count said in his post a page or so back, that he told you not to post Originally by: Butter Dog * The AAA issue has been crystal clear from the start - MC refused to engage them for any price, they have even admitted they refused to engage them so what part of this is troubling you exactly? Where does Seleene say this? Originally by: Butter Dog * I removed my roles and made a forum post on the ISS internal forum stating that I was leaving, 12 hours BEFORE Count said he was kicking me. Why he said this I have no idea. Obviously I knew that when I started a forum tussle with MC, he would not want me under the ISS flag so I announced my departure before doing so. CT says he's kicking you, you're kicked. I take his word over yours Originally by: Butter Dog * The last point can't be construed as a fact, its simply your opinion. Well, you said somewhere around page 6 that you're professional enough to keep your mouth shut, yet all you've done is post post post Read back in the thread and you will see plenty of MC people talking about the reasons they refused to engage AAA. This point is well covered, even MC arent daring to bring it up anymore but if you want to carry on flogging a dead horse be my guest. As for me leaving, there is a post in the ISSN forum, which all ISSN members over a certain rank have access to, stating that I have removed my roles and will be leaving of my own accord as I refuse to work with MC. Perhaps someone with access to that forum will be kind enough to confirm that for you. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Tiuwaz Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:27:00 - [431] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 30/12/2006 16:28:02 Originally by: Butter Dog As for me leaving, there is a post in the ISSN forum, which all ISSN members over a certain rank have access to, stating that I have removed my roles and will be leaving of my own accord as I refuse to work with MC. Perhaps someone with access to that forum will be kind enough to confirm that for you. confirmed ___________________________________
Ice Breaker Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:28:00 - [432] Edited by: Ice Breaker on 30/12/2006 16:28:28 Edit: nevermind. In Rust We Trust
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:38:00 - [433] Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 30/12/2006 16:28:02 Originally by: Butter Dog As for me leaving, there is a post in the ISSN forum, which all ISSN members over a certain rank have access to, stating that I have removed my roles and will be leaving of my own accord as I refuse to work with MC. Perhaps someone with access to that forum will be kind enough to confirm that for you. confirmed YOU DID NOT WIN THE THREAD
DrDevice The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:41:00 - [434] because at times like these, my butterdog corpse just might sell, I have it up for auction in jita for the next week :) buy buy buy
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:47:00 - [435] Originally by: Karunel Man this thread does deliver! http://www.thottbot.com/?qu=157 - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:54:00 - [436] I'm just wondering if BD is going to keep accusing Count indirectly of being a liar, or if your willing to appoligise? You've already been shown to be a liar your self on a couple occasions in this thread, Butter Dog, so your on very shaky ground to be doing so to others, even if your subtle about it.
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:55:00 - [437] Woo the Cool Kids thread and now i am in it. Humm, wonders if DBP could make this thread even better. With love from Al Haquis
Ice Breaker Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:57:00 - [438] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them. If you think that's scary, you should hear him actually singing this on TS after a node crash... Ice. In Rust We Trust
Antion Gallente ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:59:00 - [439] Originally by: Butter Dog As for me leaving, there is a post in the ISSN forum, which all ISSN members over a certain rank have access to, stating that I have removed my roles and will be leaving of my own accord as I refuse to work with MC. Perhaps someone with access to that forum will be kind enough to confirm that for you. Consider this Confirmed, posted Dec 29 at 10:24 pm eve time. Originally by: Butter Dog anyway, don't worry... MC have ****** me right off (sent me a quite abusive email which was uncalled for), and as I don't wish to damage ISS relationship with them I have removed all my roles and will be leaving in 24 hours NOTE! This does not represent ISSN, or ISS. Captain, ISSN
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:10:00 - [440] Originally by: Lorth I'm just wondering if BD is going to keep accusing Count indirectly of being a liar, or if your willing to appoligise? You've already been shown to be a liar your self on a couple occasions in this thread, Butter Dog, so your on very shaky ground to be doing so to others, even if your subtle about it. I have precisely nothing to apologise for. See the proof just posted by a member of ISSN - I wasnt kicked, I announced my leaving to ISSN 12 hours before Count said anything about it. I havent actively accused Count of lying, I have presented some key facts, copied and pasted a PM he sent me. Its up to him if he chooses to lie about it or not. That is out of my hands now. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Shinjuro The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:12:00 - [441] ZOMB11levntywtf@thisthread!!11!! I go to bed late last night with a sense that I have contributed to the BD's finally *****ing. I come back to 9 more pages of this thread??!! BD, is your hand falling off from typing yet?? Give it a rest man. Your opinion is obvious. To all the MC/banned forum warriors/not yet banned forum warriors: Fun chat last night.
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:12:00 - [442] Originally by: Butter Dog Here is a PM you sent me on the ISS forum - I have a screenshot which I will publish if you deny you wrote it. "Thanks, BD. I am immensely disappointed and I'm not afraid to admit that I think Sel and Ens are being cowards about it. Ens: ok he has a lot to lose, the titan, BUT: AAA will come after LV sooner or later anyway. He's just postponing the inevitable. Sel: well, he just showed what he is made of. No money could have made him do it. There is a good quote by Macchiavelli on mercenary captains that I'll dig up later." I don't know if Count T would deny this, but as a point of curiosity could you load the screenshot up anyway? I'm not related to what's going on but it would add a lot of credibility to what you're saying if you provided you know, actual evidence of that sort.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:16:00 - [443] Originally by: Admiral Feelgood I don't know if Count T would deny this, but as a point of curiosity could you load the screenshot up anyway? I'm not related to what's going on but it would add a lot of credibility to what you're saying if you provided you know, actual evidence of that sort. If he denies it, I will. Along with a number of other screenshots of PM's and forum posts I have - but this isnt about me disliking ISS or Count, I don't. So I don't wish to go too far down that path. I only brought it up because of his post about me, which was uncalled for. Count knows why I was annoyed with MC, he knows they sent me a downright rude evemail telling me to 'STFU', so why he had to say anything about it at all I'm not sure. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:26:00 - [444] the problem at this stage is that allegations have been made, and proof has been offered. But in the age of html, photoshop and internets, what proof can be offered that cant be called into question? _ Welcome to Rancho Zoidberg
Kespii Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:29:00 - [445] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Count TaSessine We are ready to enter peace talks with IAC. They have chosen Tyrrax as their spokesperson to us and we have talked to him, not with good results so far, admittedly, but we keep trying. We have now worked out several possible solutions to the problem which we will present to them. Stay tuned and fingers crossed for a good result. War is bad for business. Count their will be no Peace between us. Ever. ISS will not be suffered to live any longer. The simple fact is, you must depend on mercs to do your dirty work, wheras we depend upon our friends, friends made in combat. Case in point, look at who KIA has been hired against by persons unknown. It's not to much to see the same happening to the rest of your "shock troops". and as to the rest of the "stuff" in this thread. Trax - stop posting my chat logs BD- I <3 you. Sel - respect to you and your alliance, and as for adrenaline rushes, divebombing a nyx to keep a pvp timer on it while avoiding 23 t2 drones is hellafun. AAA - I <3 you more than BD! much drunkin russian war songs to be sung! Damn, i go to sleep for once and look what happens. You sure as hell don't get this stuff out of a FPS. Well, atleast we know that IAC planned to take over all of ISS space. You have balls to want to continue the war even though you have lost f4. If no peace agreement can be agreed on, then it's proof that IAC wanted all of ISS space to begin with.
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:29:00 - [446] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Istvaan pulls on a fine cigar Time for phase two. You hear that? that's the sound of 10,000 tinfoil pants being soiled. Don't you just love the smell of paranoia in the morning?
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:31:00 - [447] Originally by: Sergio Ling the problem at this stage is that allegations have been made, and proof has been offered. But in the age of html, photoshop and internets, what proof can be offered that cant be called into question? Look, seriously, give up. You lost the thread about 6 pages ago. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:33:00 - [448] i'm not competing _ Welcome to Rancho Zoidberg
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:34:00 - [449] Originally by: Kespii Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Count TaSessine We are ready to enter peace talks with IAC. They have chosen Tyrrax as their spokesperson to us and we have talked to him, not with good results so far, admittedly, but we keep trying. We have now worked out several possible solutions to the problem which we will present to them. Stay tuned and fingers crossed for a good result. War is bad for business. Count their will be no Peace between us. Ever. ISS will not be suffered to live any longer. The simple fact is, you must depend on mercs to do your dirty work, wheras we depend upon our friends, friends made in combat. Case in point, look at who KIA has been hired against by persons unknown. It's not to much to see the same happening to the rest of your "shock troops". and as to the rest of the "stuff" in this thread. Trax - stop posting my chat logs BD- I <3 you. Sel - respect to you and your alliance, and as for adrenaline rushes, divebombing a nyx to keep a pvp timer on it while avoiding 23 t2 drones is hellafun. AAA - I <3 you more than BD! much drunkin russian war songs to be sung! Damn, i go to sleep for once and look what happens. You sure as hell don't get this stuff out of a FPS. Well, atleast we know that IAC planned to take over all of ISS space. You have balls to want to continue the war even though you have lost f4. If no peace agreement can be agreed on, then it's proof that IAC wanted all of ISS space to begin with. No. Its not. They took our space. Sorry if we can't be buddy buddy with people who steal one of our stations. --------------------------------------------
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:36:00 - [450] Butter, just because you announced in that forum that you were pulling your roles doesn't mean you were not being kicked. It just means you pulled your roles before I could get to you . As for the rest of your posts, you have not got access to the management group, ISSN Command, or the War room.

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