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Running Mayweather
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.26 06:14:15 -
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Hello i am a new player looking for some fits that are best for using bantam for exploration. any help is appreciated. |
Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
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Posted - 2015.10.26 07:06:42 -
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Hey there,
So to begin with, the Bantam is NOT the ship that you want to be using for explo, the Heron is the Caldari version of the exploration ship as it has a massive cargo hold (For a frigate) and has bonuses to virus strength and attributes. As for fitting, it depends on where you are doing it! Once you hav the money, upgrade the probes to Sisters core scanner probes, and other sisters equiptment, and get your hacking and archeology skills up!
For highsec, I would do something like this:
HIGHS:
Probe launcher with 8 core scanner probes
MIDS:
Data analyzer
Relic Analyzer
MWD or AB
Scan Rangefinding Array
Cargo Scanner if you want to see if a can is worth hacking
LOW:
CPU or PWG upgrades if you need them, if not, maybe propulsion or cargo upgrades
RIGS:
As many small gravity capacitors as you can fit
For lowsec, need to be more cautious:
HIGHS:
Probe launcher with 8 core scanner probes
Prototype cloaking device
MIDS:
Data analyzer
Relic Analyzer
MWD or AB
Scan Rangefinding Array
Cargo Scanner if you want to see if a can is worth hacking
LOW:
1 or 2 Warp core stabilizers
RIGS:
As many small gravity capacitors as you can fit
For nullsec, I would say wait for a covops, but if you find an entrance that isnt camped, then you could use the lowsec layout.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn
Resonance.
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Posted - 2015.10.26 07:08:55 -
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Why do you specifically want to use a bantam for exploration? The heron has scanning and hacking bonuses and is much better suited for this task.
Edit: Netan beat me to it, and has a much more detailled answer. |
Running Mayweather
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.26 07:59:03 -
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Im using the heron i didnt know that you get the heron fairly quick from the career missions . |
Running Mayweather
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.26 08:14:02 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Hey there,
So to begin with, the Bantam is NOT the ship that you want to be using for explo, the Heron is the Caldari version of the exploration ship as it has a massive cargo hold (For a frigate) and has bonuses to virus strength and attributes. As for fitting, it depends on where you are doing it! Once you hav the money, upgrade the probes to Sisters core scanner probes, and other sisters equiptment, and get your hacking and archeology skills up!
For highsec, I would do something like this:
HIGHS:
Probe launcher with 8 core scanner probes
MIDS:
Data analyzer
Relic Analyzer
MWD or AB
Scan Rangefinding Array
Cargo Scanner if you want to see if a can is worth hacking
LOW:
CPU or PWG upgrades if you need them, if not, maybe propulsion or cargo upgrades
RIGS:
As many small gravity capacitors as you can fit
For lowsec, need to be more cautious:
HIGHS:
Probe launcher with 8 core scanner probes
Prototype cloaking device
MIDS:
Data analyzer
Relic Analyzer
MWD or AB
Scan Rangefinding Array
Cargo Scanner if you want to see if a can is worth hacking
LOW:
1 or 2 Warp core stabilizers
RIGS:
As many small gravity capacitors as you can fit
For nullsec, I would say wait for a covops, but if you find an entrance that isnt camped, then you could use the lowsec layout.
What is MWD and AB ?
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Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.10.26 10:26:10 -
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Running Mayweather wrote:Also is there any missions explorers can do or do you just scan for stuff and hack it ?
You scan scan scan my friend. No missions for explorers. Also, once you attain good combat skills and a ship to go with it (one that can equip both a probe launcher and pack enough DPS/tank as well) you can run the combat sites you find through explo for some very good loot and bounties, if you so wish. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.10.26 12:38:07 -
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For the sites that require combat, typically you scan / probe for the site, and once found you right-click and bookmark it. Then switch to an appropriate combat ship and go to the bookmark. |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
147
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Posted - 2015.10.27 00:09:46 -
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highsec explorations can be done even in gnosis highsec data and relic sites are easy to hack in unbonused ship but has nice bonus to scan strenght of probes, astero and stratios also does have same bonus as gnosis but just extra bonus for data/relic analyzers andcan fit covert ops cloak.
exploration gnosis low-cost version
high slot
expander probe launcher + 32 core scanner probes + 16 combat scanner probes
weapons optiona if you can fit medium sized weapons fit them and load with ammo, also buy sare ammo and store in cargo
med slots
data analyzer l
relic analyzer l
10mn afterburner
scan rangefinding array
meta 4 cap rechargers x 2
low slots
3 x energized adaptive nanomembrane meta4 if can
1 damage control meta4 if can
1 medium ancillary armor repairer + nanite repair paste
1 capacitor power relay
rig slots
medium gravity capacitor upgrade x 2
drones 5x salvage drone
10x hopgoblin
this gnosis will be able to do highsec anomaly sites sush hidden hideaways, dens, refuges.
advanced gnosis highsec medium priced that one i am using fit things that you can/able to use
high slots
1x sisters core scanner probe and 32 sister core scanner probes
5 x heavy modulated energy beam + 5 medium gamma, in cargo 5x m multifrquency and 5x m standard
med slots
3x cap recharger ((
10mn afterburner II
medium micro jump drive
relic analyzer II
low slots
corpium A medium armor repairer
3x energized adaptive nanomembrane II
1x damage control II
1x corpium A adaptive nanoplating
rigs
2x medium gravity capacitor upgrade
drones
5x augmented hopgoblin
5x augmented acolyte
5x salvage drone
that gnosis can do deadspace 4/10 sites and unrated 4/10sites didnt put on it data analzer because most god things are in relic sites anyway highsec data/relic sites don pay very well especially data sites. sometimes they are good, sometimes not that is still dice roll |
Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
125
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Posted - 2015.10.27 00:31:15 -
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Amak Boma wrote:
high slot
expander probe launcher + 32 core scanner probes + 16 combat scanner probes
high slots
1x sisters core scanner probe and 32 sister core scanner probes
Just WHY do you have 32 scanner probes??? Especially 32 sister probes, that will be insanely expensive for the new bro. Hell, even I wont buy that many.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
303
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Posted - 2015.10.27 07:47:14 -
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Amak Boma wrote:highsec explorations can be done even in gnosis highsec data and relic sites are easy to hack in unbonused ship but has nice bonus to scan strenght of probes, astero and stratios also does have same bonus as gnosis but just extra bonus for data/relic analyzers andcan fit covert ops cloak.
exploration gnosis low-cost version
high slot
expander probe launcher + 32 core scanner probes + 16 combat scanner probes
weapons optiona if you can fit medium sized weapons fit them and load with ammo, also buy sare ammo and store in cargo
med slots
data analyzer l
relic analyzer l
10mn afterburner
scan rangefinding array
meta 4 cap rechargers x 2
low slots
3 x energized adaptive nanomembrane meta4 if can
1 damage control meta4 if can
1 medium ancillary armor repairer + nanite repair paste
1 capacitor power relay
rig slots
medium gravity capacitor upgrade x 2
drones 5x salvage drone
10x hopgoblin
this gnosis will be able to do highsec anomaly sites sush hidden hideaways, dens, refuges.
advanced gnosis highsec medium priced that one i am using fit things that you can/able to use
high slots
1x sisters core scanner probe and 32 sister core scanner probes
5 x heavy modulated energy beam + 5 medium gamma, in cargo 5x m multifrquency and 5x m standard
med slots
3x cap recharger ((
10mn afterburner II
medium micro jump drive
relic analyzer II
low slots
corpium A medium armor repairer
3x energized adaptive nanomembrane II
1x damage control II
1x corpium A adaptive nanoplating
rigs
2x medium gravity capacitor upgrade
drones
5x augmented hopgoblin
5x augmented acolyte
5x salvage drone
that gnosis can do deadspace 4/10 sites and unrated 4/10sites didnt put on it data analzer because most god things are in relic sites anyway highsec data/relic sites don pay very well especially data sites. sometimes they are good, sometimes not that is still dice roll
There's a whole lot of wrong in what you stated there, OP would do well to simply ignore it all. |
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
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Posted - 2015.10.27 08:36:52 -
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To add some content:
- you're best off to focus on Data only, relic tends to not pay as well and takes up way more cargo space forcing you back home more often. And the time you waste on doing an, on average, crap relic site is time you didn't use to find or complete a data site
- in high sec data/relic isn't really going to pay too well on average, combat exploration would do better there so if you see being in high sec just as a first stepping stone before you move to more interesting/risky areas then that's fine. If you truly want to stick to high sec you're probably better off focussing on combat exploration
- get a cloak even in high sec, you're in a frigate with valuables onboard which tends to make you a gank target. Because of that get in to the habit of jumping into a new system, warping to some planet at a random range while dropping probes as you align to warp, and once you arrived you'll cloak up. It's what you'll also do in low or 0.0/WH so might as well get used to it right away. Also learn to use the cloak/mwd trick
- no reason to use an expanded probe launcher as that is only useful for "pvp purposes", don't waste money on sister launchers or probes, being new you're probably going to mess up a fair amount of times so no need to make them costly mistakes. Also they're not worth the investment until you have so much cash you wouldn't even notice missing 50m
- don't waste your rig slots on grav rigs, you can achieve increased scanning strength with modules these days so your rigs are better used to augment your hacking
Here's a basic data Heron fit:
[Heron, Data explorer]
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Data Analyzer I
Cargo Scanner I
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Salvager I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
[empty rig slot]
The only T2 item you really want for now is the T2 cloak (requires cloaking lvl 3), the rest you'll build up as you go. |
Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:17:04 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:To add some content:
- you're best off to focus on Data only, relic tends to not pay as well and takes up way more cargo space forcing you back home more often. And the time you waste on doing an, on average, crap relic site is time you didn't use to find or complete a data site
Respectfully, you've got that exactly backwards, although CCP is actively working to fix the issue and to balance the value between data and relic sites (see this thread). Personally, I always run every site I find regardless.
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
304
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:41:16 -
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Thierry Orlenard wrote:Tiberius Heth wrote:To add some content:
- you're best off to focus on Data only, relic tends to not pay as well and takes up way more cargo space forcing you back home more often. And the time you waste on doing an, on average, crap relic site is time you didn't use to find or complete a data site Respectfully, you've got that exactly backwards, although CCP is actively working to fix the issue and to balance the value between data and relic sites (see this thread). Personally, I always run every site I find regardless.
I was my understanding that for high sec specifically data now outperforms relic, I'm not talking about low chance "super drops" but rather realistic isk/h wise. Then again I never bothered to test it first hand (I do combat exploration) so it is 3rd party "hearsay". I did kinda forget about the other changes and their impact.
So which to choose it up for grabs perhaps but I'd still choose either, not both, because of the extra slots you'll have to use, which then results in having to use grav rigs which thus means you lose the hacking ones. |
Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:45:27 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:Thierry Orlenard wrote:Tiberius Heth wrote:To add some content:
- you're best off to focus on Data only, relic tends to not pay as well and takes up way more cargo space forcing you back home more often. And the time you waste on doing an, on average, crap relic site is time you didn't use to find or complete a data site Respectfully, you've got that exactly backwards, although CCP is actively working to fix the issue and to balance the value between data and relic sites (see this thread). Personally, I always run every site I find regardless. I was my understanding that for high sec specifically data now outperforms relic, I'm not talking about low chance "super drops" but rather realistic isk/h wise. Then again I never bothered to test it first hand (I do combat exploration) so it is 3rd party "hearsay".
I have a lower-level alt in high sec. As I said, I do run them all for the off chance of great luck and to just clear out systems for respawns -- but I still get a ton of Positron Cords, High-Tech Scanners and the like from data sites.  |
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