So apparently CCP has decided to just stop using the Features & Ideas Discussion portion of the forums.. This used to be where we talked about stuff like this.

So I'm not very impressed with the "Fighter Squadrons." It looks to me as though CCP is trying to nerf the damage of carriers, which have already been nerfed once this year. (See changes to Drone Damage Amplifiers)
The positioning of fighters in space is somewhat nice. (something to do while you are waiting for lock)
Light Fighters - Anti-Fighter Fighters? This looks like a waste to me.

Dreads are getting an anti sub-capital weapon system (which takes place of the role of combat carriers) and the carriers are getting fighters that are designed to take out structures and other capitals (which isn't that what the dread was intended to do?) while at the same time taking away the carriers ability to defend itself from smaller targets. (which current fighters are AMAZING for killing T3s, HACs, HICs, etc.)

There are also some other questions unanswered. What happens to Drone Control Units and the Advanced Drone Interfacing skill?


Personally I feel that leaving fighters alone and just rebalancing carriers from triage to weapons platforms would be a good step, and that stats could be monitored from there and other changed made as needed... though if you are intent to go through with the fighter changed. why no go with..
Brawling Fighters - Same as current fighters
Ewar Fighters - Fighter Version of the Small/Med/Large Ewar drones
Torpedo Fighters - Same as the Heavy Fighters proposed

So apparently CCP has decided to just stop using the Features & Ideas Discussion portion of the forums.. This used to be where we talked about stuff like this.

2. its not a nerf since there are no definite numbers so thats bull, even with or without modules for all you know they could have insane damage.
Light fighters are for subcaps for damage, and have diffrent abilities in terms heavy's or support

3. they give a half broken wooden stick so they have something to defend themselves with, Again no numbers, light fighters might do tons of damage.

Looks a little like CCP is trying to get carrier fighter gameplay a little more into World of Warships Carrier micro management. I like that.
Every step we go further away from targeting and pressing F1 is a good step.

I also like that logistics will get a dedicated capital.

--Did I understand correctly that a ship can only receive repair by a single triage capital ?
Forget that. I think i got it wrong.

So apparently CCP has decided to just stop using the Features & Ideas Discussion portion of the forums.. This used to be where we talked about stuff like this.

Opposite, Capital logi will need to use triage to able to use remote repairer, thus limit its tank to local only.

What it mean, that your fleet don't need to be big enough to alpha capital off grid, just have enough dps to break local tank of capital logi.

So apparently CCP has decided to just stop using the Features & Ideas Discussion portion of the forums.. This used to be where we talked about stuff like this.

So I'm not very impressed with the "Fighter Squadrons." It looks to me as though CCP is trying to nerf the damage of carriers, which have already been nerfed once this year. (See changes to Drone Damage Amplifiers)
The positioning of fighters in space is somewhat nice. (something to do while you are waiting for lock)
Light Fighters - Anti-Fighter Fighters? This looks like a waste to me.

Dreads are getting an anti sub-capital weapon system (which takes place of the role of combat carriers) and the carriers are getting fighters that are designed to take out structures and other capitals (which isn't that what the dread was intended to do?) while at the same time taking away the carriers ability to defend itself from smaller targets. (which current fighters are AMAZING for killing T3s, HACs, HICs, etc.)

There are also some other questions unanswered. What happens to Drone Control Units and the Advanced Drone Interfacing skill?


Personally I feel that leaving fighters alone and just rebalancing carriers from triage to weapons platforms would be a good step, and that stats could be monitored from there and other changed made as needed... though if you are intent to go through with the fighter changed. why no go with..
Brawling Fighters - Same as current fighters
Ewar Fighters - Fighter Version of the Small/Med/Large Ewar drones
Torpedo Fighters - Same as the Heavy Fighters proposed

I demand that the Chimera gets a huge fighter tracking bonus for the lack of lowslots.

The biggest plus is that capitals will no longer be viable for ratting. Their damage will be ineffective against npc subcaps.

I wish they'd address the Chimera's cap issues along with its lack of low slots when they talked about carrier rebalancing. It is the least desirable carrier for anything but POS repping. That isn't a good thing.

Could you have meant the nidhoggur? The Chimera is to shield capital fleets like archons are to armor. When you have a fleet set up with remote capacitor modules, capacitor isn't an issue.

All carriers have the same capacitor regen.

The nidhoggur has the smallest base capacitor but the shortest duration to fully refill.

The nidhoggur has no place in slow cat fleets, armor or shield. It doesn't have a damage bonus to make up for the lack of resists. All it can do is suicide triage or POS rep.

If you are using a Chimera to rep a POS's armor, you are doing it wrong. The shields will regen naturally, requiring only armor reps and a little structure rep.

The Chimera's cap battery isn't even big enough to rep ONE target and itself at the same time while triaged, even with CCC rigs and a mostly cap mods. The entire reason fleet's field unified armor, and leave shield out entirely, is because Archon's are exponentially better than Chimeras. They're Amarr, so their cap batteries are massive, and they get all the remote rep goodies that pantheon carriers are supposed to have. They can rep themselves and other ships without capping out while in triage mode no problem. At least the Nidhogger has the option of going armor and finding a place in an armor cap fleet. The Chimera is doomed to shield only and doesn't have the capacitor necessary to perform its duties. Doesn't help that capacitor power relays murder your local tank, which is another blow to the triage Chimera.

Eeeeerrrrr... Why are you guys whining about the cap...? All that is going to be transfered to the new capital logies, so... That should definitely not be a concern anymore?

It's the forum. You can't expect people to stop whining about stuff just because it will become irrelevant...

only that my faction large smart bomb will get replaced with a capital one.