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Ghoest	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:21:00 - [1] It used to be when the devs talked or CCP made a release it was almost something I was intrested in. Now a lot of attention seems to be elements periferal to the core game. I understand that different people are responsible for this stuff, but I think it has diluted the direction and focus of CCP from the top. -EVE card game. -EON magazine. -White Wolf -EVE TV -The fellow nerds the devs meet at gamer conventions -China server(I think this is a disctaction but it alone I cant actually fault CCP for as its still the core game.) -Resource intensive tournament that I dont have a prayer of ever entering as an average player. -CCPs development of human rendering software when Kali is way behind schedule and the part they have released is a mess. I think the guys at the top of CCP need to get back to focusing on the game. Most of the new content is still not worth using a month after Kalies release(and parts 2 and 3 are no where in sight) and the servers are working poorly. NOTE: I know this similar to another post I made, but instead of using sarcasm this time I used clear explainations. You might not agree but I think Im making a reasonable point. Wherever you went - here you are.
Rodge Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:26:00 - [2] sigh You do know there are different groups within CCP that are not game developers? -EVE card game. - Not dealt with by the devs -EON magazine. - Not dealt with by the devs -White Wolf - Nothing at all to do with the devs -EVE TV - A few make appearances on it, but the devs have nothing to do with it. -The fellow nerds the devs meet at gamer conventions - well, they do go to these. Takes a few days a year out of their hectic schedule to promote Eve. -China server(I think this is a disctaction but it alone I cant actually fault CCP for as its still the core game.) - well, only thing you've really mentioned that the devs may be involved with. -Resource intensive tournament that I dont have a prayer of ever entering as an average player. - nothing to do with the devs -CCPs development of human rendering software when Kali is way behind schedule and the part they have released is a mess. - eh? Sig inappropriate-not eve related -Abdalion [ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
ALPHA12125 Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:28:00 - [3] by your logic u want everyone in ccp working on performance. i dont want -accountants -writers -designers -kieron (sorry ) -or any other person that is not an programmer working on the eve-code. not everyone at ccp is capable of programming and even if they would 100 programmers cant fix 1 issue faster that 10 programmers, they can only fix more problems at the same time. and this is what ccp does focus on more problems the same time
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:29:00 - [4] Rodge beat me to it. Why these posts keep popping up just amazes me. Its as if some people think ccp is two guys, a dog and a computer in a shed in Iceland or something. A corporate merger with white wolf should indicate they are just a touch larger, but oh well. Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Gray Carmicheal Wings of Redemption	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:29:00 - [5] Another repost of a locked thread. IBTL. This Sig is Within Rules. :P
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2006.12.29 13:35:00 - [6] While CCP do have staff for one thing and more staff for another, givin how badly Kali was tested before release to us, The current state of the server as well as many issues just being ignored. I'd have to agree that by starting so many diffrent projects its my view that there in over there heads. They need to cut back, work out whats more important and focus on them first. But there in it for the money, that means... they will push forward with side projects gather as many bucks from everyone they can. CCP are fast turning into another yet smaller EA Games... Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to. Happy New Year..
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:00:00 - [7] Personally I have to agree with the OP and the last poster above me on this one.... The "money grubbing" efforts at CCP seem to be the ONLY thing getting priority or attention these days. Every patch in the last 6 to 8 months has made the game more and more unstable, and/or poorer and poorer performing for a greater and greater percentage of the community. And honestly, CCP has done NOTHING SIGNIFICANT about it, and shows no signs of doing anything about it either. I am really the last one to put out a statement as naked as "They don't CARE about the MMO community anymore." But, if all the evidence points to that conclusion how can you ignore it for long?? They seem so caught up in getting the new profit franchises off the ground (CCG, and PnP roleplaying) that they have completely left the MMO players that GOT them here in the first place out in the cold. They REALLY need to start showing the long-standing loyal MMO community some love, or it won't be there for them anymore. Of course, if you buy into conspiracies, that could be the whole point. I.E. The MMO finally bankrolled enough cash for them to get into other industries, which was their plan all along, and now they are just milking it into the ground. Not sure I buy into that one..... but its a thought.... and with much more complete lack of concern shown from CCP and the devs about current game killing problems, it might start to sound more and more attractive to me as a theory in the near future. Short and sweet of it: Start focusing MASSIVE amounts of your corporate energies on fixing the game rather than drumming up other questionable profit opportunities please CCP. P.S. And before someone rails on the fact that the people involved with the CCG, White Wolf, and Eon, etc. etc. have NOTHING to do with fixing the game, I know that. But, CCP is devoting many more of its overall RESOURCES (as in MONEY and the TIME of its executive officers) to side projects when its CORE product is in sad shape. This is NOT wise. It will kill the company if they let it go on for much longer. * *
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Ghoest -Resource intensive tournament that I dont have a prayer of ever entering as an average player. Realize, this is merely a formality to excuse why CCP is always giving the neatest toys to their BoB alts. Originally by: Ghoest -CCPs development of human rendering software when Kali is way behind schedule and the part they have released is a mess. Signed. Other than the new ships Kali is a complete bomb.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Sylthi Personally I have to agree with the OP and the last poster above me on this one.... The "money grubbing" efforts at CCP seem to be the ONLY thing getting priority or attention these days. Every patch in the last 6 to 8 months has made the game more and more unstable, and/or poorer and poorer performing for a greater and greater percentage of the community. And honestly, CCP has done NOTHING SIGNIFICANT about it, and shows no signs of doing anything about it either. I am really the last one to put out a statement as naked as "They don't CARE about the MMO community anymore." But, if all the evidence points to that conclusion how can you ignore it for long?? They seem so caught up in getting the new profit franchises off the ground (CCG, and PnP roleplaying) that they have completely left the MMO players that GOT them here in the first place out in the cold. They REALLY need to start showing the long-standing loyal MMO community some love, or it won't be there for them anymore. Of course, if you buy into conspiracies, that could be the whole point. I.E. The MMO finally bankrolled enough cash for them to get into other industries, which was their plan all along, and now they are just milking it into the ground. Not sure I buy into that one..... but its a thought.... and with much more complete lack of concern shown from CCP and the devs about current game killing problems, it might start to sound more and more attractive to me as a theory in the near future. Short and sweet of it: Start focusing MASSIVE amounts of your corporate energies on fixing the game rather than drumming up other questionable profit opportunities please CCP. P.S. And before someone rails on the fact that the people involved with the CCG, White Wolf, and Eon, etc. etc. have NOTHING to do with fixing the game, I know that. But, CCP is devoting many more of its overall RESOURCES (as in MONEY and the TIME of its executive officers) to side projects when its CORE product is in sad shape. This is NOT wise. It will kill the company if they let it go on for much longer. EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating.
Winters Chill Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Sylthi The "money grubbing" efforts at CCP seem to be the ONLY thing getting priority or attention these days. So they arn't allowed to make money are they? They arn't allowed to improve thier quality of life for themselves and thier families? A business does two things, grows or shrinks. Its very hard to tred water in business.

Peri Helion Amarr Omega Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Rodge sigh You do know there are different groups within CCP that are not game developers? I think the larger issues aren't the division of labor, but rather: - Core Competency - Marketing Strategy - Corporate Focus The core competency of a gaming company is just that, gaming. But does that mean a gaming company can be a good RPG, MMO, FPS, RTS, CCG and PnP gaming company? Sure, but you should at least master ONE of them first as a CORE COMPETENCY before you extend your brand into new arenas. Second, marketing strategy - Common saying here "You cant be all things to all people", so DONT try to be. Do NOT try to be a Magazine Publisher and CCG producer - it dilutes the brand focus. Additonally, until these product lines become self sufficient they are a DRAIN on the revenue generation of the primary product and result in DECREASED re-investment into it (expense dollars spent on human resources in those areas are expense dollars NOT SPENT on the core product). Corporate Focus - "Great organizations can do more than one thing well at a time" - Kennedy (I think?). Well, great organizations are few and far between. I do not know of many corporations that can successfully keep a workforce motivated on more than 1 "HOT" item at a time. Many corporations do keep mulitple initiatives going simultaneously, but in a corpartion as small as CCP this is usually done like a token ring network "who is the hot item this month?", which means time spent by the corporate branding/product strategists on that "hot issue" arent spending it on the others (a furhter dilution of effort). And those people NOT working on the hot item will often feel like second class employees and this leads to feelings like "project xxx always gets all the attention" or "why are we wasting our time and efforts on project yyy". I realize that the popular perception protrayed by CCP is that everyone loves their job there and everyone is just happy to be a part of the team, but that is simply not realistic. If you get more than 2 people together, there will be feelings of inequity that result in productivity hits. And multiple product lines in a company this small will lead to feelings of discontent no matter how "rosy" the picture is painted by the PR people. ________________________________ CCP, Invalidating the underlying assumptions that thousands of players have based their years of effort (and money) on.
ALPHA12125 Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Sylthi They REALLY need to start showing the long-standing loyal MMO community some love, or it won't be there for them anymore. the long standing mmo community is a myth. the average eve player stays something along the lines of 9 month in this game. that group is the biggest focus there has to be the average eve-player. also the hardcore player wont leave the game over lag or other smaller bugs as he is to addicted. (i am one of them ) what they do is trying to differentiate their income. lets just say ccp does a major ****up and makes a fix ala swg. all of a sudden 50% of the playerbase brakes away thus 50% of their income breaks away. suddenly even if they want to fix the game again they cant as their business is running bankrupt. with eve only having 50% of ccp's total income the loss in income is only 25%. its only a logic thing to do and will help ccp strenghten their financial ground.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Peri Helion Originally by: Rodge sigh You do know there are different groups within CCP that are not game developers? I think the larger issues aren't the division of labor, but rather: - Core Competency - Marketing Strategy - Corporate Focus The core competency of a gaming company is just that, gaming. But does that mean a gaming company can be a good RPG, MMO, FPS, RTS, CCG and PnP gaming company? Sure, but you should at least master ONE of them first as a CORE COMPETENCY before you extend your brand into new arenas. Second, marketing strategy - Common saying here "You cant be all things to all people", so DONT try to be. Do NOT try to be a Magazine Publisher and CCG producer - it dilutes the brand focus. Additonally, until these product lines become self sufficient they are a DRAIN on the revenue generation of the primary product and result in DECREASED re-investment into it (expense dollars spent on human resources in those areas are expense dollars NOT SPENT on the core product). Corporate Focus - "Great organizations can do more than one thing well at a time" - Kennedy (I think?). Well, great organizations are few and far between. I do not know of many corporations that can successfully keep a workforce motivated on more than 1 "HOT" item at a time. Many corporations do keep mulitple initiatives going simultaneously, but in a corpartion as small as CCP this is usually done like a token ring network "who is the hot item this month?", which means time spent by the corporate branding/product strategists on that "hot issue" arent spending it on the others (a furhter dilution of effort). And those people NOT working on the hot item will often feel like second class employees and this leads to feelings like "project xxx always gets all the attention" or "why are we wasting our time and efforts on project yyy". I realize that the popular perception protrayed by CCP is that everyone loves their job there and everyone is just happy to be a part of the team, but that is simply not realistic. If you get more than 2 people together, there will be feelings of inequity that result in productivity hits. And multiple product lines in a company this small will lead to feelings of discontent no matter how "rosy" the picture is painted by the PR people. Ehm, magazine is done by a publisher, not by CCP. CCG is done by peeps good at that sort of thing. And they are self sufficient AFAIK. CCP's has good management, and the one thing they do really well IMO, is outsourcing the stuff they can't do well internally, or hiring someone that can do it well. And seriously, the days that CCP was small are long gone.
Commander Solo Caldari Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:11:00 - [14] Another god damn whiner, do you have idea of the complexity of what CCP do on a daily basis? Granted the card game is a waste of time, but EON magazine and the tournament are things which bring the commuity together, therefore enhancing the gameplay experience. I also applaud CCP's devs for being so approchable and making themselves available for the fan fest, their actions should be commended. I think you summed it up with "I dont have a prayer" and "average player" Not to mention CCP are a business, not an internet charity for g33ks.
Cipher7	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:16:00 - [15] Originally by: ALPHA12125 by your logic u want everyone in ccp working on performance. -accountants -writers -designers -kieron (sorry ) -or any other person that is not an programmer Fire everybody. Hire coders. Problem solved. Wait...I guess we need 1 accountant...to write checks to the coders. And Kieron can stay. Actually the whole staff can stay, just tighten the code and fix the bugs and stop turning Eve into The Sims Online. We dont need animated map, we dont need vivox, we dont need in-station walking around. We need stable and lag free core game.
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:17:00 - [16] Edited by: Sylthi on 29/12/2006 14:19:13 Originally by: Gariuys EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating. You OBVIOUSLY do not get out much to read the problem/bug forums..... poor guy. I know, its not easy being that uninformed. Never fear... the forums and the petition (GMs ignore you) system will be there when you wake up and reality bites you in the butt by loosing a couple of expensive ships to lag. If you haven't ALREADY lost a couple to the lag then you obviously live a very sheltered Eve life... or stay in the right systems. Good on you!! Stay there, eveywhere else is in deep lagfest. * *
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:18:00 - [17] I bet the op is feeling pretty stupid right now Sig Nerf - Cortes I declare war on ISD! You don't stand a chance -Karl
Dario Wall Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:19:00 - [18] Edited by: Dario Wall on 29/12/2006 14:19:27 Originally by: Sylthi Originally by: Gariuys EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating. You OBVIOUSLY do not get out much to read the problem/bug forums..... poor guy. I know, its not easy being that uninformed. Never fear... the forums and the petition (GMs ignore you) system will be there when you wake up and reality bites you in the butt by loosing a couple of expensive ships to lag. If you haven't ALREADY lost a couple to the lag then you obviously live a very sheltered Eve life... or stay in the right systems. Good on you!! Stay there, eveywhere else is in deep lagfest. No, he's too busy actually PLAYING the game, instead of just sitting here reading what other people say on the forums.
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:21:00 - [19] Originally by: Dario Wall Edited by: Dario Wall on 29/12/2006 14:19:27 Originally by: Sylthi Originally by: Gariuys EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating. You OBVIOUSLY do not get out much to read the problem/bug forums..... poor guy. I know, its not easy being that uninformed. Never fear... the forums and the petition (GMs ignore you) system will be there when you wake up and reality bites you in the butt by loosing a couple of expensive ships to lag. If you haven't ALREADY lost a couple to the lag then you obviously live a very sheltered Eve life... or stay in the right systems. Good on you!! Stay there, eveywhere else is in deep lagfest. No, he's too busy actually PLAYING the game, instead of just sitting here reading what other people say on the forums. So, why are YOU here, exactly?..... * *
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:21:00 - [20] Originally by: Sylthi EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating. You OBVIOUSLY do not get out much to read the problem/bug forums..... poor guy. I know, its not easy being that uninformed. Never fear... the forums and the petition (GMs ignore you) system will be there when you wake up and reality bites you in the butt by loosing a couple of expensive ships to lag. If you haven't ALREADY lost a couple to the lag then you obviously live a very sheltered Eve life... or stay in the right systems. Good on you!! Stay there, eveywhere else is in deep lagfest. I do read the forums, fortunately for me that's the only place I ever hear of these problems, so yes I stay in the right systems apparently, even a couple with over a 100 peeps in em. And lag is always well withing acceptable parameters. And another fortunate thing for me is that every emergency petition of mine has been resolved in no time flat, while less pressing matters take a bit longer but are always handled well, then again.. my petitions don't read like the average somethingawful.com forum post. And I'm sure that I ever lost a ship to lag which is obviously CCP's fault ( the lag that is ), the situation would be resolved.

Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:26:00 - [21] Edited by: Sylthi on 29/12/2006 14:27:13 Originally by: Gariuys Originally by: Sylthi EVE is not in a sad shape. So there goes your whole point. Geez. Talk about over exagerrating. You OBVIOUSLY do not get out much to read the problem/bug forums..... poor guy. I know, its not easy being that uninformed. Never fear... the forums and the petition (GMs ignore you) system will be there when you wake up and reality bites you in the butt by loosing a couple of expensive ships to lag. If you haven't ALREADY lost a couple to the lag then you obviously live a very sheltered Eve life... or stay in the right systems. Good on you!! Stay there, eveywhere else is in deep lagfest. I do read the forums, fortunately for me that's the only place I ever hear of these problems, so yes I stay in the right systems apparently, even a couple with over a 100 peeps in em. And lag is always well withing acceptable parameters. And another fortunate thing for me is that every emergency petition of mine has been resolved in no time flat, while less pressing matters take a bit longer but are always handled well, then again.. my petitions don't read like the average somethingawful.com forum post. And I'm sure that I ever lost a ship to lag which is obviously CCP's fault ( the lag that is ), the situation would be resolved. So, you come out to the forums and read all of the time, like you say? GREAT!! You read about ALL of the massive numbers of people who are having problems with the game, like you say? GREAT!!! So, how is your original point about the game NOT being broken for those SAME people valid, exactly? * *
Allen Deckard Gallente LFC Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.29 14:46:00 - [22] not being sarcastic but what was so horrable about the last patch? Things I noticed was the how easy missions were probed out. (that was the big one) but then again within a few days it's been fixed or changed at a min. The mail bug thing goin on now. Well to be fair the OLD mail bug that has come back. Not really a game stopper for myself but a bit anoying. They adjusted the drop rate ect of the riggs but hey duno how many people are gonna salvage till they do. It was changed shortly there after. The skills required to use salvaging was changed a bit but geesh not like it killed anyones character or anything. Lag? Well, 30k+ people on one server. What do ya want. Only thing I hate is fleet battles but dont think I am alone there. It's more of a simple mathmatical thing if you ask me. Thats a crap load of little moving pixles that have to be predicted ect from around the world all converging then redistributed to your computer. Anyway yah there was a few little things wrong wont deny that but nothing to get melodramatic about. Any most thing have been fixed in what I would call short order. To be a bit sarcastic God knows no dev should ever be seen out from behind a computer screen like at a gamer convention they should be shackled to their chairs. China server? OMG someone else is enjoying eve besides me on my server? God forbid. Tournament? How horrable a (non developer) put together a tournament. I am right with ya on that. I wont ever be able to be in one. While their at it they can get rid of all capitol ships quit wasting time on those I dont use them. Oh and the eve forum it's non game related so dump on it. BTW if you never came to the forum and the devs just never said anything would you know that anything was behind scheduel? I havent a clue what windows has in store for it's next deployment. They dont tend to tell me much. Maybe ccp should just give a 6month late date of release then whenever they release something it will be early and everyone would be happy. Kentucky where the goats roam and the rednecks run free
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.29 15:14:00 - [23] EVE is not in a sad state: Linkage POS are fixed. Outposts got no bugs left. Sorting issues in various places in the client are fixed. UI issues as in the market history are fixed. Drone bugs are fixed. Autoaggro issues are fixed. Documentation is easy to find and up to date. Storyline events are happening all the time everywhere. Ancient storyline arcs are all in a finished state for their stage. Thukker Tribe standing and location issues are fixed. Contracts are working perfectly. Multihoming into multiple backbones is working. Devs are all back from installing Singularity. Multi-Screen feature has been finally fully implemented. Sound engine got its revamp that's been promised four years ago. Computer crashing bugs are all removed. Memleaks are resolved. The 2x2 devs working on the font issues finally solved these. UI got a design that is half way ergonomic now. Need more? At least we know that the devs are happily banging their chasts at meetings and gamecons all over the world and drinking like there's no tomorrow on those occasions they're allowed to leave Iceland. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
darklegionca Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.29 15:25:00 - [24] all i see in this thread is whine cry ***** moan jita jita whaaa..... do i really have to go on oh yes and reposting a locked thread is not cool go back to wow you emo kid you and yes thats my catch phrase ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend.
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.29 15:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Ghoest It used to be when the devs talked or CCP made a release it was almost something I was intrested in. Now a lot of attention seems to be elements periferal to the core game. I understand that different people are responsible for this stuff, but I think it has diluted the direction and focus of CCP from the top. -EVE card game. -EON magazine. -White Wolf -EVE TV -The fellow nerds the devs meet at gamer conventions -China server(I think this is a disctaction but it alone I cant actually fault CCP for as its still the core game.) -Resource intensive tournament that I dont have a prayer of ever entering as an average player. -CCPs development of human rendering software when Kali is way behind schedule and the part they have released is a mess. I think the guys at the top of CCP need to get back to focusing on the game. Most of the new content is still not worth using a month after Kalies release(and parts 2 and 3 are no where in sight) and the servers are working poorly. NOTE: I know this similar to another post I made, but instead of using sarcasm this time I used clear explainations. You might not agree but I think Im making a reasonable point. A quality company will find new and innovative ways to market or branch out it's product. Some will be a success and some will probably flop. At the end of the day things like EON magazine and EvE TV only serve to promote the game. I personally don't care for the magazine but I think it's safe to say theres more than a few people who have subscribed because of it. Gaming conventions? How else do the dev's get to stay in touch with the latest trends and technolgies. Where do you think all the exposure in gaming magazines and websites gets generated? A game maker can't just be nerds with their heads down coding 24/7. While people like the CEO step back and look at the big picture (stuff like the above), you can be sure the games producer is working his arse off to make sure he has enough quality programmers to look at the things that need looking at. I think you need to step back and stop being so myopic. Just because they don't interest "you" does not mean they aren't good for the game in the long run.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.29 16:27:00 - [26] If EVE Online was of the same quality as EON or the ccg, there'd not be much left to complain about. But sadly, EVE has a couple of issues ccp happily leaves unfixed for years. EVE TV doesn't help promoting EVE. If you're not already into the game it is totally none-interesting to watch. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Jaguar Dragon Blood Association of Dragons	Posted - 2006.12.29 16:58:00 - [27] i see others are now posting on what i have been posting for months. no one listened to me about the new content pre kali, on invention, the only realy new content to eve.new ships, mods, rigs, ammo, thats not new content, just new toys, i hope more players take note and post about the content that was given to us in dev blogs months ago, to what we recieved in kali. i believe the only reason salvage drop ,rig comps, was increaesd is cuz of so many complained. the only way to get ccp to take notice is to post and complain. how else is ccp to know what we players think. normally it's the silent majority that says nothing. well i see more and more speaking out on there DIS "add what ever here". personall i think the whole server took and turn for the down side when ccp went to china. nothing has been remotely good here since. you can't dispute this. the server has been crap, and i think it's getting worse and worse
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.29 17:15:00 - [28] Originally by: Ghoest It used to be when the devs talked or CCP made a release it was almost something I was intrested in. Now a lot of attention seems to be elements periferal to the core game. I understand that different people are responsible for this stuff, but I think it has diluted the direction and focus of CCP from the top. -EVE card game. -EON magazine. -White Wolf -EVE TV -The fellow nerds the devs meet at gamer conventions -China server(I think this is a disctaction but it alone I cant actually fault CCP for as its still the core game.) -Resource intensive tournament that I dont have a prayer of ever entering as an average player. -CCPs development of human rendering software when Kali is way behind schedule and the part they have released is a mess. I think the guys at the top of CCP need to get back to focusing on the game. Most of the new content is still not worth using a month after Kalies release(and parts 2 and 3 are no where in sight) and the servers are working poorly. NOTE: I know this similar to another post I made, but instead of using sarcasm this time I used clear explainations. You might not agree but I think Im making a reasonable point. You're so silly. I could list the counter argument, but a thousand people already have, and if I know this forum, another thousand now will. _ <Xyliana> Bob tempts school kids into the back of vans with candy
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.29 17:34:00 - [29] Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Ghoest [...] You're so silly. I could list the counter argument, but a thousand people already have, and if I know this forum, another thousand now will. Did you find the QA cell in your time in Reykjavik? What about the storyline cell for Minmatar Republic and Thukker Tribe? I am still pretty sure they're just a rumnour. The last couple of changes and additions in EVE look and feel like minimalsitic tech hacks to show that there might be something that could be developed if someone wanted to spend the time on it. Happy eggnogg season to the EVE TV team. (Didn't you post that you're dropping google ads for isk sellers like two months ago? Or was it your beautiful but shy producer Xyliana?) --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.29 17:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Jaguar Dragon [...] spiralJunkie is a member of the EVETV-team and a DJ at eve-radio. It isn't a job, you know. (That doesn't change the fact that many veterans left the game after having their subs active for multiple years, mostly for feeling let down badly by ccp. Hot air and promises just don't fix bugs nor do they help advance the frozen background and ingame storylines.) --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20



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